Luke Jones and Nestor continue to wait for Ravens purple smoke to clear as NFL Draft approaches and the standoff with Lamar Jackson continues with no end in sight.
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Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Looking back at W and S, G, Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive reminder that if youโre listening out there and I am 1570 set a place on your dial for us for the baseball season, the spring season, the Baltimore positive season, the Maryland crabcake tour season. Weโre gonna begin that thing on Wednesday Costas, Iโll be giving away the instant lottery old schoolers because itโs the 50th anniversary of the Maryland lottery. Weโre celebrating John Martinโs gonna be with us. Cost This is one of the original people that sold lottery tickets 50 years ago. There arenโt many of those left. Weโre starting to celebration it cost us on Wednesday afternoon for two of the five will be at faithless on Friday the new arena. Weโve had some arena memories around here some wrestling memories some opening day memories around here this week. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band in town on Friday and of course on Saturday the Eagles will be on Friday morning celebrating the downtown Renaissance. at Ballyโs in the old Lexington market next to the new Lexington market you can check out on Friday morning. Iโll be checking out downtown all weekend. Come on back downtown. Great excuses to come downtown with Oriole baseball, Bruce Springsteen and the legendary eagles. Speaking of eagles, Luke Jones, football segment, Darius slay thereโs nothing going on with Lamar. The only news made over the weekend was the baker Mayfield turned down the ravens and Darius slay turned down the Ravens right so like itโs been very quiet since the weird Arizona press conference last week. But now that sort of the itโs quiet around here other people are talking around the league and itโs fascinating. Yeah,
Luke Jones 01:37
I mean the Darius slay thing we letโs be clear, the Eagles never officially released him. He had requested the trade it looked like they were going to release him he said is goodbye in that period at some point in time. He according to him, and of course the Ravens were denied because he was under contract still, but we know tampering and back channel conversations happen all the time in the NFL, but he said he came quite, quote close to signing with the ravens and ultimately the ravens, according to him, offered him a deal that ultimately Howie Roseman and the Eagles gave him to stay in Philadelphia. So I think itโs interesting from the standpoint of it does reflect a willingness as much as weโve talked about Lamar Jackson, and this offseason being hijacked or being in a holding pattern, whatever you want to does reflect that the ravens are willing to spend and sign the right free agent. And clearly, in their mind, they had some interest in Darius slay which, again, the way Marlon Humphrey was tweeting at the time led you to believe that there was there were some legs to that, even if Eric Decosta would deny it publicly. But hey, slays back with the Eagles. So itโs, you know, itโs a moot point anyway, you mentioned Baker Mayfield I mean, the Ravens had kind of sniffed around some of the veteran quarterbacks who have found chairs elsewhere. I donโt think that was something that was shocking, necessarily, I donโt think they were looking for any of those individuals. They werenโt doing that with those individuals being starters in their mind, but just understanding the reality of where they are with their franchise quarterback right now, beyond that, nothingโs really changed with Lamar, other than the fact that we know he made a trade offer and he made it public last week. But itโs something thatโs been there for a month now. You know, that was March 2, weโre now into April. And it does not appear that it made any difference in terms of drumming up interest, itโs
Nestor Aparicio 03:34
fair to say, Iโve been trying dude, Iโve been trying, you know, like,
Luke Jones 03:40
Well, I mean, whether heโs been trying or not, I mean, the interest isnโt there with all the variables in place now. Now, if Lamar Jackson were a traditional free agent, there would be teams sniffing around there. I have no doubt or they should be, quite frankly, because lots of teams have lousy quarterback situations and Lamar is way better than a ton of quarterbacks in this league. Yeah, Iโm stating the obvious there. But with all of the list of circumstances, all of the variables at work, itโs led to where we are, which is the ravens and Lamar continuing to be in this impasse from a contract contract standpoint, and Lamar not finding the necessary interest to get the number that heโs looking for, whether itโs from another team, or whether itโs from the Ravens being pressed to step up their offer. So it leads us where weโve been for weeks and even months now, which is Lamar Jacksonโs only suitor in terms of the team that wants him the most is the Ravens. And on the flip side, the Ravens havenโt been able to get a deal done with Lamar, but whatโs their alternative at this point? So yeah, I mean, itโs not as though you know, itโs easy to say, one side or the other wants to move on or maybe both sides want to move on deep down. But until thereโs an avenue for that to become possible. Weโre left talking about the same thing over and over and over again. So Itโs led to a not very enjoyable offseason when Nelson Aguilar is your only outside edition. But itโs where the ravens are is weโre now a few weeks away from the draft. And itโs thereโs just not a lot of buzz right now as it relates to this fan base, thereโs not a lot of enthusiasm because they are in this holding pattern where even if Lamar Jackson is going to be the quarterback in 2023, you then ask the question, well, what have you done to get better? And thatโs whatโs frustrating if youโre a Baltimore Ravens fan right now.
