Unveiling our deep thoughts on ‘Next Flight’ jerseys and new Baltimore Ravens brand markings

Sports fashion is always subjective and Luke Jones and Nestor usually have strong opinions on weak ownership and league cash grabs whenever teams role out a “new look” with alternate jerseys, helmets and colors. This time, however, both agreed they were mostly pleasantly underwhelmed about the over-hyped “Next Flight” branding of the new Baltimore Ravens’ markings. Subtle, and fine…

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ new jerseys and branding. They attended the unveiling at Merriweather Post Pavilion, where they met various local figures and enjoyed the event. Nestor expressed concerns about the subtle changes, particularly the elimination of gold trim on numbers and the matte black helmet. Luke noted the new purple helmet with the regular logo as a significant upgrade. They compared the new design to past uniforms and other teams’ jerseys, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the Ravens’ identity. Both agreed the changes were minimal and generally positive.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Arrange for one of the Maryland Treasures scratch-off ticket artists to appear on the Baltimore Positive show to discuss the artwork.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Cover and share social media updates during the GBMC ‘Walk a Mile in Their Shoes’ fundraising event on Friday.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the Baltimore Positive live shows at the scheduled locations: Koco’s Pub on Thursday before the draft, Pizza Johnson’s on May 1, Planet Fitness in Timonium on May 7, and the Lexington Market/Fayettely’s Crab Races on May 13.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Conduct an interview with Todd Radom about logo and jersey design, including his critique of the Titans using the Oilers logo.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Prepare and air a Baltimore Positive segment next week focused on NFL draft rumors and the ‘liars luncheon’.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Visit the soon-to-open Fishmonger’s Daughter restaurant in Catonsville this week for a sneak preview.

Maryland Crab Cake Tour and Community Engagement

• Nestor Aparicio discusses the Maryland crab cake tour, mentioning various locations and events, including Costas, Koco’s Pub, Pizza John’s, and Planet Fitness.
• Nestor highlights his interactions with local community figures, such as Drew Vanlandingham from the Brigants Brigade, Baltimore County Executive candidate Pat Dyer, and Carson Kamenetz, son of Kevin Kamenetz.
• Nestor mentions his involvement with the Maryland Lottery, GBMC, and Farnham and Dermer, emphasizing the importance of community support and events.
• Nestor shares his excitement about upcoming events, including the Maryland crab cake tour, crab races at Lexington Market, and the opening of the Fishmonger’s Daughter in Catonsville.

Ravens Uniform Unveiling at Merriweather Post Pavilion

• Nestor Aparicio recounts the Ravens uniform unveiling event at Merriweather Post Pavilion, expressing surprise at the choice of location.
• Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the subtle changes in the new uniforms, with Nestor expressing a muted reaction to the changes.
• Nestor mentions the presence of Ravens legends at the event, which added to the excitement.
• Luke Jones agrees with Nestor, noting that the event was well-received and that the new uniforms are not drastically different from the old ones.

Concerns and Reactions to the New Uniforms

• Nestor and Luke discuss their initial concerns about the new uniforms, with Nestor expressing relief that the changes were not drastic.
• Nestor mentions the importance of maintaining the Ravens’ identity and avoiding overly flashy or gimmicky designs.
• Luke notes that the new uniforms are a slight downgrade from the old ones, particularly due to the elimination of gold trim on the numbers.
• Nestor and Luke agree that the biggest upgrade is the return of the regular logo on the purple helmet, which they both prefer over the matte black helmet.

Historical Context and Personal Preferences

• Nestor shares his personal history with the Ravens’ uniforms, including his interactions with David Modell and his preferences for certain designs.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of maintaining the Ravens’ traditional look, with Nestor emphasizing the need for the uniforms to reflect the team’s tough, black-and-purple identity.
• Nestor mentions the significance of the purple sheen that appears on the uniforms when players sweat, which he believes is a key element of the Ravens’ look.
• Luke and Nestor agree that the new uniforms are a slight downgrade but are generally acceptable, with the biggest issue being the lack of gold trim.

Comparisons to Other Teams’ Uniforms

• Nestor and Luke compare the Ravens’ new uniforms to those of other teams, such as the Atlanta Falcons, Washington Commanders, and New England Patriots.
• Nestor expresses his dislike for the current designs of teams like the Falcons and Commanders, which he believes look like pajamas or JUCO team uniforms.
• Luke notes that the Ravens’ new uniforms are not as bad as some of the more extreme designs he has seen on other teams.
• Nestor and Luke agree that the Ravens’ new uniforms are a step in the right direction, despite their minor flaws.

