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Local musician and wanderlust traveler Jason Siemer takes us through three weeks of an African safari bucket list journey. From capturing the wildlife and real life of Kenya and Tanzania through his lens and into the sky across the Serengeti, let the leader of the local band Bad With Names tell you how he’s become good with finding remote places on the planet like the Faroe Islands and Patagonia to sharpen his eye.

Nestor Aparicio interviews Jason Siemer, a local musician and photographer, about his recent African safari. Jason, who has a passion for travel and photography, shares his experiences in Kenya and Tanzania, highlighting the beauty and challenges of capturing wildlife. He emphasizes the importance of planning and safety, having used G Adventures tours. Jason also reflects on his career transition from baseball video production to photography, and discusses his future travel aspirations, including Madagascar. The conversation touches on the emotional impact of travel and the importance of cultural sensitivity.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

African safari, Maryland lottery, Cooper’s North, Harford County, bad with names, Kenyan photos, G Adventures, hot air balloon, Serengeti, Tanzania, wildlife photography, travel experiences, bucket list, cultural immersion, travel tips

SPEAKERS

Jason Siemer, Nestor Aparicio

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We’re here at State Fair. It is a cup of soup or bowl. I have a bowl of Maryland. Excuse me, cream of crab soup. Pretty delish. I have one bite of it. This guy’s gonna do a lot of talking, so I’m gonna be able to eat it’s our final segment of the day here. We’re at State Fair. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. By the Maryland lottery at the Locky magic eight ball. I’ve been scratching that off. We got a big game going on this weekend. One day left at Cooper’s North we’ve had a lot of celebs, a lot of fun, a lot of charity, a lot of community stuff, fun stories, allowing me to stretch out and have a good time here. This week, we’ll wrap things up at Cooper’s next week, back to our regularly scheduled Maryland crap geek tour will be at libs grill in Bel Air Harford County Executive Bob Cassidy will be my guest as well. Joe slip up, show me be telling old barn stories and Raven stories. This guy and I have old Orioles stories. I think I met him 30 some odd years ago. What I always think you’re a lot younger than me, but I don’t think you really are, but we’re gonna figure this out. Jason seamer is a local rock star, musician, photographer, bon vivant, wanderlust, man who is just back from his African expedition shooting photos of safari in places like Kenya. He’s been my friend for a long time. He plays rock and roll in a band called bad with names. I am good with names. He’s Jason seamer of Canton, Maryland, but shooting pictures in Kenya. Welcome back, fellow wanderlust guy. You know, you travel the world, taking these pictures and stuff, doing things that I want to do, or my wife wants to do, but you’re such a great photographer that you become sort of immersed in that. That I often wonder, Is he having fun out there, or is taking the pictures part of the fun, because it reminds me a little bit like when you go to the concert and everybody’s holding the camera on the band instead of, like jamming. So I that would be my first question. Even second thing is, dude, you took unbelievable pictures. And there’s a million people that have been Africa taking millions and millions of pictures, but they’re your pictures. They’re your images. And I know your soul a little bit about the Wanderlust, I would think that you were very, very pleased with how your African adventure worked out, being that you spent most your life planning it

Jason Siemer  02:09

Right, absolutely. I mean, the first thing I want to address is what you said about the first of all, thanks for having me. Yeah, what you said about taking photos and still enjoying yourself? The answer is, I enjoy everything equally. Like the fact that I’m taking photos and being there, kind of all mixes together. And people say that they’re like, oh, you know, put the camera down once in a while. When you come home, you get to experience it again and again, the rest of your life, totally, but also, like, when I’m in that moment and I’m taking a photo and I have, like, something framed up through the lens, I’m actually, like, I’m feeling that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there’s a connection there. So then, don’t worry, like, once I once I have my shot, I put the camera down, then I see it with my own eyes, and I appreciate it on that level also. And then I have that photo to relive when I come home.

Nestor Aparicio  03:01

So those, those giraffes as an example, you see them, Wow, holy hell is giraffe. You do six minutes of that, and the dress will stand in there after six, right? And then, this is cool. But once you get your you satiate, you get the shot, yeah, and then you chill out a little

Jason Siemer  03:19

bit. But also, like, part of the fun for me is like waiting for that giraffe to do, to get in a certain position, or to get framed. I do

Nestor Aparicio  03:26

that with birds. I had that this morning, like my wife has, um, the bird feeder, and we get blue birds. And this morning, you know, I tried, I got a couple of decent, well, you know, nothing great, but some, at one point, they all sit up and look at you, and that’s the one. So you try to get 50 of them, just like there’s the good one, there are. These are the two good ones. I got a couple. See my little blue bird. So I am, I am a shutter shooter. I have, I liked it. You see my pictures, I I think I have an eye for it. Sure. I don’t have your equipment. Let’s start with that in Africa to take those kinds of images. But I think a cell phone would be fine. But my wife loves photography. She admires you and watches your thing. She wants to do the African thing. And for some people, that’s the most exotic thing they’ll ever do. Ever for you, it’s a panorama of other exotic things you’ve done Thailand, you’ve done New Zealand, Patagonia, where does the African thing lie for you? This is for my wife, or anybody considering going to Africa, including the man who saved her life, that it feels pricey, distant, long, I wouldn’t know the right way to do it. Dude, you’re jumping at a hot air balloon. I mean, the amount of research you went into. Did you borrow someone else’s idea, or did you spend eight months researching this?