Nestor Aparicio 05:31
Alright, so traps three weeks away. And they have their picks. Anybody Iโve talked to smart about the draft, Iโve had my 20 year on, you know, Iโve JT the brick. I mean, just people in the league and around the league, people that have been at the owners meetings, feel like theyโre going to deal back anyway like that number 22. Where they are, if they if thereโs not a Lamar deal, they donโt have the Colts pick that up. And thatโs still in play. Right? I mean, they still have this dangling quarterback to your point that it only takes one owner in whatever way to feel however they feel about draft picks. We donโt really know how the Ravens feel but Dennis and I are pretty strongly in our opinion that theyโd like to move on because of all the uncertainty and the overall uncertainty that if they donโt sign him, heโs not coming in for practices. He thereโs nobody believes heโs showing up here and throwing a football in a purple practice jersey, as things are without some massive movement on the Ravens part. Thatโs not going to happen before August 30 When he starts to get paid or whatever that date is in late August. So the rest of it pretend that doesnโt exist. I know. Thatโs impossible. We havenโt done that the last eight weeks. But just if weโre about to have a serious 15 minute conversation about anything else, and I donโt know you and I have I donโt really know that we have I know weโve talked about Aguilar, we know we talked about Marcus Peters. I know we talked about clays Campbell, I you know, and thatโs changed. I know we talked about what theyโre gonna do Patrick queen, and maybe they throw that into the Lamar deal to get something that feels like another draft pick back. Are they throwing the tent in here on Lamar and saying, Look, weโll survive a 567 win season, whatever it is this year. shotty Arbol de Costa theyโre safe. The fans have got tickets? Fine. We got ro Quan Smith, fine. We have $40 million in cap space. Fine. I donโt know what that would be. But what what else? Is there oxygen for? If we donโt talk about Lamar for a couple of minutes?
Luke Jones 07:34
Well, I mean, I think you just look at the other positions of need they have right now. I mean, Marcus Peters is still out on the market, but heโs unsigned. And whoโs your starting corner opposite Marlon Humphrey at this point? I donโt think itโs Brandon Stevens. So you look at the draft there potentially at 22nd. Overall, obviously, wide receiver, which you know what weโve talked about, weโll continue to talk about, because thatโs what we do every year here in Baltimore. So those are the two positions I look to in the first round. As far as your trading back comment. I agree. However, and this has happened in the past where the Ravens even knew at the time or usually after the fact that deep down, they wanted to move back. And especially this being a year where they only have five picks, they donโt have a second round pick, I think theyโd certainly like to move back. But youโve got to have someone who wants to move up. And thatโs where you look at this draft class. And certainly there are positions where there is depth, or there are intriguing options. But when you have a draft class that maybe doesnโt have quite as many of the lucrative upside kind of talents. Sometimes itโs a little more difficult to do that. So I think theyโd like to trade back but you got to have someone who wants to do it, right. And thatโs where you look at it. And you look at the four quarterbacks that have been talked about, obviously, Bryce young, and you know, he and CJ Stroud are gonna go quick, you know, theyโre gonna go quickly. You know, what happens with Anthony Richardson? I think thatโs, you know, heโll go sooner rather than later, just gonna be a matter of whether itโs 123. And, you know, Indy tries to move up, assuming theyโre not in the Lamar Jackson sweepstakes. No will Lavis is the interesting one, because I think people see some of the raw talents and say, okay, but the production, the fact that he transferred to Kentucky, from from Penn State and couldnโt beat out, you know, Sean Clifford, at Penn State, you know, thereโs questions that error. So anytime you have a quarterback that potentially slides and last a little bit later into the first round, thatโs then when it becomes interesting if thereโs a team that wants to try to get that quarterback. So again, thatโs just one scenario. And look, those four quarterbacks might all be gone in the first eight picks. So I mean, certainly there are scenarios where that plays out. But if youโre the ravens, yeah, I think youโd like to trade back. But you got to have someone who wants to come up. So I donโt know if thatโs necessarily going to come to fruition and itโs impossible to predict that when we have no idea how the first safe 15 or 20 picks play out as far as how the board unfolds. So, but I think itโs obvious when you look at the Ravens right now they have to not counting quarterback and you know, if weโre making the assumption that Lamar, oh, heโs their quarterback, heโs on the franchise tag right now. So putting that aside its corner or wide receivers, so sort of wide receiver like, say flowers. Is that a corner? I mean, Joey Porter is probably not going to last that long. As much as that would be fun