Working with local people who need a job to help find the right one

There are success stories all over Baltimore about putting people back to work after the pandemic and Renee Barnes of the Baltimore County Workforce Development – located a block from his childhood home near Eastpoint Mall in Dundalk – is always a reach away for local folks who want and need to work in our region.

Nestor Aparicio discusses Baltimore County’s Workforce Development with Renee Barnes, highlighting the services provided at the East Point Mall center. Renee, a 15-year county employee, details the center’s role in job placement, resume assistance, and job training, including partnerships with CCBC for GED and certification programs. They address the challenges of transportation and digital literacy for job seekers. Success stories include a client who transitioned from a homemaker to a medical assistant at Johns Hopkins and another who secured a job at McDonald’s through the mobile Career Center. The centers also offer resources for those needing basic career services, regardless of residency.

• [ ] Schedule and run the Mobile Career Center event targeting Owings Mills at CCBC in March (confirm date, location logistics, and staffing for the event).
• [ ] Publish and promote the Owings Mills Mobile Career Center event on the Baltimore County Workforce Development Facebook page (post event details and promotional materials).
• [ ] Receive and manage booking requests for the Mobile Career Center via the BCoWorks email (bco.works@baltimorecountymd.gov) and respond to service booking inquiries.

Outline

Welcome to Baltimore Positive

• Nestor Aparicio welcomes listeners to Baltimore Positive, a radio show broadcasting from Baltimore City.
• The show is sponsored by the Maryland Lottery, GBMC, and other local partners.
• Nestor mentions upcoming events and locations for the show, including Koco’s, Pizza John’s, and Costa Simsimium.
• Nestor introduces a new sponsor, Dave Copenhaver, and Renee Barnes, the workforce center manager at East Point Mall.

Introduction to Renee Barnes and Workforce Development

• Nestor and Renee discuss their connections to East Point Mall, where Renee works.
• Renee has been with Baltimore County for 15 years, working in various roles including workforce development.
• Nestor shares his personal history with East Point Mall, where he used to work and shop.
• Renee explains that their center is located across the street from the Goodwill Center, a familiar location for Nestor.

Services and Locations of Workforce Development Centers

• Renee details the services provided by the workforce development centers, including job search resources, resume assistance, and job training.
• The centers are located in East Point, Randallstown, and Hunt Valley, with the Hunt Valley center co-located with CCBC.
• Nestor and Renee discuss the importance of community colleges and workforce development in providing job training and education.
• Renee highlights the role of CCBC as a partner in providing GED help and other educational services.

Challenges and Needs of Clients

• Nestor and Renee discuss the types of clients who seek their services, including those looking to change careers or needing job development resources.
• Renee emphasizes the importance of clients feeling heard and supported, as many are dealing with significant life changes and challenges.
• The conversation touches on the digital literacy skills required for job searches and the importance of having access to technology.
• Nestor shares personal anecdotes about the challenges of finding and keeping jobs, especially for those without reliable transportation.

Mobile Career Centers and Community Outreach

• Renee introduces the concept of mobile Career Centers, which bring workforce development services directly to communities.
• The mobile units help address transportation barriers and provide job search assistance in areas with high unemployment.
• Nestor and Renee discuss the importance of making job opportunities accessible to everyone, regardless of their location.
• Renee shares success stories of clients who have benefited from the mobile Career Centers and the support they received.

Success Stories and Client Testimonials

• Renee shares a story about a client who lost her husband and needed to find a job to support her family.
• With the help of the workforce development center, the client received training and certification, leading to a job at Johns Hopkins.
• Another success story involves a client who wanted to work at McDonald’s and was helped by the workforce development center to secure a job.
• Nestor and Renee discuss the importance of advocacy and support in helping clients find employment.

Community Engagement and Future Plans

• Renee talks about the neighborhood series, where the mobile Career Centers target areas with high unemployment and provide job fairs and career services.
• The conversation highlights the need for continued community engagement and outreach to ensure everyone has access to job opportunities.
• Nestor and Renee discuss the challenges of transportation and the importance of making job resources accessible to all residents.
• Renee provides information on how to contact the workforce development centers and the mobile Career Centers for assistance.