Jason Siemer  04:46

Well, that’s this thing kind of started like years ago, with the first time I went to New Zealand. I did a group tour with a company called Contiki.

Nestor Aparicio  04:54

I did a Contiki tour. Okay, yeah, young girls under 35 discos. Yeah, oh, the trip of my life, until, I mean, I had another one. It

Jason Siemer  05:04

was great. But I was telling people on this, the last trip that I did, that that type of trip was interesting at the time, because I was in probably my early 30s. But I’m not into all that. Like it was just go, go, go and a party. And I was seeing things that I, you know, had never seen, and they blew my mind, like the landscapes of New Zealand, and that actually got me hooked on, like, going to really far off places, but now it’s more about, like, the photography and smaller group tours. So I’ve been using this company called G adventures, and they’re affiliated with National Geographic, so they do, like, really good, high quality.

Nestor Aparicio  05:42

So you were on a tour? Yeah, okay, you

Jason Siemer  05:45

know, these days, Nestor like done with all that crazy stuff. I am a piece or together.

Nestor Aparicio  05:49

I don’t ever I may do a day trip or get on a boat or I thing that you excursion, as they would call it on the cruises or whatever. But I’m not a cruise guy. I’m not a doc guy. I’m, I just, yeah, I’m, uh, I’m, I do it myself. Yeah, I don’t think I’d like that, but I like what you did. So that’s why I want to hear I don’t think I could do Africa alone. I would have to find what.

Jason Siemer  06:11

Here’s the thing. He’s gonna be most of these tours I’ve done, I’ve probably done like four or 5g adventure tours in various parts of the world, and what I do is I use that as, kind of like the anchor for the rest of the tour. So it’s a good chance, like, if you’ve never been to that part of the world, to go that way, you have, like, a group that you know you’re going to be with, and

Nestor Aparicio  06:28

you’re safe, and there’s a structure of that. There’s the beginning in the end, and then during

Jason Siemer  06:32

that time, you’re you’re learning, like the local have, how people go about things, the money, the traditions, like just the way of life, and then you’re meeting these guides that are like, from there. So they can kind of like, tell you what things are like, and then give you suggestions on, like, where to go after that, what’s safe, what not to do. And basically, like, people just open doors for you, and then you just kind of go through them, because you take recommendations from people that you trust at that point, you know. So then you’re just like, Okay, I’m gonna go do this. And I have this now because I’m acclimated to the country, and I can, like, feel more confident now, kind of like going off on my own after that. How long were you over there? Three weeks, three weeks, okay, in East Africa, yeah, three weeks

Nestor Aparicio  07:10

in East Africa. And you put months into this, yeah. How much of it was tour involved? A week,

Jason Siemer  07:17

no. So it was like two and a half weeks of tour, and then I came home. So so in this particular trip, I didn’t go off on my own, because I learned that in order to do that, you to see the animals and to do all these things, it kind of has to be more lined up and put together. You can’t just go off because, like, it’s not safe, like, and I’m not saying from like, like, being afraid of your life kind of thing, but you still, you still need

Nestor Aparicio  07:45

people. There’s no gas station out there, there’s no food out there. Yeah, yeah, you need people. And

Jason Siemer  07:50

you also have you go to these places, and literally, there’s wild animals and, like, it’s not safe to just walk around out in the wilderness. Obviously, like to have a guide, to have somebody driving a car, maybe set up, you know, make take you to a safe campsite, things like that, like you, this was the type of tour that you kind

Nestor Aparicio  08:04

of need, that you love. I felt you felt safe. You felt good, totally.

Jason Siemer  08:09

But, but I don’t think I could have just run in a car and gone off. Oh, I don’t think you could do that. But other places I have, but not, not for this one, and I needed to learn that when I got there. So I’m glad that I stayed close to home base with my group. If I were to go back, I still wouldn’t rent a car to go around, like, yeah, unless I really met some locals that, like, brought me in and took care of me, I