seeing the former Steelers son become a raven is a terrific talent watched him at Penn State a lot. Heโs a he can really play. Iโm guessing heโs going to be long gone by 22. Thatโs my gut. So, you know, the, the usual suspects will be talked about between now and draft night. But that trade down scenario, I agree with you. But again, youโve got to have that right prospect that falls that that team, you know, whoeverโs picking in the late 20s are moving back into the first round, whatever it is, where theyโre so hot and bothered to say we must have that guy, what do you want? And then thatโs the scenario that you try to take advantage of. So, you know, sort of that, you know, you make the pick at 22. Like I said, Iโd be not that I would ever say shocked or 100% Because itโs the ravens and theyโre going to talk about best player available. And there have been instances where they take best player available even if itโs not their biggest need per se. But this being very clear where their roster stands. They need a wide receiver. They need another cornerback thatโs obvious. We can talk about edge we could talk about a guard. There are clearly other positions that you could add to defensive line with class Campbell, having now officially signed with Atlanta knowing heโs not coming back. But the two big ones continue to be wide receiver in corner and based on where the free agent market is now at this point other than like an Odell Beckham at wide receiver options are pretty, pretty sparse unless youโre going to make a trade. But then we go back to the Ravens donโt have a whole lot of draft capital. So itโs where it leaves them in this position where the cost is going to have to be surgical in terms of how he tries to address this roster. Understanding the Lamar Jackson thing hanging over the entire organization right now.
Nestor Aparicio 12:11
Well, and I do want to point this out that the Coleus Campbell thing, my buddy Rick blue, who I work with at Sporting News Radio 20 years ago, heโs done sports radio on part of the Jacksonville Jaguars team, much like I mentioned brick earlier is in Vegas. You know, all part of being legitimate media members. I have these relationships over 30 years that theyโre trying to take away from me but the Rick blues situation he called me in because glass cable visited down there and said what did you have left in the tank or whatever. And I kind of had to talk eloquently about Coleus Campbell, and I didnโt think about him not coming back. And then I think about him not coming back and think about dude, he did a lot of contributing around here, the last couple years and maybe in some sort of quiet way where you donโt notice him like a Steve Smith or an Anquan Boldin or one of those veteran guys you bring in here, he was just sort of in there. Heโs the big old guy. Heโs the biggest guy fingers into kicks that he blocks and things like that. But more than that, like heโs a grown ass man. You know, when I walked in that locker room in Pittsburgh, the one time had a precipice, I went over to him, talk to him, a grown up. Are you like a guy you want on your football team? I donโt know how youโre replaced that. And I think these are sort of the shrapnel in all of this war with Lamar, that they they canโt get their own guys back. And even if they could get them back, they have to ask whatโs up with Lamar? I donโt want to come back there. But now Chris Campbell, son and Lana kind of shocked me he was about money. I thought he wanted one. I donโt think heโs you know, he feels to me like heโs getting paid. And thatโs okay. Yeah, he
Luke Jones 13:40
is. Right. He is. I mean, heโs 7 million is the reported full guarantee. I mean, thatโs what the Ravens didnโt want to pay him right. I mean, they had a base salary. And I think once he was a roster bonus off the top my head, I donโt have the contract in front of me. But you know, it was $7 million in new money and they didnโt want to pay him that they had talked about reworking a deal. You know, whether you turn it into incentives or straight pay, cut, add some void years, whatever you want to do. But we know the Ravens released him two days prior to the new league year. I was definitely surprised from the standpoint of you heard some of the reported interest. I mean, Iโve even done a radio hit with Jacksonville. And there was a lot of excitement about the mayor of Saxon Ville, you know, as he was called when he was there, his first time around with the Jaguars potentially coming back and knowing that the Jags had made the playoffs last year. I was talking to someone over the weekend that through some back channels that I had heard that class was really interested in joining the Buffalo Bills even but he winds up in Atlanta. This is where Iโll remind one, it is a business and itโs still about money and guarantee dollars. And class Campbell. Heโs an NFL pa guys so thatโs where you do have to keep in mind if the offers elsewhere were substantially lower than what Atlanta was offering him. Then Iโm not as surprised but Certainly I was looking at him. One, I thought there was an outside chance that he could come back with the thought that that was certainly possible. Yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 15:08
I think at the end of the year, he might regret that.