Closing Remarks and Contact Information

• Nestor thanks Renee for her insights and emphasizes the importance of workforce development in Baltimore County.
• Renee provides contact information for the workforce development centers and the mobile Career Centers.
• Nestor mentions upcoming events and locations for the show, encouraging listeners to attend and participate.
• The conversation concludes with a light-hearted discussion about food and community events, highlighting the importance of supporting local businesses and organizations.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Baltimore County Workforce Development, East Point Mall, job training, career services, mobile Career Center, digital literacy, unemployment resources, community colleges, job placement, transportation issues, food stability, career pathways, job fairs, workforce development centers, career guidance.

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SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Renee Barnes

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, A of 1570, tacit Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively in one of the positive places here in Baltimore City. We are back in lauraville, right around the corner from Morgan State University, and, most importantly, right around the corner from my childhood second home on Tyndale Avenue and racig. Will be here off Eastwood lane a little later on. Everybody’s getting the candy cane cash. I’ve been scanning some tickets. I haven’t I did have a $3 winner here today. Koco’s will be Thursday will be over pizza John’s in Essex. Friday will be at Costa, simsimonium, all doing a cup of Super Bowl. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. In conjunction with our friends at GBMC and farnand and Derner. We Dermer, excuse me, we have a new sponsor here. I was wearing my baby blue this morning. We were midway through the week and meeting new people and my old buddy, Dave Copenhaver, who I knew through Ed block a million years ago. He lived in a y came back. He saw my shout out last week on LinkedIn and on Facebook, and these days, with all the people we got, I just yell one time, and I fill up my dance card here. And Renee Barnes has come over from a place that is incredibly familiar to me, because company ever says it’s over, he says, Renee Barnes workforce center manager, and that’s cool, but at East Point, and there’s only one East Point, there’s an East port that’s down in Annapolis, the only one East Point, and I had some I was a mall rat. East Point, mall 70s, 80s, my kid was a mall rat in the 90s. Any odds? 7930 Eastern Avenue, that is. That’s home to me. So Baltimore County Department of Economic and worse, force development. So you work for the county?

Renee Barnes  01:41

Then yes, yes, I do. I’ve been with the county 15 years now.

Nestor Aparicio  01:44

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So that’s you see Jim Smith, Kevin Kamenetz, Don Moeller, and then Johnny O and now Kathy. So I mean, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re one of us. I’m a Baltimore County resident, taxpayer. We’re a Baltimore County what is the workforce development going on at East Point mall, because I’ll be honest with you, I have my dentist over there. My first job was at East Point mall, sound waves. East Point mall at the record store there. Where are you in the actual mall area?

Renee Barnes  02:10

No, no, no. Actually, we’re located across the street, directly across from the goodwill center that’s also located, and

Nestor Aparicio  02:17

that was luskins when I was a kid. Whoa, I didn’t know anything about that well, so I grew up on Bank Street, okay, one block over, two blocks up from where the church is in St Peter’s Church. So you got your Dunkin Donuts there on the corner, whatnot. But that, literally, my son lives a block and a half from where you go to work every day. Wow.

Renee Barnes  02:37

Wow. I mean, fun fact, our center used to be the unemployment center, so a lot of folks remember that location specifically as a location where they would come to apply for unemployment. You gotta go down unemployment. You gotta go down unemployment. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Now we are in reap Employment Center, one of three centers that we have located in Baltimore County. All right, so where are the other ones? Okay, so we have the one in East Point. Obviously there’s one in Randallstown, off liberty.

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Nestor Aparicio  03:05

You worked there before me? Yes,

Renee Barnes  03:08

I did, actually once back in the day, it used to be a giant food supermarket. It also used to be an aquarium center, before we had the big stores, Petco and Pet Smart and so forth. So any somebody will remember that, yes,

Nestor Aparicio  03:24

Colgate, which is Dundalk, Dundalk Essex area, and then where’s the other one?

Renee Barnes  03:27

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Okay, our central location is located in Hunt Valley, off McCormick road. Okay, yes, it’s across from the business park, actually, right off of the light rail. So you get light rail right up. Yes, we’re co located with CCBC, as well as the Randallstown

Nestor Aparicio  03:42

graduate, yes, to hear about my days at Dundalk Community College. They don’t call it that anymore, but you know, so workforce development. And I mentioned the community colleges and so many of my friends went to Essex Dundalk tracks to have an AA or but, but then there’s workforce development. Other points, I we hear so much about jobs, job development, trade point, Atlantic and different things like that. You’re looking to place people. People come to you for what they’re out of work, obviously, or maybe you want to change their career, correct, right?