Final Thoughts and Future Plans

• Nestor and Luke wrap up their discussion on the Ravens’ new uniforms, expressing overall satisfaction with the changes.
• Nestor mentions his upcoming events and appearances, including the Maryland crab cake tour, crab races at Lexington Market, and the opening of the Fishmonger’s Daughter.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of community engagement and the role of local businesses in supporting events and initiatives.
• Nestor concludes the segment by emphasizing the importance of maintaining the Ravens’ identity and the team’s connection to the community.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Baltimore Ravens, Next Flight jerseys, branding, Maryland crab cake tour, Merriweather Post Pavilion, uniform changes, gold trim, purple helmet, black helmet, jersey design, Steve Bisciotti, Nike, football logos, community events, Baltimore sports.

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SPEAKERS

Speaker 1, Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones

Speaker 1  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, am 1570

Nestor Aparicio  00:05

Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positive to get the Maryland crab cake tour back out on the row. We were at Costas all day. On Thursday. Had some great conversations. I was really nice to actually meet drew Vanlandingham from the brigants brigade. I met Baltimore County Executive candidate, Pat Dyer, Republican. I actually met him in an Italian associated charities couple months ago. He came out and spent an hour with us. Carson Kamenetz, son of Kevin Kamenetz, who’s running for fourth district county council. He joined us, and I was joined by Chris Corman from the Baltimore banner sports editor. They just acquired the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, also moving into the Washington area. So we had a little chat about journalism and access and different things like that. All are brought to my friends at the Maryland lottery. These are very popular tickets. These are the new Maryland treasures. They’re an art I’m hoping to have one of the artists on as well, also our friends at GBMC, I am walking a mile in their shoes on Friday. I would hope that you go up to gbmc.org, and check that out, because, very good cause it’s gonna be very beautiful afternoon to take a walk. I’ll be on social media having a good time with that. And of course, our friends at Farnham and Durham are who are our comfort guys keeping us comfortable here as the weather gets to 90 degrees. Just a reminder, it was hot as hell on Wednesday and Thursday. Don’t let your AC bust call them. They’re the comfort guys, Farnan and Dermer and Luke. We are doing the show next Thursday at Koco’s Pub. I’ve wore my Koco’s shirt. We are doing the show on May 1 at Pizza Johnson. You’re wearing the pizza John’s hat. And we’re doing the show on May 7 at Planet Fitness, and I get to get my Times Square hat out. It doesn’t look as good on the video, but it’ll look great when we’re playing a fitness doing it. We’ll be there on the seventh that’ll be in Timonium, and I have a special crab cake I’m doing that day. My buddy, Dennis O’Donovan from profit com, my AI buddy, is going to come by. And then on May 13, we will be doing the crab races at Lexington market with Ivan Bates, that is it, fadeleys on the 13th. And reminder to everyone who loves fadeleys Or has ever loved fadeleys or Lexington market, or loves Nancy or bill or Dame or any of the family Eve, anybody they’re opening the fishmonger’s daughter. I’m hearing it’s about a week away. I’m getting a sneak peek this weekend, so I’m looking forward to that. I’m also going to go rock out, let my hair out. I let my hair out in the last segment with Pete at Koco’s The other day, I got my rock and roll hairs going, and somebody thought that I cut my hair because I put it under my hat when I went to the Oreo game. So Luke, as much as you think, people don’t care whether I shave or whether my goatee looks like Getty Lee this week or it looks a little funky monkey. People notice things. And there were, I don’t know, a couple six, 8000 people that gathered down at merweather Post pavilion. I had no idea they were doing it at Merriweather Post pavilion ever since Chad took me off the PR sheet. I don’t get any of their sheet. And literally, in the middle of the afternoon, somebody offered tickets on Facebook. Hey, I have four tickets at Merriweather tonight for the Ravens unveiling. And I’m like, Are they doing this in different location? Why wouldn’t they use their own stadium? Why wouldn’t they use their own club level for their PSL holders? I don’t know. Maybe there’s a partnership with imp that’s cool. Whatever you know, whatever they I like Merriweather a lot, and Merryweather on an 80 Degree night is even better. And having all the legends that I looked at, all the pictures, I’m like, he’s in my phone, he’s in my phone, he’s in my phone. I talked to him last week. I talked to him two weeks. So when they bring the legends in, I like that too, because that speaks to me. But I don’t know that this uniform things for me or you. I’m not people thought I was defecating upon it. I just don’t think, I think it’s very subtle. I think it was a, it was a nothing burger, like you and I did more time on it last week than we’re going to do right now, because it really isn’t all that different, and it’s not all that alarming, and it’s not all that anything. The Baltimore thing, Joe Enoch was all excited about that. That’s only 30 years late, but I don’t, I don’t know they’re, they look pretty much the same, and they’re looking more they’re more boring than they are exciting. I think,

Luke Jones  04:07

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yeah, you know what it’s I think I agree with you look. I think the event coinciding with having Jesse minstor for a Q A and Declan Doyle and Anthony Weaver and Anthony Levine, I think that ended up being a nice little event. You know, from I don’t, I can’t say I know too many people that went like in my own individual space, but it seemed like people had fun. It was a beautiful night, as you mentioned, and when a lot of

Nestor Aparicio  04:34

kids, it was a nice thing. Yeah, you have

Luke Jones  04:36

a brand new coaching staff there. I think it lend itself to be a good event. If John herbaugh, herbaugh were still the head coach and Todd moncken Were still the OC and Zach or we’re still the defensive coordinator, then that events probably a little more and the uniforms don’t look that terribly different. I’ll say this first of all exhale, because, as you know, I was nervous about this. I was uneasy about this. I did say to you the other day, I had spoken to someone that had seen them, and that person had assured me, like, this isn’t dramatic.