Nestor Aparicio  08:29

don’t know that I would know where to start, other than, you know, with Oprah’s enchantment, you know, encounter or whatever. Yeah, and I’ve seen things stupid expensive over there, and I’ve seen things so inexpensive that it didn’t, it felt like that might not, that might not be legit or safe. Yeah, my wife put effort into this. Back in 2010 we were going to do the World Cup in South Africa. We had two other couples and a friend who were willing to do it. I was Budweiser sponsored at the time, so I had the ability to get tickets. Remember the US played well in oh 206, not so good. We went to Germany. Loved the World Cup in Germany. We were going to go to South Africa. The economy fell apart. All of our friends didn’t have the five, 810, grand. It was going to take the maybe go do it. But I did a lot of legwork through Dubai and air Emirates and into Johannesburg and praetoria and all of these South African places. But everyone said the best safaris were to go to Zimbabwe or to go to Kenya, and that’s pretty much what you did. Because we could have done Krueger and south and Johannesburg. And I was like, man, you know, I had looked at the Seychelles. I had looked at zinzibar, Zanzibar. I had looked at other things to do in that part of the world, that in 2000 and tennis 15 years ago, we never did it. I never made it, but I put a lot of effort into it, so I felt like I knew a little bit about it, and I knew enough to say, this is not something you’re gonna stay at the Super Eight and do on your own, any sort of way that you’re gonna need a group. And then it’s is. The $500 group, the $1,000 group, $2,500 group, you want to be at Oprah’s play, like, and then it became, like it was a little paralyzed by it, just saying, Well, I want to see the big five or, you know, whatever. And then I’m like, I can go to the zoo and do that, you know, to some degree, unless I’m feeling like I want to be in Africa. I think I wanted to be there 15 years ago. I think it feels rugged to me now. It feels like three weeks of that would be a lot of money, and maybe something that I would do, the little taste of it the easier way, but your way. I think the thing about it, Jason, is that I might never do it, and that’s what makes it so appealing to do it through your eyes, and what you on the show to talk

Jason Siemer  10:40

about, yeah, first of all, you’re here to talk me into it you should do. And I know I get messages from people when I’m doing this traveling, and they and I kind of like, I’m like, honored that they say these things that like, Hey, I’m following through your eyes, and I appreciate what you’re doing. But the thing that, like, kind of jars me a little bit is when they’re like, I’ll never do that. And I’m like, like, why? Like, I get it if you can’t physically do it. Or, like, maybe you have a job, or you can’t take off for three weeks. I’m lucky. I’m a freelancer, so that I can make my own schedule and tell my clients, hey, I’m not going to be around. Are you cool? Like, I still, like, kind of clear it with my clients. But January is usually when I travel because there’s not much going on.

Nestor Aparicio  11:21

And if you go south, you go to summer period. Is it hot? Yeah, it was

Jason Siemer  11:26

their dry season. It was probably 80s, but it was dry and dusty and definitely little uncomfortable at times. At night, it got really cold. Once that sun started blazing, it was like it was on. But I’m just saying, like, when, when people say I’ll never do that, I just, I become, like, a little disappointed, and I’m like, What’s holding you back? You know? And I get there’s different reasons, but what I hope that doesn’t hold people back is that, like, fear of, like, just stepping out of their comfort zone. Because, like, once you do that, and you realize that, and you and you make that effort, and you book the trip, and you get there and you’re standing in the middle of one of these places that you only saw on TV or in the movies. You just stand there and you’re like, I’m here. I

Nestor Aparicio  12:08

thought Yellowstone was that way as a grand place that I’ve been, yeah? And I, you know, I’ve been a lot of places that are, I mean, I’ve been to South Island and New Zealand. I’ve been to Australia, yeah, I’ve been on the Great Wall of China and Beijing, you know what

Jason Siemer  12:21

I mean? So that feeling, you know, when you’re there, you’re just like, oh my god, I’m here. I’m doing this. You know, I

Nestor Aparicio  12:25

love that feeling, yeah, I live for that. That’s that’s a jam for me. Thing I want to do Banff, you know, I the things I want to do now aren’t as sports oriented as they are experiential. I want to go to Royal Albert Hall, because there’s history there. I almost went to see Bryan Adams last year. Was so expensive. I was just like, was just like, London’s really expensive right now, like, really, like, three times more than you’d want to spend to do anything. And I’m like, at us go to New York and wait it out. You know, I’m a little bit of waited out. I’m gonna do South America. My friend Bruce, who just came by, had done Machu Picchu. But my bucket list places are, I mean, I’ve been Australia three times now, it was a dream to go once. I had a dream to go to one Super Bowl. I did 27 so there’s, there’s some of this. Like, I wanted to go to Wimbledon, yeah. And then I got offered tickets and a chance. And I’m like, not just a lot of money, even if you get me pants, Robert, get your tickets. It’s, it’s just a really expensive trip, sure. And I’m like, Nah, but I don’t want to go to Cleveland again. You know the fact that Chad Steele’s taking away my ability to go to New Orleans for the 18th time and be drunk in the streets there. I don’t need to do that. But my bucket list as I’m getting older is somehow shrinking in some way, like I think I’m gonna do all Alaska on a cruise one day. I think that’ll be a cruise thing that I would want to do. But I don’t have much. And if I had an unlimited amount of money, that you gave me a million dollars right now, and say, go do anything you want, travel anywhere you want, I would be cheap, you know? I would be like, I want to go see the Hollywood Bowl. I want to see a concert at the Hollywood Bowl. And go ahead, but I don’t want to see Notre Dame or the big house, or I don’t need to go to football games anymore. You went through that. You were a baseball nerd, right? Yeah, your background, what you dreamed about doing at 23 versus it, whatever you I don’t know, I

Jason Siemer  14:06

just turned 50. Okay, that’s kind of why I took this after big one. Like, you know, this is one I always wanted to do, but it was pretty expensive. I was like, but you know what? I got work lined up. I’ll be good