Renee Barnes  04:12

So they absolutely people who are willing to change their careers, people who just need job development resources. Like, Oh, I need someone to take a look at my resume. Oh, I need some job search resources, or, you know, direction. I want to work with a case manager. I need job training, because that’s the last step, the last piece to my employment goal, certification. Absolutely. One of our closest partners are CCBC. So we will refer our clients to CCBC to receive that level of service for GED help.

Nestor Aparicio  04:45

How often do people come in and say to you on a daily basis, something happened in my life, something took me off the tracks. You know, I didn’t get my degree or whatever. I feel so bad. I’m 57 I graduated Dundalk High School. Went to college and did my thing, and so many other people long life’s high wave had issues, whatever those issues are, but they’re still adults. They want to participate. And they say, Well, you got to have this kind of training or this kind of job. They come to you that pathway did say, Why do you know I did this? I did that. Maybe messed up, whatever I did, but I want to go back and get my degree. Yes. I’m sure you see people in the 30s, 40s, 50s, like yes, all ages,

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Renee Barnes  05:24

yes, all the time. So

Nestor Aparicio  05:25

what is that pathway for somebody like that they come to you? What’s the most common thing that people come into your Workforce Development Center for?

Renee Barnes  05:32

Well, the first thing is they want to be heard. They want to get in front of somebody and just be heard. You know, everyone that comes into a career center is dealing with loss, you know. So they need direction. They need support. There’s a little bit of a trauma place, right? Oh, okay, yeah, not to lay the heavy Well, you know, but it’s true. But on the flip,

Nestor Aparicio  05:56

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you know, we’re it would stress anybody out,

Renee Barnes  05:58

yes, on the on the flip side of that, it creates a space that is like the best space for life changing events. Because people come in, they don’t have any money to buy food, they can’t take care of their children, you know, they don’t have digital literacy skills to even look so that’s a hurdle for them up front. You know, our job search process has changed so much, to walking into a business and filling out a paper application, to having to have digital literacy skills to get on the computer understand what the employer is asking,

Nestor Aparicio  06:33

we have to have money to have a phone to even access this, right? And I think that that’s sort of lost on some people, that the phone has become it’s mandatory. I mean, and if you’re going to somebody’s going to try to employ you, that’s how they’re going to try to contact you as well, right?

Renee Barnes  06:48

And Nestor, I’m glad you brought up the phone, because most of our clients, you know, everyone walks around with a phone. That’s the easiest resource or tool that they can access, to communicate, to apply for work. What makes us a notch above just having that phone resources that you’re able to come into our centers, work at a computer kiosk in a professional environment with career services, this is what I that can guide and lead to build an IEP.

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Nestor Aparicio  07:14

I come into you. You know, I don’t have a phone. You say, we take it right, right here in the back. But they need to know how to type. They need to have a read. What do you people that don’t know how to read that that’s another that’s another place you can send them. Right? Yes, you don’t turn anybody away. We don’t turn anyone away. I hear that so much this week. I want to make that clear to everybody that resources out there, people in the down and out, people you may know around you that have had whatever the bomb cyclone to their work. I mean, I had friends this morning. Guys sat here for, you know, all my life, Washington Post today decide, you know, they got rid of a third of their staff today. So that’s journalists, that’s people train. They got degrees. They’re out of work too, right? And they need so, I would say people want hope when they come to you right away, right? So the idea is, point A to point B, you get them where they are, right, wherever they are, yes.

Renee Barnes  08:07

I also wanted to mention that, in addition to the three centers that we have, we have two mobile Career Center units.

Nestor Aparicio  08:14

I saw that Yes. It was

Renee Barnes  08:17

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like, pub, yes, yes. It’s very obnoxious. What is that, right?

Nestor Aparicio  08:21

So they you drive that out into other areas, malls, other than the three areas, and say, we’re going to have the mobile job at White Marsh Town Center, or something like that, right? Absolutely.

Renee Barnes  08:34

We have found that the last mile theory is the hurdle that keeps the talent away from the opportunity, right? And last mile, meaning, yes, we go to them. We go to them. Last Mile, meaning the last hurdle of the race is typically the hardest, which is so close, yet the last mile for some of our clients is, hey, I don’t know how to prep a resume us going into the community and providing that service could be the step or the next resource that can push them into employment last mile, meaning, oh, it takes two hours on the bus to get to the Career Center. You know, we go the career center goes out to communities where transportation may be, you know, an issue.