Nestor Aparicio  05:07

Steve bishati is, by His very nature, all trumped up and very Republican and very conservative and very we’re not going to make big move, you know, like, so I didn’t think he was going to let them turn this into pajamas, like, and because Sashi wanted to make money. I mean, like, I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

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Luke Jones  05:24

I mean, let’s face it, every uniform changes about selling jerseys. Teams won’t say that, but that’s the truth. Yeah, and I don’t

Nestor Aparicio  05:30

want to buy this one. I don’t think it necessarily looks better than the other ones. And that would speak to you, and me yelling about it last week at lights in the market, in regard to me wearing a 1979 jersey, because I just like that better, and I don’t really feel like spending $200 on B move. Dollar on be more, because Melanie Newman tells me to go do it. I mean, like, that’s just not

Luke Jones  05:47

much fun. And some look, I think younger people are really excited about this. As I said to you, the city connects. Seem to really resonate with some of the younger generations, and probably not as well with some of the older generations that, frankly, are like you and me, and I like throwbacks way more than like these. You know, new concepts, but they’re fine, and that’s a good thing, and that’s a compliment. And I know that Sashi Brown when he was when he spoke and was talking about these on Thursday night, it sounds like Nike had sent them uniforms a year ago, you know, with the idea, you know, because they started this process back in 2023 and they said no on them. So I’m guessing those were probably more of what I was fearful of, which was, don’t become the Oregon Ducks in the NFL. Anytime you have a bird as your team name that’s feathers and wings and feathers and wings, as we’ve seen with the Oregon Ducks. And hey, Oregon leans into it. It’s their thing. That can become really obnoxious. What I like with uniform.

Nestor Aparicio  06:55

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You know what? Man, I just I am such a huge fan of this, and I’m having Todd rate him on and you and I geek out about it, but I love logos, right? And so I mean five feet away from where I broadcast, I literally look at these different logos and these different helmets. I’m going to pull a couple of them up for you, because I just, I think that this, this will be somewhat helpful in me explaining how I feel about it. This was the Atlanta Falcons logo. They did a lot of losing. This is from 1971 it’s a belt buckle. It’s a kid’s belt buckle. I collect these. It’s one of my weird collections. So this thing got screwed up by Jerry Glanville 100 years ago, back when Rankin Smith still own the team, and when I see them run around now, they look like a JUCO team, like if they don’t need to look like Tommy nobis or even Michael Vick or Chris Chandler, but what they’re running around that in now looks like pajamas, and when Kirk Cousins is running around in it, I feel that way about the commanders, because they don’t look like the Redskins, or whatever you would want that.

Luke Jones  08:03

Did you see they just switched they

Nestor Aparicio  08:04

put an arrow in there, in there

Luke Jones  08:07

for their all in their black helmet. But they’re regular, like they’re what you would consider to be their regular home. In a ways, they look like the Redskins look.