Nestor Aparicio  14:20

with your money? Yeah. I

Jason Siemer  14:22

mean, I don’t know what’s

Nestor Aparicio  14:24

left. Are you gonna go to Machu Picchu? Do you have any of these places or No, I

Jason Siemer  14:27

don’t. The whole hiking thing. Once I did Patagonia, I did the W truck there, that was like,

Nestor Aparicio  14:33

screwing Yeah, screw it, yeah. Different kind of grueling, absolutely incredible, if you got sick there or something, to be terrible. And that part of, I know Patagonia, it’s not, yeah, it’s not that’s

Jason Siemer  14:44

rugged. It was incredible. But I was, like, if I was in a group of people, of course, I’m carrying, like, lenses and cameras and stuff, because I, like, bring way too much, because I want to, I don’t want to be without a certain lens. If I have a, you know, how many did you not use, right? Well, I ended up, like, like, literally, this little embarrassed. Seem, but like, paying, like, one of the the guides, or whatever, like a little extra just to carry my lens, one of my bigger lenses for me, okay? Because I’m, like, struggling getting up these, like, mountains, and still, you’re getting older. You’re not 20, yeah, and like, you know, so I wouldn’t, I don’t know the whole hike thing. I’m not saying I don’t go on hikes when I do these things, or I won’t anymore, but like something extreme, like Machu Picchu or or Patagonia again, or even, like Kilimanjaro. People on my trip, in my group, had just done Kilimanjaro, like, the week before, and I’m

Nestor Aparicio  15:30

like, they’re real hikers, right? Yeah. I’m just like

Jason Siemer  15:33

last I’m always like the last guy, just as an example, you know

Nestor Aparicio  15:36

what? I mean, I’m never gonna play pickleball, yeah? Yeah. I mean, there’s just things I I could do that. I’m not going to do, yeah, physically, right? Because I could do something else. I’d rather do yoga. Jason semers here, he’s bad with names. He’s a rock star. He is a photographer. He is a wanderlust traveler who just got back from three weeks in eastern Africa taking beautiful pictures that you sell. Please promote television. You take pictures. A lot of you were at the Faroe Islands last year. I’ll give you a chance to talk about that. But you have picked, much like me, sort of weird things that you might want to do, really unique. I don’t know why I was in manapouri in southern New Zealand, other than it was there. And then there was like, well, we could do Milton sound, which is the tourist sound, or we can do doubtful sound, where we’re gonna freeze our ass off, go over a hill do all this. We did that one, you know, and it cost a little more, and we were like, Let’s do we’re going all the way to the southern part of New Zealand. We’re gonna do the rugged thing. Yeah. So I feel like I’m 56 now. I don’t need to be bougie or Gucci about any of this stuff, but I want to go back to Japan. That’s something that I love Japan. So I want to go back. I love Europe, but, you know, I want to do Scandinavia again at some point, but my things aren’t out in the fields. Because of your photography. I do live vicariously through you. I do think the African thing for me, what would you recommend for a tender foot of your part of your trip, was there a specific area in Kenya, Zimbabwe, places you went that you’re like, if you go and you’re only doing five days or eight days, these are the places and the animals and the things that you want to do,

Jason Siemer  17:07

yeah. Well, not only did I do Kenya, but we went into Tanzania also. And Kenya was awesome, because it was, like, really rugged and raw and legendary, you know. And, you know, you kind of have to, I don’t know the bucket list kind of place, but once we got into Tanzania, the Serengeti was just like, that’s like, the iconic national geographic area, you know? So that’s where I did a hot air balloon over the Serengeti at sunrise. Took some amazing photos.

Nestor Aparicio  17:36

I want to do Albuquerque for the hot air balloons. It always it’s my birthday weekend. It’s always the second week in October. It was always in Raven season. So it was like, I have never done it. Yeah? And it feels touristy, like a million balloons or whatever, but it feels like a photography from a beauty stamp to be there one time on that Saturday morning in Albuquerque, which is doable. You know, there’s no reason to not do it. Yeah, it’s on my list. Same thing. Like, Avenue here gives you it’s, you’re expanding my bucket list. Yeah, real and I’m not.

Jason Siemer  18:04

I never thought I would be in a hot air balloon, honestly. And like, I bungee jumped over the Zawahiri off the Zawahiri bridge or the Zawahiri River in New Zealand. And I’m not a bungee jump. I would never bungee jump. I was never even a roller coaster guy. But like, when I’m in these places, I’m like, well, when am I gonna be able to do this again. I’ll probably never go back to that bridge in New