Nestor Aparicio  09:16

Let’s get you a job closer to where you live. Yes, now, if somebody lives in the city or is a city resident, you’re a County Workforce Development. We are. Do you have to be a county resident to come in like, like a library card?

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Renee Barnes  09:31

No, not exactly like a library card, to receive those basic Career Services. Anyone could come in and receive those services. Now, if you want to be considered for career training, you have to go in a jurisdiction where you live to be considered right?

Nestor Aparicio  09:45

So you would send them to the city off the city for you.

Renee Barnes  09:49

Yeah, all of our workforce development office pretty much works the same.

Nestor Aparicio  09:53

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So I grew up where you are, right on the bus line because of the mall, obviously people being able to get to you. Two off the 23 bus. I know that pretty well. So my dad never drove, so he took the 23 bus everywhere, out in front of us, in front of them all, but people being able to get to you. The thing that I hear so much about food deserts, one in the city, people not being able to access good food, but being able to get a job and not having a car, having transportation, public transportation. Laugh. Talk to Department of Transportation out of Maryland, whether Wes Moore is running the state, Larry Hogan, that matter who it is, transportation is difficult in our city, more so than in other places. You know, I you go to places with subways or New York or big cities, cities that are easier, easier. DC has subway people can get to places here, it’s a little bit more of a challenge. And I would think, for where you are, people can get to you on the bus line to get workforce development, but to get their job, you always want to be, got to be on time, right? I mean, yeah, be on time if the bus isn’t. And Lord knows what the snow I get. The last couple weeks have been horrible,

Renee Barnes  11:01

yes, yes, yes, I’ve been there Nestor, even when I started employment here as a temp employee. Yes, I didn’t have a car. Okay, it took me two hours from Towson to get to the Career Center. So I know all about that. A lot of things that residents face right now is that they’ll get that job that they’re able to pay their basic necessities with, like the rent, the childcare, maybe some food, maybe not. The most healthiest thing.

Nestor Aparicio  11:31

You know, Maryland Food Bank and people are been, yeah, donations this week. And, you know, we take food for granted. We had a beautiful lunch here at Koco’s, a cup of crabs, Maryland, crabs. Or excuse me, cream of crab soup. But for other people this, we take these things for granted. You see a, you know, you see a side of life every day where you’re trying to help

Renee Barnes  11:49

people absolutely, we’re trying to give them the space to upskill so that they can build a career where they can have that food stability.

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Nestor Aparicio  11:57

Give me a success story. You’ve been doing this 15 years, I’m sure, maybe even in life’s highway, because it’s Baltimore and small to more you help somebody a year later, two years that you run into them, I’m sure that you say, counselor. I think a guidance counselor’s being the best people I ever met in my life, people that Mr. Rogers say, look for the helpers, right? Yeah, you go to work every day. You’re paid for it, but you’re helping people. I’m sure people come back with incredible stories for you, and probably warms your heart to give me some stories.

Renee Barnes  12:27

Yeah, actually, I’ll give you a story from a position. When I first started, when I was working directly in basic Career Services, I’m a supervisor now, okay, however

Nestor Aparicio  12:38

you at Randallstown. Then, yes, I

Renee Barnes  12:41

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was, I was, do you remember me? We

Nestor Aparicio  12:45

had lunch together. I learned about that.

Renee Barnes  12:47

Okay, I had an individual. She just lost her husband. They just relocated here to the States. He was in IT field, so his job sent them here to work. Okay, she was a homemaker, so she didn’t have a background in pretty much anything other than taking care of the home, which is a strong skills getting skill set. Now, you know there are a lot of transferable skills there, so my mom, Career Center to all the homemakers, will be able to explain to you how to make a beautiful resume.

Nestor Aparicio  13:17

Did I turn out? All right, great. All right. My mom, Bank Street. She described herself for all of her life as a homemaker, and then so what she made was me, right? So that’s what homemaker does, right?