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Nestor Aparicio  08:14

The Patriots got out of whack back when John Ogden and Ray Lewis were wearing the Mean machine the 9697 looked that was very David Modell futuristic, which I think is kind of uglier in the general sense of being a throwback that you know, I fell in love with Ray Lewis in 1996 in the summer, and wearing that jersey and doing the train and hanging out at the bar, I can still smell the crabs, but the Patriots, if you go look at those Drew Bledsoe pajamas that they wore in the Super Bowl against Brett Favre, and think about Tom Brady and them, sort of bringing it in with the silver and Tom Brady’s now iconic. But when Tom Brady put on Patriot Pat, he looked better. So the Jets, I could pull the Jets logo up, but they went through the the the ugly, you know, losing Joe Gaston or Gastineau, Mark Gaston, oh, Joe Klecko, where they wore the Jets side of the thing, but the Joe Namath look and the stripes and the Maynard like that, to me, that’s still what they should look like, the San Diego Chargers. You know that this was more of the second helmet. This was more like not the baby blue. This was more of a Dan Fouts look. But they’ve gone through this. And the Eagles is the other team I would equate with the Falcons, because you mentioned birds and how they screwed it up. Boy, the Eagles have gone through a couple of them through the Terrell Owens era, and then they win the Super Bowl that, like none of it looks better than Bill Bergy and Harold Carmichael and Ron Jaworski, or even like Randall Cunningham when they tweaked it a little bit. But the modern birds that whatever teams and I’m going to get on rate him about this f these two hits up especially. The Falcons. I’m thinking to myself, that’s what my nightmare was. Is there’s going to be some mishmash of David modell’s worst nightmare in 96 and the Nike thing, and alternate this and purple that, and Lamar is going to come out looking like a bat and and like, just all like, that’s possible, because I’ve seen them screw up other teams. And look, this guy doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing, blank, right, like, in a general sense, so and he all, they’re all thinking they want to be young and sexy and cool. I mean, I don’t give Steve a whole lot of credit for much, because, you know, he’s Steve, and I’m me, and I’ve lived with Steve. I mean, I know Steve. He’s been in my home, so I don’t, but he’s really conservative, and I think he would lean toward we’re not making a big move on this, no matter how much Nike wants to shove it down our throat of the league. And Steve hates the league. I mean, Steve hates the league. He hates the corporate part of that. So that’s why he doesn’t show up at the owners meetings. Is why he’s not a part of the board. That’s why he’s not going to the Hall of Fame by his own admission. So for me, I, I’m, I’m really okay with it being a very muted conversation about how it’s been very subtle, and they’re going to look like the ravens, and it’s going to look a little more purple, one way or another, like the Fruit of the Loom grape. You know, whatever you wherever you want, my planet fitness purple, right? Like I I just don’t want them looking like pajamas and looking like no offense to my Padres or your Astros, but just they’ve got 50 pairs of pajamas like the NBA teams do, and I don’t think Steve wanted that. So that there’s my endorsement for Steve bishati in some way.

Luke Jones  11:36

Yeah, I think when you look at this, a few things stood out for me. I would say this and hang with me on this. For anyone listening,

Nestor Aparicio  11:45

I do drink coffee.

Luke Jones  11:46

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Is that right? Not do that? I do find it to be a very slight downgrade, and I’ll tell you why. But that said, if their uniforms were an A minus before like, this is a b plus or a B like, it’s not going from an a uniform to a D uniform. I do think I’m not a fan of eliminating the gold trim in the numbers that they did for the home in the away, because, and you said 1,000,000%

Nestor Aparicio  12:10

the thing I noticed is they pulled the gold out, which makes it more boring, a

Luke Jones  12:14

little more plain. It doesn’t look bad. But put it this way, if you flipped it, let’s say these new uniforms were what they were wearing the last 30 years, 25 years, 26 years, whatever it actually is, and they were now going to what they’ve had the last two and a half decades, close to three decades. I’d say it’s an upgrade. I think this is a downgrade in that way. Now it’s slight. I’m fine with what they have the jerseys, you know? They kind of have the wings on the collar like that. You know that? Here’s the thing, it’s funny because the Ravens put out, like this whole graphic with explanations of different things. As you mentioned, the one thing they’re on the white jerseys, which is the road jersey, most of the time, it does have a Baltimore word mark, rather than Ravens. Those elements, to me, I’m kind of unmoved by them, because when they’re playing, you don’t see that. One of my biggest things, everyone loves this black helmet, this Matt, you know, the matte black helmet they have put out now they’re

Nestor Aparicio  13:12

not going to see the red dots in those eyes. It’s going

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Luke Jones  13:15

to look it’s just going to look like a solid black helmet, which I think that I would agree the helmet up close like, if you wanted to get players to sign that helmet as a souvenir you were going to put on your on your fireplace or something like that, it looks badass. I would agree with that, practically speaking. And this is where the bigger point we all should remember with any uniform, and I was, it’s why I was so uneasy about the idea of or, you know, to Oregon Ducks.

Nestor Aparicio  13:44

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can see peshawti Looking at all of these pajamas and silver helmets that shimmer, and

Luke Jones  13:50

just saying, Nah, you have to see what it looks like on the field, I think for as much as they had, you know, sexy lighting at Merriweather and all of that. How does it look under the stadium lights when you’re playing a Sunday night or a Monday night or a Thursday night game? And how does it look on Sunday afternoon when the sun is shining? Those are different elements. It is a different shade of purple. So I think that’s something you made the point a couple days ago when we talked about this, how their purple jerseys, at times, almost had a bluish tint to them. Well, I would also

Nestor Aparicio  14:23

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say this because we’re talking about that white jersey when they left the flying B keep in mind, I mean, as I’m sitting here with you right now, David Modell is giggling at me from wherever he sits in heaven, yeah. Because, like, I cannot, I cannot tell you how deep and dirty he and I would get on these topics. That’s fine, because he loved this stuff, and I love this stuff, and the kiss bird, and I shat upon him. He’s and he said, You should have been here. You should have you. You should you should have lobbied for it. And I’m like, I didn’t think I needed the lobby for it, dude. I thought the kiss head was what you. Liked it’s, it was obvious to me the kiss bird should have been on their helmet all along. So like

Luke Jones  15:07

a helmet, I don’t like that as a helmet logo. Go ahead. Sorry, but

Nestor Aparicio  15:11

there’s, I’m going back 28 years, right? I hear you when they changed the jerseys, if you remember, in the early Ray wore black pants and the

Luke Jones  15:18

white 96 was a different jersey.