Nestor Aparicio  18:24

Zealand. My wife wanted to walk the Sydney bridge. You can, you can strap in on the Sydney bridge over Sydney Harbor and do it, and it’s a couple 100 bucks forever. And I was like, I’ll go get a beer. You go do it. Yeah, her sugar and her diabetes at the time, she didn’t have the monitor. She regrets it. And you know, when she really, really, really regretted it, when our friend went over and did it a month ago and she saw her on top of it, she’s like, I should have done that. And I’m like, you weren’t physically able to do it. At times, we have to shed cancer the second time. So it’s like, she’s couldn’t do it, but like she might wind up going back to do it. You know, she she has regrets. I’ve beaten her up pretty good over 18 years, we were in South America. We were chasing you too. You’ll appreciate this and the stones. We went to Rio, we went to Sao Paulo, we went to Buenos Aires, and we were in Buenos Aires. We fell in love with buenos we were drinking, eating the whole deal. We gained 20 pounds of Buenos Aires, and we were at the Buenos Aires. We didn’t have a cat, we didn’t have kids. That’s when I was running the station, but I wasn’t on the air, so I didn’t have to come back and do radio. And I had points American Airlines, you two was playing Santiago, Chile. And there’s a place called Vina del Mar, which is their their vineyard area in Chile. And journey was playing there. And Bryan Adams too. And I’m like, Look, we’re in Buenos Aires. It’s gonna cost $800 total for us to reroute to go to Santiago and go to vino del Mar. We’re having the greatest time of our life. Let’s extend five days and just go do this. And you did it. No. So every time I’m somewhere, every time I’m. I’m somewhere, yeah? Where I get a bowl of chili, yeah? Or, if it’s chilly outside, or anything comes on a TV from Chile, or they have a earthquake in Chile, I ram it at like, remember that time we were gonna go to

Jason Siemer  20:15

cheese? What I’m saying we didn’t do Chile, I know and that that feeling that you have was terrible credit. If you had done it, you would have that opposite feeling whenever the extreme opposite, and there’s nothing like that feeling, which is why you should always do the thing.

Nestor Aparicio  20:31

Come on, man, hold on. Always do the thing. Yeah, every guest I’ve had this week has given me one little thing always do the thing Jason sebab playing Friday

Jason Siemer  20:45

night at the Admiral’s cup in Fells Point. Every first Friday of the month this year will be at the Admiral’s cup in Fells Point. In addition to the rest of our schedule. They

Nestor Aparicio  20:53

are rocking 90s, power, rock, pop, kind of band. Tell me what you play so people come see you.

Jason Siemer  21:01

What I just said? Yeah, 90s rock, Party Rock, anything that kind of gets you, get you moving and having a good time, having a couple drinks places like

Nestor Aparicio  21:10

fakers, Island, Ocean City, down at the admirals cup. You can book the band as well at bad with names, and you’re a photographer by people want to hire you. Tell them how to find you. Jason

Jason Siemer  21:18

seamer, photography.com, Jason s, I, E M, E R, photography.com there’s a email link on there. You can reach out to me. I also have a Facebook page. Jason semer photography, all one word that’ll link to that. And Instagram. Jason underscore seamer, underscore photography. I don’t want

Nestor Aparicio  21:40

to say that. I’m disappointed I brought you out next to me, because I like you, and I don’t get in a room with you much, and I thought it’d be fun to tell these stories. This might have been better on Zoom, where we pull your pictures up and talk, you know, through, yeah, the animals and the people. Well, I we should, because you took pictures, you know, I spent time in the islands, and there are a lot of people. And, you know, maybe they’re racist. I don’t know they have to be for themselves, but I don’t want to go to Jamaica. It’s poor. I don’t feel safe because they’re poor and they are different color, and it’s unsafe. And, yeah, I read things on the internet or whatever, so many of your African pictures of the colors of the fruit stands and the people and their clothing, and today’s Bob Marley’s birthday. So, you know, one love always right? Those kinds of pictures of happy people in poverty never going to escape poverty. Don’t even have dreams of leaving poverty. Never want to leave the island you take, you’ve captured these beautiful images of these folks in Africa. And then after that, there were birds and people and beast of burden and village life. And then these people, these just these African villagers. You captured their emotions in some way you must have. Where did you get that? Did you die? Did you do some sort of luau, or some sort of community village? How did you meet so many locals to photograph? Well,

Jason Siemer  23:08

the first part of the trip, when we were first leaving Nairobi to get out to our first safari spot, Samburu National Reserve. There’s a Samburu tribe there. And g adventures has it set up where you can, kind of, they walk a welcoming group, yeah, you know, it felt, there was times when it felt a little touristy, but at the same time, you’re like, you’re not just gonna go into it. Try like, yeah, yeah, go in and just like, you know, start hanging out. So it was a little, it was arranged that, being said, they’re all authentic tribal people. They weren’t imported from Atlanta, right? Yes, they’re not actors, you know, they’re not African Americans. They’re African Absolutely, correct. So that’s how we got to, you know, get a little closer to those people. But I don’t know if you saw the first part, first series of photos I was putting up en route to that area. I was literally driving in our safari vehicle with my camera out the window, anticipating little scenes coming up of the markets and the people and people on different modes of transportation, and you clicking so fast you didn’t see I had like, a very fast shutter speed set up, and I’m waiting for it to pass by, and I’m it’s she didn’t really see the picture you got home. Yeah. And I’m going through this stuff, and I’m like, what I want? Like, it was all roll of the dice, but, like, now that I see it, I’m like, this is, like, priceless stuff. Nice. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  24:31