Luke Jones 15:12
He might and not even so much Atlanta as opposed to the ravens, because again, was, you know, was he going to have to take substantially less money to be back with the Ravens but Jacksonville?
Nestor Aparicio 15:23
You think of the Ravens winning a Super Bowl if youโre him? I donโt think I am. You know what I mean, like all things equal, I donโt think you just think Iโm going to Baltimore right now with their Lamar. And if you love Lamar, and you want to play with Lamar Gray, your wide receiver, you probably donโt, to some degree, right. But I would say the general feeling is ro Quan Smith, maybe he doesnโt make Marlin Humphries is born into here and right, these guys that have money here, they have to say theyโre happy to be here. But when you get a chance to sign here, and youโre Darius slay and youโre like, am I better? Am I gonna win there? Am I gonna win here? The Ravens arenโt a place youโre gonna win right now. Iโm I mean that as a fan, as a journalist, as I just if Iโm looking at it and flying in as a 37 year old football player, and saying is this year the year for the Ravens? No bueno. Not right here right now. And not even if Lamar gets his money, and heโs happy, and heโs back, I, Iโm still not convinced that they donโt have the fifth or sixth best quarterback in the conference, if they signed Lamar at this point, because of what Iโve seen with these other players.
Luke Jones 16:28
Oh, okay. Iโll push back on the last sentiment. I mean, if they sign him long term, you can lower the cap figure. Look, youโre still even if you think heโs fifth or sixth. I mean, Joe Flacco was never the best comp quarterback in the AFC, you know, and this team does have a really good defense. What else can you do? Do you do you hit on a wide receiver, but your your initial point, there is a lot of uncertainty, thereโs no question about that. And thatโs where you look at it and say, Is Lamar gonna be here? One, one factor that weโve talked about as far as wide receivers and not that the Ravens have necessarily been in that market because it was a very tepid, very underwhelming wide receiver free agent market, but youโre talking about individuals where they look at that situation and say, okay, unless youโre gonna really overpay me, which we know the ravens, They donโt pay wide receivers, whether whether theyโve been right or wrong about that. Thatโs back to I mean, when was the last wide receiver that they really paid? It was Anquan Boldin, I guess they tried to pay Ryan grant and that fiasco in 2018, the guy who flunked his physical but but I think you just look at it if youโre one of those other wide receivers. I donโt even think itโs so much the I donโt want to play with Lamar Jackson thing. I, I still think that was much more Greg, Roman thing, and Greg Roman is not here anymore. So you can even say, you just ask though, is Lamar gonna be here? Like, is he gonna be here? Are you guys gonna trade him? Or is he gonna not show up. So it does knock them down a couple pegs in that way, not to the point where theyโre bad, they still have a really good roster in most areas on either side of the ball. So itโs not as though they have nothing going for them. But when your quarterback situation is unsettled, and itโs perceived to be holding up the rest of your attempts to roster build, when Nelson Aguilar is the one outside addition youโve made, and weโre now into April, I mean, come on. Now, how can how can you not look at that and look at the Ravens right now and say youโre either the John Harbaugh always likes to say it and Bo Schembechler and others have said this, too, but youโre either getting better, youโre getting worse, right? How could you look at the Ravens this offseason, and say in any shape, or form that theyโre getting better? Yeah. Just look at the, you know, not that theyโve lost a ton of players that youโve say, would kill them, but theyโve lost players and theyโve added one. So
Nestor Aparicio 18:49