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Renee Barnes  13:31

Yeah, absolutely, they rule the world, yes. So she lost, she lost her husband, so she had to find a way to take care of children. Her newborn, oh, wow, she lacked English speaking skills. So connecting with me, we were able to partner with CCBC, ESOL, Esau program, yes, along with Esau, we were able to connect her one about with our case managers, Annie, who was able to assist her with connecting with CNA, GNA program, that was her entry way into healthcare. Right along with that, she went on a career letter. She went to the next step, got her medical assistant, all the other certifications beyond that, she landed a job at John Hopkins, where John Hopkins, hello, I like it. Employee Benefits. They had educational assistance included in their benefits. So now that same client was able to

Nestor Aparicio  14:29

start education degree. All right,

Renee Barnes  14:33

she’s earning her degree. Now. Let’s work at the hospital. It’s awesome people coming off the street and yeah, that probably was one of my hardest cases, because you’re dealing with someone with limited English, no work, you know, additional work background, you know, their support system, a lot of loss, a newborn baby. All that we were saying.

Nestor Aparicio  14:56

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St Renee Barnes is here. She’s a workforce center. She’s. Mean, there are so

Renee Barnes  15:01

many possibilities a short story, right? Okay, so we were on the mobile Career Center. We were out for the we were out at the Center for Urban families. You know, the mobile Career Center, we have started what we call the neighborhood series, targeting neighborhoods that have been identified with high levels of unemployment or just a community that even of workers who are struggling, you know, just making enough money to pay the rent, the basic necessities and so forth. So we were out at this partner. We were hosting a mini job fair, you know, from the part Center for Urban families. We also had the MCC out front providing career services on site. We had an individual get on the bus, and she wasn’t asking for much. She just needed a right now job. I think she was collecting some other benefits that she just needed to marry with, maybe a part time employment. Her desire was something that individuals may find easy. Hey, I just want to work at McDonald’s. I just need to make this amount of money. I’ve applied for the job, I didn’t hear back. I’m not getting anywhere. Just my business service representative, Chris, he walked over five minute conversation with the manager. Hey, I’m working with this individual with Baltimore County Workforce Development Center. We’re out here hosting Career Services. You know, in the shopping center today, we want to let you know that we’re here. We want to also let you know that we can support you in any employment efforts, and McDonald’s has any openings. You know, we can help find some talent for you. As a matter of fact, we have a young lady here who has a desire to work for your company. She came on, right on, and said, I have a driving desire to work with McDonald’s.

Nestor Aparicio  16:41

Yes, something about people. Let me fast food places, right? Something work harder, training people, right?

Renee Barnes  16:46

Something about the algorithm, maybe, or the applicant, electronic application.

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Nestor Aparicio  16:51

Dundalk, your first job was at the East Point mall, McDonald’s. Hello. I mean, Cheryl, Shonda, everybody I knew Chris. They all worked at the sometimes a guy Free French fry at him. But you know, that was 40 years ago,

Renee Barnes  17:02

something about the mistake, and maybe in the electronic application, maybe in the algorithm, the resume wasn’t catching, you know, the eye, but when the manager was able to meet face to face, able to hear our story as an advocate for the young lady, she was considered the young lady works at McDonald’s.

Nestor Aparicio  17:18

You’re an advocacy group. I didn’t thought about that just so about, by the way, they’re at East Point. But there’s three locations, location Hunt Valley, location in Randallstown, Renee, has been kind enough to come over from my homeland of Colgate, East Point, right, right, literally, in the in the bricks of my neighborhood, same side of the street, the whole deal, when you set up a job fair, and people come out. How many employers in Baltimore County reach to you and say, Get us some people in here. People come in there. If they’re ready to work, let’s put them to work. Because I know, especially after covid, everybody had to help. Wanted sign up, and we didn’t have enough people taking jobs.

Renee Barnes  17:58

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Absolutely, Baltimore County, and also our neighboring counties keep us very busy. Okay, you know the city we we surround Baltimore City, so we also do a lot of work with employers. There you have jobs period. Oh yeah, jobs are out there. The problem is just

Nestor Aparicio  18:17

don’t work out for me here on the radio, I call you, know, right?