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Nestor Aparicio  15:20

They right, completely different, even the piping and what they did with the bird on the side versus the the shield right, the crest that David loved the crest idea. Watch why I put it on the on the shoulder and I we went through this the other day, but Angelo said completely screwed the city up. Katie, a little history lesson for you there Don and Mark and David and Michael that we all live through this when they refuse to acknowledge Baltimore, which is why it’s still when they put Baltimore in the middle of the road. Jersey that was bashati trying to get back at Rubenstein because they’ve Melanie Newman can’t get enough Baltimore on her. And Jim Palmer can’t get enough Baltimore on him. So and Rob long can’t get enough Baltimore on him. They just up charge you for the right to say, be more so when they change those jerseys they won the Super Bowl. And I would be flippant enough to hold my ring up, but I’m not going to not hold Purple Rain one up. I thought that road jersey that they won the Super Bowl in was kind of weak. Now, I always love when the Colts wore their whites. You know, I would see them wear the blue at home for the most part, but there was a period of time where the Colts wore whites at home, you know, for a couple of minutes. And I love seeing them in the white and the blue. I mean, I think that cult white, white on white, and they’ve bastardized it out, and they’ve worn black pants and blue pit whatever Carly wants to do. It ain’t mine no more. He’s 42 years ago. You know, as my ex X, ex wife, mean, so long ago to like Sting was in the police. That’s how long ago it was. So I never loved that kit because it wasn’t purple enough. So when they won this, when I think of Dwayne Starks, or I think of rod Woodson in that game, I saw Jamal, you know, on stage, and I saw J Lo on stage. Those guys in that white outfit, the numbers looked black, they and especially when they got sweaty, when goose sweating it, even after the game, I’m standing next to Rob Burnett, when they were sweat through that color went from purple like and you know who loved that, David. That’s what a real Raven looks like, a real dude, my dude, my dude. Let me tell you what the f is. That effing bird has a sheen and it’s black, and when it sweats, it sweats a shade of violet. This is David would be. That’s how David was. And Michelle’s laughing somewhere for his kids, that’s the way David was. And so when it got dark, David, I love that. I love that it’s dark and we’re coming to kick your ass, you know, and that’s the real David. But I thought it didn’t look purple enough, and the helmet was too black, and he put the wrong bird on it. I feel like I’m talking, my God, I’m talking to David. That’s what I should say to him. You put the wrong bird on the helmet. Let’s start with that, David. So I, you know, I’ve been at this in a in a big way, in meeting you 1518, years ago, in talking about this. But when I start to talk about what they’ve been wearing all of these years, I don’t come on and bitch about sickle B being the wrong direction on this other sticker, you know, like whatever I mean, I but don’t wear your pajamas. That’s where I draw the line. And I don’t think they did anything like that at all. I don’t think it’s better. I think it has less gold. I’d like it to have more schmaltz as sizzle, you know, whatever. It doesn’t. And I’m okay. And they muted the purple, and they’re just gonna look more like Planet Fitness, honestly, than they look like what David liked, which is, when we sweat through it, it turns into a dark, deep we don’t want any lavender or lilac around here. We’re we’re the effing Ravens. We’re tough. We’re black. We’re tough, black birds with a purple sheen. And that’s how David saw. We’re not the Fruit of the Loom, underwear purple or Barney purple.

Luke Jones  19:18

Yeah, I would say, like I said, I’ll miss the gold trim from the home jersey and the white jersey numbers, but they’re fine to me, the overwhelming biggest upgrade, that purple helmet now having the regular logo on it. I think that looks great. I see I totally I like the kiss bird, you know, head on as a logo for a hat, or even on a t shirt. I think it looks bad on a helmet. I think that purple alternate helmet that they introduced a couple years ago now having the regular logo on it, I think that looks great. I think that’s the biggest upgrade. I think they can actually wear that helmet with a.

Nestor Aparicio  20:01

I said to David back in 99 black, you need more purple in your kit. But when you’re around the white, you need more purple in your kit. That’s all and and that’s how I felt about it, and not what like I’m holding my plan of fitness up. What shade Do you like? You know, pick the purple you like. You like the lavender. You like the deep purple. You like the lilac. You know. Where are you? I’ve always felt more like as I’m pointing at it. I like the darker purple I you know, and I’ve been okay with that, and I don’t need it to be more muted in any way. But I do like the gold part of the logo, and they’ve taken that out. You thought they were going to lean into the red, and they did on the eyeballs.