well, that would be why am Iโm saying if Iโm looking at her, Iโm an agent, directing a player at that at a tender point in their career about winning, not making money. I mean, Nelson Aguilar, he needs a job, right? Itโs a job right? And like, and they gave him a job, and thatโs great. Well, whoever the quarterback is, heโs happy. And theyโre gonna have these draft picks to come in here. They kind of have to come and play, but recruiting players, and theyโve had a hard time recruiting wide receivers, as weโve talked about in this offense. Theyโve had a hard time recruiting players in a general sense, because they havenโt had a lot of money. Theyโre never a Money Team out trying to sign some other teams Von Miller, you know, I mean, theyโve never been that franchise. I donโt know that theyโre about to be that franchise, but theyโre about to have some money. If Lamar is not here, if whatever, transpires that heโs not here, and I know you think heโs stuck here, and weโll have to come back and play and have to make nice and have to figure it out. I think weโre getting closer to that. I donโt even know the odds. Weโll have to play that out after the draft, as far as this non exclusive franchise tag and two number ones and a one and 2425 instead knew what it could be and what the odds are and all that but I canโt it keeps me up at night. Iโm up at night thinking like how is this really gonna play out? You know and Iโm writing about the owners This week Iโm writing about Little John running around with you know, being the baseball owner and doing media and and big shot he often is boat hiding and all the mess around the ravens and this weird energy around the Orioles this time of year at least for the time being and you know till somebody gets hurt with the Orioles Radley rutschman goes to the Hall of Fame. But itโs a fascinating time to see the Ravens in sort of this murky mysterious place. And Nicholas Campbell signing to your point, taking the money pa guy hear all that? But like, is this attractive anymore? Is this a place you feel like I can go and win right here right now and itโs not right here right now this minute. Maybe it is with a happy Lamar or a quarterback of soy milk. But theyโre theyโre a long way away from that right now. And this is the strangest offseason that weโve had you and I talking about this and 15 years, I think.
Luke Jones 21:02
Yeah, itโs very strange. And I mean, itโs tough. What what do you hang your hat on right now again, theyโve got plenty of positions on the roster where theyโre in good shape, right? Theyโve got one of the very best tight ends in the NFL, Ronnie Stanley finished the year healthy. And he kind of looked like Ronnie Stanley, especially as he played more and more play last season. So youโre happy about that youโve got Lindenbaum at center that looks like that was a successful first round pick, you know, regardless of trading Marquis Brown in order to do it. So you go down the list of
Nestor Aparicio 21:34
running backs. It looks like heโs healthy again. Maybe? Yeah,
Luke Jones 21:38
I mean, you know, I think the interesting thing with that is Dobbins and Edwards are both in a contract here. So thatโs interesting. But yeah, on paper, so itโs not as though the cupboard is entirely bare. But
Nestor Aparicio 21:49
if you believe in bait went into on that, letโs play positive here. I mean, Iโve always had purple, badminton, number one who looked like a decent player got hurt, give them the benefit of the doubt His nameโs not Perriman or Taylor or any of the guys from 30. You know, maybe he comes back and will look like an ad reception guy in this offense. If this offense throws the football in a way that doesnโt look like Lamar left Lamar, right running the ball 1518 times again.
Luke Jones 22:20
Yeah, sure. I mean, I like weโre shot Batemanโs potential, but heโs got to stay on the field. But youโre right. And look, thatโs not you know, you canโt do what you did last year where youโre all of your eggs are in the Bateman basket, but that doesnโt mean that youโre not counting on him this year. So and the defense corner is a legit question opposite Marlon Humphrey, youโve got to do that, whether itโs going to draft whether itโs bringing back Marcus Peters. So you have, look, those are two really important positions, wide receiver and corner. Those are premium positions. So Iโm not trying to make light of that. But itโs those
Nestor Aparicio 22:53
ads, by the way, and they gotta get somebody to get after the quarterback because they donโt have that yet. Right?