Renee Barnes  18:21

I think you mentioned it earlier. You know, with your conversations with the governor and the transportation, transportation issue, people just need access to resources. We have the talent out here. We have the resources out here. We have the mobile Career Center that closes that last mile gap for you know, residents who are looking for work in you know, may have, may have never heard of

Nestor Aparicio  18:45

that post up in neighborhoods. You said the mobiles coming on the 13th of the month or whatever. Yeah, it’ll be here. One to four come by. Learn how to get a job. Workforce development will help you. Yes, I don’t know about the computers and stuff. I I haven’t done a resume like tried to get a gig in forever, and I I wouldn’t. When I see the monsters and I see the insight, I see all of these TV commercials about getting a job. Indeed, get it, indeed. Josh obvi, I wouldn’t other than LinkedIn and saying, hey, I can, you know, I would go to LinkedIn. Now I’m of the mindset. One of the best employees I ever hired. I put an ad to paper, right, right? Help Wanted, right?

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Renee Barnes  19:27

Yes. Literally, way back I remember

Nestor Aparicio  19:31

about modern, you know, other than the friends and family networkers, hey, I got a job. You know, send me a resume or whatever. But posting jobs, hosting jobs, chasing jobs. It’s all I see on LinkedIn, you know, in the professional environment, but I can’t think along the lines of McDonald’s or fast food places or entry level positions. They come to state employers, right? Like folks like you, people involved in government to funnel help their. Way, right?

Renee Barnes  20:00

Yes, everyone has a need. Everyone,

Nestor Aparicio  20:03

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well, let’s go get a job. Let’s get working today. Workforce development over at East Point mall, my old neighborhood, tell everybody how they can find you, or if they know someone, or they got to put a foot up somebody’s backside to get them working. Get them back out working again. Get off the couch. Winter’s over. You’re there to help them in any way.

Renee Barnes  20:21

Yes, once again, we have three locations in Baltimore County. We have workforce development located in Randallstown. That is at 3637 off it road. We have our location in Hunt Valley at 11101, McCormick road. And we have the awesome East Point Career Center at 7930, Eastern Avenue, located at that location, come in and see me as well as look for me in the community on the big yellow and blue bus the mobile Career Center. We will be targeting Owings Mills next month in March. So we’ll have a big event at CCBC. Look out for the promotion on our Facebook page. And also, if you want to reach out to me directly to book services with the mobile unit, you can reach out to BCo, works at Baltimore County, md.gov,

Nestor Aparicio  21:11

she’s running, I think we got it all. Do we get it all in? Yeah, you know you went to Morgan, yes, and you’re from, like, this city college, absolutely, city forever. You know, you’re a real Baltimore person. So right, Copenhagen, you sent me the best over here. There she is. I give your whole title here, Workforce center manager at the East Point. Mobile Career Center Coordinator. And if you see the bright mobile bus out there that’s running around, looks like a bookmobile for adults. Yes, pretty much big RV. Bookmobile is one of my favorite things in the world back in the day when I had it. So I had it all going on. We’re at it here at Koco’s. I have to give you a lucky lottery ticket here, so I know what number I’m going to give you here. Candy Cane cash number 20. I feel 20

Renee Barnes  21:54

right, and is 30,000 I’m winning $3

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Nestor Aparicio  22:01

we’re gonna be on Thursday at Pizza John’s in Essex on our side of town. Friday, we’re gonna be uptown and cost us in in Timonium, not the Costas in Dundalk. We’re here at beautiful Koco’s right now. I went off the menu today. Renee had a bowl of cream of crab soup, which usually I get. Usually get a cup. I usually get a Greek salad, and then I usually get coconut shrimp. Today filled my belly with the burger. So I went with a burger, and with the I went with the Caesar salad. So my wife’s gonna get some soup on the way home. We’re gonna have some crab cakes on the way home. Marcel is here. We’re six to stop it by later. I have all sorts of cool stuff we’re doing. Some folks have dropped off chicken, natural chicken. It’s like chicken to the sea in a can. I don’t but they’re making chicken salad out here in cans. We’re gonna be donating all that to project place. I met these two nice young ladies over the West Side Wilkins Avenue. They came and did the show over at over El Guapo, and they smiled the right way at me, and I’m like, I’m giving you all the food this week. So that’s that Maryland food banks give me a drive after the west side of town on Saturday morning. Might even get me some extra pastries out of that, because I’m gonna want to eat when a week is over. Back for more Koco’s. We’re doing good deeds around here. It’s all brought to you by our friends at the Maryland lottery, in conjunction with GPMC and far in the Dermer as well, we are the Maryland crab cake tub crab cake tour and a cup of soup or bowl. I’ll get some water and fix it all back for more right after this on Baltimore positive, stay with us.