Luke Jones  20:40

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I was just spitballing on that. I didn’t know if that would be what they would do. And, you know, to me, that would have been a very like, it would have been easy to go too much on that. So I think that was probably a good idea. These are, they’re fine. They’re fine. I I exhaled when I first saw them, because I thought, okay, they didn’t mess them up. They still look like the Ravens. Generally speaking, it’s still the identity that you’ve come to know. Like I said, I think it’s a slight downgrade as far as what they’ve done with the jerseys. But I’m not, you know, again, a minus to a, b plus or something like that. Like, it’s not, oh man, these stink or anything like that. You know the they’ve got the wings kind of on the collars. If you look at each each Jersey like that’s, again, something that might look cool up close, it’s not going to translate on TV whatsoever. That’s why I said to me the biggest upgrade was putting the regular logo on the purple helmet. That I actually think, hey, wear that purple helmet more often, you know. And I think the rules are a little bit, you know, they the NFL. They’ve, they’ve loosened a lot of the how many times you can wear alternate uniforms and all that. But trying to sell them wear that, wear that purple helmet, more like, I’m not saying all, you know, make it your primary one. But they can wear that with any of their uniform. Come I do

Nestor Aparicio  21:55

some point I can identify what their primary uniform actually is.

Luke Jones  21:59

I think it’s as far as I can, as far as I know, it’s still going to just be the purple and the white, you know, the purple for top white bottoms. And then, although, I mean, the pants are going to be, you know that that’s they have different combinations every week with that stuff. I don’t love that. I one of my buddies pointed this out to me. I hadn’t really even noticed that much. I don’t love the stripes on the sides of the pants a whole lot. You know, I thought before of having the, it was kind of a bolder stripe on the side of the pant. Again, these are little things.

Nestor Aparicio  22:29

I’m missing the gold in the kit. That’s all. It’d be my only complaint that, really, I don’t really have a complaint.

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Luke Jones  22:35

The only one that has gold now is what, they’re not called the color rush anymore. But the color rush ones are really the only thing that has gold. Those are hot,

Nestor Aparicio  22:43

yeah, you know, I and even that night, when they look like, you know, purple Fruit of the Loom running around the LA Coliseum up and down, I always, you know, I that that that’s a cool I like that look. And when I see somebody wearing a roquan Smith jersey or a Lamar jersey with the gold eight. I’m like, I see why you bought that. That’s hot, you know. I mean, like, that’s good, you know. So I don’t have any, I’ve already chat upon the Super Bowl 35 kid, which it was also fine. This is fine. I I don’t think they’ve ever gone out. I like the gold pants, dude, you hated the gold

Luke Jones  23:16

pants, but the gold pants, and I would also, I

Nestor Aparicio  23:18

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don’t like them in a white top and black pants. I think that’s that that doesn’t look good, and that’s the original 96

Luke Jones  23:25

look, right? Maybe it might look a little bit better now, because the black pants do have kind of, like a subtle purple stripes on the sides, although, again, I don’t know if it’s going to show up really, unless you’re like, really up close, but

Nestor Aparicio  23:36

they’re fine. They’re a white on white fan, because of the 70s and Burt Jones. You know what I mean, like in Lionel Mitchell, like, I like, always a great look to me.

Luke Jones  23:45

It reminds me of the 2000 ravens, the road warrior. You know

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Nestor Aparicio  23:51

that with the purple helmet, you’re real happy?

Luke Jones  23:53

Um, I’d be interested to see what that looks like. Yeah, sure. Like I said, I like the purple helmet. That of everything they changed to me, that was overwhelmingly the biggest upgrade I know. I’m I’m in the minority on the black helmet look. I think the black helmet looks really cool up close. I think it’s going to look like they’re wearing plain black helmets during the games. And it’s, that’s fine, that there’s nothing wrong with that. But I’m just kind of like shrugging my shoulders at that.

Nestor Aparicio  24:19

So it’s gonna be a black guy jersey, right? They’re gonna wear that they’re gonna

Luke Jones  24:22

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wear, yeah, it’ll be, they’re all black, and it’ll be fine. Like, I’m not. All of these things are like, little like, I’m fine with it, if it, if this were a simple thumbs up, thumbs down, it’s a thumbs up. Do you have anything

Nestor Aparicio  24:35

else on the jerseys you want to spit out? Because we’ve done three segments on jerseys this week. Yeah, yeah, I think. And I’m about to do Radom, who’s like The Godfather.

Luke Jones  24:42

I’ll just, I’ll, I’ll revert to what I said earlier in our segment. I think it’s important with any uniforms we have to see how they look in practice, right? In meaning, like when they’re playing in the game,

Nestor Aparicio  24:55

not on the catwalk at marywell, right?

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Luke Jones  24:57

How does it look in the sunlight? How does it look when that’s. Cloudy. How do they look when it’s prime time? Sexy for

Nestor Aparicio  25:03

myself to sexy form.

Luke Jones  25:05

And I think they’re fine. There’s I’m not. I was afraid of being offended and like, oh my gosh, they complete, like they this is, we’re gonna have to look at this crap.