priceless trip. Jason seams over in Africa, doing his thing. So you have a next one or no, is there a What did? This was your 50th birthday. You’ve been to all these weird places. Yeah, you probably picked Thailand. And some of these places based on budget. Some of these places are inexpensive to go to, but literally, I mean because South America is more inexpensive right now, which is why I’m not going to London for $500 a night, when I can go to Bogota for a week for 500 bucks. You know what? I mean, I’d see a place I’ve never seen. Yeah. So I’m really man. The last three, four years i. I have only gone places where there’s some element to it. I’ve been to LA a million times now. They’ve had fires or whatever, yeah, but I haven’t been to the Hollywood Bowl, so I’m not going back to LA till I can get to that. You know? I’m I want to do Joshua National Tree, uh, Park, right? Joshua Tree. So there’s some things I want to do that I haven’t hit. I’ve never been to Palm Springs, yeah, last year, I had never been to Lake Tahoe. I had never been to Reno. I had never been to Sacramento, and have friends there, yeah. So I booked a trip, and I went saw Brian Adams in Lake Tahoe, and I drove up the mountain. I had never been any place where, when you come down from Lake Tahoe, it was, it was a year ago. Last week was championship game week, because the Niners and the Ravens were, was the week the Ravens played. But I went away during the middle. Of The Week to for my mental health, basically, for you, yeah, well, you remember the Orioles I have the rate I haven’t posed a mile. So, yeah, sports been bad about a good to me. So I leave Tahoe, and it’s like, snowing a little bit, and I get and then you got to come down the hill towards Sacramento, and I’m like, in a rental, you know that I got in Reno. And they’re like, pull over and put the chains on. Oh, yeah. And I’m like, I don’t know, not enough. Yeah, no change, yeah, reality. So, yeah, yeah. 50 bucks at the top, 50 bucks at the bottom. Take them on, put them off. Oh, you know I wasn’t I feel like I felt like a dumb ass. I’m like, hey, what do I do? I got no choice. I’m going down. I want to go to Sacramento today. So it’s been a while since I’ve been pinched in that way. I always think travels a little bit like that. You know, it’s

Jason Siemer  26:32

funny you say that. I tell people when they’re like, when you do these trips, like, aren’t you, like, nervous or whatever? And I’m like, Look, one thing you have to expect is there gonna be moments when you feel really stupid just like you said like, or just like you’re doing things that you never took an account for, or you just like weren’t ready for, or you’re there certain local traditions or something that you’re just like, well, the language

Nestor Aparicio  26:52

barrier isn’t great. Most places Americans would go, for any American to go to Europe, they speak English for the most part. For them, even in France, where they pretend they they can get by. I’ve only been a handful of places where and I speak enough Spanish to get by. In South America and Cuba, places I’ve been Australia, they speak English. Yeah, dude. Land in Tokyo. Go ahead. Land in Beijing, yeah. And try to do anything, yeah. And I went one of the funniest store. I tell this story all the time because I’m missing a finger, right? I’m missing a missing a pretty key finger here. It was cool. Look, pick my nose on his kid. We went to we went on our own in China. We were there with Ripken, and we’re there with the State Department, and we’re at really Tony hotel, and we had all of these lists of things that never mentioned. Taiwan. It’s offensive to anybody, and you’re not allowed to say the word Taiwan in China, interesting that you that’s part of China to them, right? Yeah. So, yeah, it’s just weird, right? So the State Department told us don’t open your eyes in the shower, because the water will have parasites. Don’t drink like all these things. This is in Beijing, right? Yeah. And you could see how dirty the air was. The smog was incredible in Beijing and the smog and set in Seoul, Korea, incredible. So we go, we got in a cab to go to a restaurant that we had found in the photos guy, or maybe it’s a time out guy, because it’s 2007 it’s called Bellagio. Of all places. We went Chinese place. Everybody’s smoking cigarettes, crazy bowls and noodles. There’s a real, you know, Asian noodle kind of place. I think it might have been Vietnamese, like, in its reality, Vietnamese cuisine. And so we ordered some Dante and noodles, and they bring me a bowl, and I don’t speak any Mandarin, obviously, and they don’t speak there’s no one anywhere that speaks English, so everything is pointing and communicating, yeah? And that’s like, it’s like being a child again, or dealing with a child or an animal. They challenge you, yeah. So they brought the food. They brought my wife food and noodles, and I held my finger up, and I’m trying to show them. They brought me chopsticks, right? This speaks to your first point of things you think you have never done and can’t do and haven’t tried enough, and I’m missing a finger, so I can’t use chocolate four and a half. I can’t, like, do chopsticks. They literally, the woman brought me, and I have some video, she brought me toothpicks because that’s all they had. They didn’t have Fox, yeah, it’s China. They don’t do forks there. They don’t have they don’t have forks, yeah? So they brought me toothpicks, and it was at that moment in 2007 October seven, I was 40 years old. I said, I’m gonna learn to eat with chopsticks. And when I went back to Asia and Japan, I eat every single thing I could find with chopsticks because I learned how to eat because I was embarrassed. It was a cultural taste. What I laugh like hell about they felt bad that I had a finger missing, but they didn’t know what to do with it. They’re like, dude, learn to eat with chopsticks,