Luke Jones 22:58
Well, I mean, itโs time to go for Ole and David Jabo. I mean, first round, second round, and a job it was a first round talent who got hurt, itโs time to go, like, they need those guys to be good. They need them to be really good. Otherwise, theyโre failed unsuccessful picks, and then that falls back on scouting.
Nestor Aparicio 23:16
These guys think theyโre gonna stink, right? If payments. Thanks for real, and, you know, Queen look better, right? But these ones have to like they have to bake, we canโt be waiting on Mark Andrews in Orlando browns and tackles that are going to wind up getting $50 million someplace else or guards that you know, arenโt going to be here long term anyway, at some point, the ones to your point, we took away, you know what I mean? We use draft capital, and that has to that cake has to bake. And that and whoever they draft here, they gotta get draft eligible players. And these players have to come in and play. And thatโs, thatโs hard.
Luke Jones 23:54
Yeah, theyโre first, assuming they donโt trade back. And again, you have to have a team that wants to trade up in order for that to happen. But their first round pick needs to be someone that makes an impact. Thereโs no doubt about it. And their third round, you know, their third round pick needs to at least be in that mix, right? At least be part of some meaningful depth for you, you know, you never count on the third rounder to start year one. But itโs got to be someone that isnโt just riding the pine and as a non factor, so I donโt think theyโre, letโs be clear. If Lamar is not there to quarterback then I mean, I donโt even know what weโre, what weโre even talking about here there. You know, maybe can they be the Can They contend for the number seven seed in the AFC? Maybe? Sure. Whatโs that getting you? I donโt know. But my point is this roster is not terrible by any stretch of the imagination or anything like that. But what you just mentioned some of these young guys, if youโre talking about your upside, if youโre talking about moving up in the pecking order from wherever you think they are right now seven 6/5, whatever it is, with the caveat of Lamar being the wildcard as
Nestor Aparicio 24:55
Joe burrow wants during the regular season and having a chance to do it in January. Thatโs Really the barometer Well, right.
Luke Jones 25:01
And in fairness they did that with Tyler Huntley even as their quarterback. So what does that tell you? I donโt know if he also did
Nestor Aparicio 25:07
it with glaze Campbell and, you know, on and on and on with players.
Luke Jones 25:11
Sure, sure, sure. So yeah, I mean, itโs, thereโs, thereโs just a lot of uncertainty right now. Look, I donโt think this team, even if they donโt have Lamar, I donโt know if theyโre bad enough that theyโre going three and 14 either.
Nestor Aparicio 25:25
But they wonโt be clearly next yearโs quarterback unless they really take it.
Luke Jones 25:29
All right. Yeah, I think itโs gonna be tough just because youโve got enough good players and other spots to avoid that happening, which look, we can debate whether thatโs a good thing or not, because you donโt want to be in that purgatory standpoint of where if youโre picking 15th, youโre still not going to get a franchise
Nestor Aparicio 25:44
quarterback. As a Ravens fan, weโve had the opportunity that some like browns fans, weโve had, we could yell we suck less. Because you know what I mean? Like, you know, weโve never picked one, and weโve picked four, you know, but weโve never picked one. Thereโs a whole different level to how you get that quarterback, and Steve shot, and John Harbaugh and Eric Decosta probably donโt want any part of that.
Luke Jones 26:07
Well, and thatโs whatโs tough about and thatโs why I continue to push back on notions that theyโre done with Lamar, Look, I I do I think if the right if a team came calling and gave them a really attractive package, that they wouldnโt trade, Lamar, I think they I think they would under that scenario. But who is that team? You know, I mean, we can only get
Nestor Aparicio 26:30
a buddyโs gonna give him anything because no one wants to give him 200 million. Itโs not about the draft picks. Itโs about they they canโt, if Iโm really people ask me. Why itโs not happening. I would say itโs not about the draft picks. Itโs not about Jim mercy. Itโs about $200 million in the in the Union and the original sin in the Garden of Eden. And that thatโs it, theyโre the owners arenโt going to guarantee in that money after not playing football the last two years, no matter what the Browns did for the show, and therefore, that is the stalemate. I donโt think thereโs any coming back tail between his legs and taking 138 of guaranteed money for three years here and hitting the market. I donโt think the Union wants him to do that. I donโt think I think if he was set up to do that he would have done that a long time ago.