Nestor Aparicio  25:12

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See, that’s what Steve probably did not want for anybody. So I don’t know anybody could be up and up and to be really honest, if this weren’t 2026, and they weren’t pimping their new coach and bringing Todd heap in and bringing Mike, yeah, this was, it’s so subtle that if you just looked at the picture, you’d be like,

Luke Jones  25:31

Yeah, okay, like, the Rams actually just did an update. And I’m like, you know, I’m a nerd with this stuff. I had to, like, really look at it, be like, Oh, okay, yeah, this isn’t quite like. This was a little more noticeable than that, but yeah, it’s not dramatic, and it’s fine. I give it a thumbs up. Like I said, I like the old ones better. I’m not going to shy away from that. If it were up to me, I would have just kept the old ones. But if you were going to change, they’re fine. In my personal taste, they’re a slight downgrade, just because I I I like the old ones that much, that that much so, but they’re fine, and I am curious to see how they look when they’re in the games, and how they look in the stadium. I’m just my biggest concern was that they were going to Oregon duck all of this up, and you’re going to have numbers that maybe look cool when you’re looking at them up close, but they’re a nightmare to try to read and all those things, and they didn’t do anything like that. So if, at the end of the day, I’m fine with what they did, how do

Nestor Aparicio  26:26

you mess up? Eric Dickerson, you know, how do you mess that up? How do you mess up? Pat Hayden, I have no idea. You know, dude, I was going to get all my Oilers gear out here, but I’m having speaking of logos, and I’ll get into this with Radom. I’m having a complete denouncement meltdown about them putting the Oilers logos on the Titans. And I think the people in Tennessee are like, sure, we kicked our ass. Bring it on. Let’s have it. You know, we need to be the Allers. Okay? I mean, now you’re running away from everything you ran away from. I mean, it’s really, what a weird franchise. What a weird lady running that place and her dad and I mean, they had the best markings on earth. Go back to

Luke Jones  27:06

Houston and put them on. Yeah, I will continue to say one of the biggest things in hindsight, that I am so glad that art modell and the and this organization. Did you know, regardless of that initial Baltimore browns, like T shirts that unlicensed T shirts that you could find, there’s no Browns connections whatsoever, other than Ozzy Newsome.

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Nestor Aparicio  27:30

Basically, by the way, art lied to me in the very first question on the podium. So I should say art and David never lied to me. First question I asked, and I got the first question, and sitting next to Peter King, was, Will they still be the browns? Because that was the it was a fan question. That’s the first question. That’s the first question that you got to ask. You can go back and look, yeah, sit next to Paris Clint Denning, and he’s like, we’ll be called the browns. You know, I learned three weeks later that he was holding it back and Pat Moriarty, it was a bargaining chip. It was a bargaining chip. Yeah, sure, yeah, so. But we all thought we were going to have that. We did. You thought that when

Luke Jones  27:56

you were 11 years old? I’m almost positive now my dad did not. I’m pretty sure my late my aunt, God, rest her soul. I think her family had a couple of the unlicensed Baltimore brown shirts. In fact, I should ask my cousins if they have that lying around anywhere, because I almost, almost, unless

Nestor Aparicio  28:15

you know what, like the heck company or hostels had Baltimore Cardinal stuff going when Bidwell was coming here, there. I mean Stan Rappaport, who was my boss at the

Luke Jones  28:23

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pace, probably Baltimore Bengal stuff somewhere.

Nestor Aparicio  28:25

Yeah, Stan used to wear this Baltimore Cardinal shirt every night to work when we didn’t have a team. I’m just

Luke Jones  28:31

but I’m just so glad because you’re when you cut ties in terms of nickname history records, all that you are not tempted then to do what the Colts have done in the past, break out Johnny Unitas throwbacks or anything like that. And you’re not tempted to do what the Titans are doing now, which is stealing another City’s identity and using it as your own. And and I get it. You know the here you want

Nestor Aparicio  28:57

to see a horse race. I give you a horse race right here. Here’s the St Louis Cardinals and the Los Angeles Rams. And when this crazy lady bought the team because her husband drowned mysteriously, and she dragged the team off, she put Jack Young blood’s name on the side of the wall in the place where this team used to play with Jim Hart. And then this team went out to Arizona and took the logo, and still, I I mean, I look but being the child of pub, or, say, in the Mayflower vans here, I take it a different way, as those Oilers how this works. Those Oilers

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Luke Jones  29:31

uniform should be, first of all, they should just be retired period. But if anyone should have the right to wear them, the Texans should be able to wear those as a throwback for the people of Houston. It’s not how it works. I know, I know a contrarian right now will say, hey, they were the Tennessee Oilers for a couple years. They technically were, but come on. I mean, we I just, I don’t like it, period. I think it’s and I’m so I’m so glad they’re the Ravens. Aren’t even in a position where they can say, oh, let’s do some. To tip our cap to Jim Brown, you know what I mean? Like, it’s because it’s just that’s not your guy, like Jim Brown,

Nestor Aparicio  30:07

or even Lenny Moore, if the Ravens put a horseshoe on their uniform, like, I don’t need that, no, but you don’t need that. Nobody young needs that.