Jason Siemer  29:43

for sure. Yeah, and there’s gonna be those times, and that’s that’s a unique story that not many other people tell. You feel dumb, but yeah, you do, and you’re always like, you’re always screwing up in some way because you’re not from there, and also you’re a little nervous, absolutely. Did you read

Nestor Aparicio  29:58

anything or whatnot? Do or not to say, or is there anything in Africa that you absolutely shouldn’t have done, like, if you would have given money to the villagers? Is that offensive to them? Or is that? Yeah, I just want you know, like, you don’t want to offend someone in a in their heart, through poverty or through you’re a rich white guy from America, and they’re that’s always an issue for me with poverty and other places. When I have a man come up to me on the beach in Jamaica and try to sell me whatever we Coke, drugs, a hat, you know, whatever they’re trying to sell me, I always want to be respectful in my heart what I have being there and they don’t have. And I think that that is makes me, makes me try to be a good person, sure, but I want to convey that to other people, because I think there’s so many stigmas about being as Pro jam once saying, W, m a white man in America, right, right? I mean, it’s, yeah, when you go places, you want to be the ugly American, sure.

Jason Siemer  30:54

But there’s also a fine line, because I, you know, I’ve been to, like, say, it pops in my mind Cambodia, and also in in Africa, where they say, you know, if a kid comes up to you and asks you for money, don’t give it to him. And that’s kind of like, it kind of tugs it like your morals too, because you’re like, Well, it’s a kid, you know, but they want it. They don’t want to teach kids that, like, that’s how I get my money in life, is by begging either, you know. So like, they say no, because in the big picture, it actually helps them know that, like, it’s not that easy, and you should try to, like, you know, work for it, or, you know, make sure you go to school and and and earn stuff. You know, you’re not going to go your whole life just like that.

Nestor Aparicio  31:34

You know, of all the things I’ve done in my life, traveling, and I try to, this week, I’m trying to talk about poverty and feeding. We had catonville. Yeah, there’s so much poverty in America, in our own community, and insecurity and all that. You do feel differently when you travel other places and you feel like, well, they’re not in America. So they, you know, people want to be here. We feel superior in some way. We have this complex about us. I went to Cuba in 99 with Scotty P who owns a me cheese, if you’re familiar with me cheese. And we went over as media members back when I was in the real media. We flew from Miami down to Cuba. And before we left, his mother and sister were very involved with the Harrisburg senators, I think they were called the baseball team that played on the island. And Scott came up with this idea with his mother. And this is when baseball was doing cardboard, or whatever it was called the cardboard, leather, yeah, yeah. Give, give things to Dominican kids, Venezuelan kids. I mean, I remember when I was my father would always tell me this, or my, my gringo father, my pop, when we went to Venezuela in 73 kids were playing baseball with stockings. They would, yeah, stockings wrapped up. That’s was a baseball in Venezuela in 1973 so we went down to Cuba and Scott and his mother and his sister, put together a whole bag of Harrisburg senators, hats, baseballs. I collected some hats. We just collected stuff. And said, I think the radio stab we had the races. I said, Yeah, you want to give some stuff away. And we wound up packing a suitcase full of nothing but stuff to give away, and we didn’t know how to give it away. And Scott’s creative, and he’s such a good man at a me cheese, we had a cab driver that was gonna take us out to the Vera Dero, the famous beach out to the east of Havana and and we thought we’re being watched and all the shit that our parents told us about Cuba, and they’re gonna murder some hill, nothing like I found the Cuban experience to be completely different than anything anybody ever told me it was gonna be often, is right? I mean, well, I was 31 at the time, so I’m feeling 25 years ago now, 26 years ago. So we go down for the famous game the Castro Angelos. We were there for all that we had this stuff. And Scott’s like, how do you want to give it away? And I’m like, I don’t know. And Scott’s like, I bet if we drive around, we’ll find kids playing baseball, and we’ll just give it to him. Yeah, dude, not good. I will cry. No, no, no. Is one of the it was, it was the most Santa Claus thing, yeah, I’ve ever experienced in my life. I don’t know. You can feed ducks and they come and they’re happy. And I feed squirrels every day and they’re happy. Then there’s human beings and these children, yeah, we went to this field. I had pictures of all that picture we played. We said we wanted to play ball with them, and they let us into the game. Cool. So I’m out there pitching. I was wearing a tank top, a hot shots movie tank top and a hat. And I’m pitching to these kids. And there were three sizes of kids, small, medium and large. There was a six to eight year old, kids that nine to 12, and then the kids that were like, getting puberty, getting stick, you know, getting big and could play, right? 1415, year old, they were on three different diamonds. And we went to the smallest kids, thinking, let’s give it to the smallest kids. Well, all the other kids came over and we got a game up. We had a big game, and we played ball, and then we went to give everything away, and the kids were fighting, not over the baseballs or anything. They all wanted the hats. And Scott’s like, damn it, if I would have known that hats would have been the thing they wanted. They the hats were gone, and when I gave the kid the ball. Gave it back to me because he didn’t want the ball. He wanted the hat. You know, I mean, these are little kids. I’ll cry if I talk about it, because it was, like, insane, but it’s amazing when you go to other places I talked about I don’t think I’ve told that story three times on the air. I haven’t thought about it much, but you do think about what you can do to leave behind something that really is good, that isn’t about your own thing. Get what they want. They wanted hats. Scott’s like, my god, I feel like I want to go down the store and buy 30 hats and bring them back to them. Yeah, spend 10 bucks, or whatever it would be. But, yeah, I mean, when you, when you travel, you, you get humbled as the white American, I think you do. Yeah,