Luke Jones 27:16
Yeah, I mean, look, I Iโve said all along, Iโm not going to try to assume what Lamar Jackson is going to do. Because there are lots of elements of this that that Iโve disagreed with, from his standpoint, even just from the standpoint of if you run into a fully guaranteed deal, I said over and over to me the time to make that play was last summer, before he had a second straight year where he finished with an injury and wasnโt able to finish the season. And now people talk about that more and more. But itโs all of those variables tied in together. And look, we can sit here as fans or media and my goodness, you see a ton of it, especially a ton of former players, just saying over and over again. The Ravens need to give Lamar what he wants, but you know, theyโre disrespecting him yada, yada, yada all the conjecture and all the opinions that we hear and look, everyoneโs entitled to their opinion. But the reality is, other than saying, Oh, it only takes one team. And weโve all said that. Iโve said that too. But until thatโs there, this is what it is. He has, we assume the Ravens last offer to him, whatever that might have been, you know, at some point earlier this offseason, and heโs, heโs hoping, and certainly announcing his trade request making that public two and a half weeks after he had done that, him tweeting that out last week. Heโs hoping to drum up some interest, whether itโs to leave, whether itโs truly him wanting out, or whether itโs just to push the ravens to up their offer. And until that happens, we can all sit here and say that he deserves this or heโs better than Deshaun Watson and going through and look, those things can be true, but itโs dictated by the market. And the market is made as the silence is deafening right now. Right. I mean, it really is, in terms of what heโs asking for in terms of the trade compensation in terms of a lack of an agent, in terms of the injuries the last couple of years, in terms of going all the way back to pre draft perceptions of him as far as how many teams passed on him on draft night. Now, how many of those teams were wrong? How many of those teams would have made a really smart decision by drafting Lamar back in 2018? And doing what the Ravens did over the last five years? Absolutely. There are teams that should have done that. But we all have our biases, and, you know, people that canโt get out of their own way there. There are franchises that you kind of you pull back the curtain you see why they havenโt had any success for decades. But we can list all those different factors. The reality is Lamar Jackson doesnโt have anyone else thatโs seriously sniffing around him at this point unless they have been so sneaky about it. that theyโre completely under the radar. We can keep pointing to Indy but Jim Irsay said what he said, Chris Ballard has said what he said. And until they do something, and letโs be clear, as weโre getting closer and closer to the draft, even if they have some designs of pursuing Lamar Jackson, closer we get to the draft, the more it makes sense for them to say, well, weโll wait. And then weโll weโll give up. Yeah, well, weโll do our full court press and try to give up the 2024 and 2025, which, if Lamar Jackson is our quarterback, weโre probably not gonna be picking fourth overall. So and even if youโre not a huge Lamar fan, he heโs won every every, every team heโs played on, heโs won in the NFL and won a lot as a Baltimore Ravens. So thatโs where you just keep looking at this thing and saying, whatโs going to change? You know, I think when he tweeted out his trade requests, the news of that, I think there was the shock, there was this unsettling feeling. There was this, oh, my gosh, the you know, whatโs getting ready to hit the fan. But then you process it for a few hours. And you realize, how is that really all that different than the non exclusive offer sheet process? Itโs kind of itโs the same thing, really, other than just saying, okay, maybe we can forego that by just trading with the ravens and acquiring his rights after he signs the tag. Other than that, yeah, weโre kind of just in the same place that weโve been in. And weโre waiting for tweets and updates from Lamar or anything else to happen. And, you know, itโs just been a whole lot of nothing as it pertains to teams really looking like theyโre after him. And again, does that change as we get closer to the draft? Or maybe get on the other side? Hypothetically, it could. But again, how are teams clearing the necessary cap space, this deep into the offseason? In order to do that? I think that element is something that a lot of people have undersold in terms of the challenge of doing that, so can it be done? Sure. Iโm not gonna say itโs impossible. But with each day, I just keep asking, whoโs the suitor whoโs changing the narrative here, and thatโs where I just keep coming back to Lamar and the Ravens kind of, for lack of a better term being stuck with one another whether one or both sides would much prefer moving on. If theyโre being honest. Jim Jones
Nestor Aparicio 32:16
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