Luke Jones  30:17

I would, I would say this, that that wouldn’t be offensive to me that would be, that would have been, you know, that cold Jersey

Nestor Aparicio  30:22

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belongs to Peyton Manning at this point. Now it does Sure.

Luke Jones  30:25

Now it does Sure. But if, if we could go back and do things the right way. First of all, I don’t like teams moving from cities, period. But putting that aside, if they have to, you know, to me, you have to get a two new name, new colors, new records, stay in that city, all of that. It’s, it’s viewed as a brand new franchise, and that’s how the Ravens did it, and that’s the way it should be anywhere when, when a team moves. I mean, that’s just my opinion, and then you wouldn’t have problems

Nestor Aparicio  30:50

like this, and you don’t have any identity crisis when they go down to Merryweather and they run around their pajamas and they bring Jesse Mithra, they’re the Ravens. They’re purple. They look like the Ravens. And that feels like, you know, one of the assets of Steve bishati and his conservative feelings would be like we’re not. They have a perceive what the he’s seen, what the Falcons have done in the Eagles. He knows what he likes and what he doesn’t like, and he likes his football team.

Luke Jones  31:13

Look like his football team, and that’s good. Here’s where I’ll stick up for the Eagles a little bit. I agree with you. The old school kelly green is a way better look. That said these uniforms they have now. They’ve basically had those for 30 years. Now. They’ve tweaked them a little bit here and there, but like that midnight green and everything, at least, like the Falcons. Falcons change their uniforms every four years. I mean, it’s like, it’s like a president, like, you know, oh, that, that times come around again. The Falcons have changed their uniforms again. The Eagles, at the very least, those uniforms that look, whether you love it or not, has been their look now for a really long time, but I’m in agreement with you all things being equal, that Kelly Green’s a way better.

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Nestor Aparicio  31:49

The new uniforms that they have look like they were manufactured by an AI machine at the Nike Corporation, not anything that feels like these artistic, you know, unique looking things, and that’s why I’m I’m going to talk to raid him about that. Todd radham has written books on this. If you like logos and jerseys, if you’re bored out of your mind, don’t worry. We have plenty other stuff. I’m going to be doing the Maryland crab cake tour Koco’s on Thursday before the draft. By the way, Luke, the most important thing is, like, who they’re going to draft, you know, so and we were going to, like, move off of that, but we’ve already done hours on that. We’ll do more next week on rumors and lies and and the liars luncheon. All of that can be found up at Baltimore positive. I’ll have the Maryland treasures scratch offs. We talk about art and artsy and logos and all the cool things. You know, we’re humans. We love eye candy around here, which is why we wear the logos. I’m wearing my planet fitness logo. We’re going to be there on May 7. We’re on May 1. We’re going to be going to be at Pizza John’s. Luke’s got that logo on. And you know, I see that pizza John’s logo, you know what makes me want to do? Eat pizza and cheese steaks and probably french fries and gravy. Somebody will share them with me. I’ll be there on May 1, May 7, to Planet Fitness in timmonium. And by the way, pick the lavender you like I got. You know, this is my party hat, and it doesn’t fit right on my head, but I told her, it’s gonna I’m gonna wear it because it looks festive and and I’m in better shape than I was even in December. And you’re all DDP ed up, so we are. I’m ready to go at Planet Fitness. I’m more fit than I’ve ever been, so let’s go team also on May 13, I’m going to be doing the crab races at Lexington market at fayettely’s, and the rumors are true. The fishmonger’s daughter is this close to open, and maybe next week. I’m getting a little sneak preview this week over in Catonsville, right next to State Fair, and across Mel guapo and down the street from Beaumont, and I’ll be doing the show over there too. So I’m looking forward to that. But Lexington market on May 13, all they’re brought to you by Farnham and Dermer. They are the comfort guys. H back crazy times when it gets to be 90 degrees and your air condition doesn’t work, make sure you get in on that. Now call the comfort guys at Farnham and Dermer. Find them online. Find them at Baltimore positive. They will take great care of you. And I’m at a GBMC walking a mile in their shoes on Friday. It’s going to be let’s see. I’m looking at the weather right now because, like, I know it’s going to be like, 50 and awful next week. So like, I’m trying to, like, soak in this four days, 4pm 77 and sunny at 4pm at GBMC. So for that, I am grateful. I am Nestor. He is Luke. The ravens are still wearing purple. They’re still drafting next week. They’re still playing in Brazil. The Orioles still need better pitching. We’re back for more. It’s Baltimore. Positive. Stay with us.