Jason Siemer  35:36

absolutely. And you know, you know, the whole tipping thing in different parts of the world to where, like, you know, it’s almost insulting to overtip, because then it seems like you’re just this, like, just dishing it out because you feel bad for him. There’s like, a fine line in, like, giving what’s appropriate, and over giving and being arrogant about it too, and

Nestor Aparicio  35:52

being showy. That’s what I’m saying. Yeah, of course. Jason Sears here, his band is rocking down in Fells Point. They are bad with names. He’s a wonderful photographer. He’s taking some great pictures out in Eastern Avenue. In eastern Africa. Three weeks abroad again, you’re done. You know, you don’t even have a next place. I’ve asked you three times, you don’t have a next place. You’re

Jason Siemer  36:09

done. There’s, there’s always things that, like, pop into my head when people ask that question. Like, I’m just gonna say this now, because I’m kind of, this is what I’ve been thinking for now. But like, I’d love to go to Madagascar. Okay, that’s one of those, like, you know, another African country, but, like, its own, you know, off the off the continent kind of thing, its

Nestor Aparicio  36:28

own. I want to do Tasmania or, you know, you’re not like, Australia

Jason Siemer  36:32

down, yeah, that’s another one of those kind of, yeah, I feel like that. I don’t know if that’s rebuilding because it burned like a number of years ago. Maybe not, but no. Madagascar just seems like such its own place. And the

Nestor Aparicio  36:45

Faroe Islands was that for you? Yeah? Yeah. Nobody knows where they are, okay? And

Jason Siemer  36:50

you did that, yeah? So last January, as I said, I usually travel in January, because that’s when I kind of have a window of time where I can do stuff. I’m like, where should I go? And I was like, looking online and different, like photographers, like pages and different blogs and stuff, and I came across an article that said, like, you know, I’ve been seeing photos of the Faroe Islands. So basically, it’s an 18 Island archipelago off of it’s like an hour and a half flight from Iceland, and it’s owned by Denmark. All these islands are connected by sea tunnels. And it’s a very wealthy nation, actually, tunnels. Yeah, there’s 18 islands, and I think there’s at least, I don’t know, eight or nine sea tunnels. So not all of them are connected, but they’re working on it because they do have the money. So they’re kind of

Nestor Aparicio  37:34

between, like Scotland and Iceland and west of Norway, yep, and sort of south of green or away southeast of Greenland, which Iceland is as? Yeah, so Iceland’s very close to Greenland. So, yes, okay, yes,

Jason Siemer  37:48

I was on these this, I see a lot of photography online, and I saw these, like, mysterious photos of these, like houses with these, the grass roofs. And I’m like, That’s so interesting. It’s so, like, just cozy and intriguing. And you see these mountains and rolling hills and everything’s like, super green, of course, during the summertime. But I saw this article that said, you know, the true adventure would go here in the winter, because no one else is there. It’s off the beaten path. People

Nestor Aparicio  38:15

live in these islands total. I mean, is it 10,000

Jason Siemer  38:17

people? There’s, I want to say there’s 50, oh, man, I want to say there’s like 55,000 people total in all the okay, I can Google. Don’t quote me on that. But on top of that, there are the sheep outnumber the people, like two to one. So literally, when you’re driving down the highway, there’s like sheep crossing the road, and 53,270

Nestor Aparicio  38:40

people. 53,270 people live in people live in these islands. They’re in the middle of the North Atlantic Ocean, you know, you think maybe, like, the boat, right? The Titanic kind of like, that’s that area.

Jason Siemer  38:51

So like, 35,000 of those people, I believe, live in the capital city, which is called torsion, and the rest are spread out throughout the islands. And it’s, you know, it’s everything’s about an hour and a half to two hours away from the capital city. So you do these rolling and

Nestor Aparicio  39:06

when you show up in a car in these places, these people have never seen they don’t see Tory. They’re probably very skeptical of

Jason Siemer  39:12

you right there. They’re starting to see more and more tourists, like, it’s becoming like the new place going

Nestor Aparicio  39:17

to kill anybody. It’s in the middle of nowhere, right? Literally, yeah, if you’re there, you’re just a wanderluster. You’re not there to see the Rolling Stone. No, no, absolutely not. Farrow, F, O R, F, A, R, o, e, Pharaoh islands. Please look them up. If you’ve never it’s, yep, dude, you’re, I mean this, this is what makes you interesting. You know that? I mean not the music in the art and all that stuff, but your Orio baseball song from 35 years ago. This makes you much more interesting than that. Thank you. That’s okay. But everybody knows your song. You hate your song. Do you watch any baseball? You’re done with sports or I never talked to you about this? Yeah, you had it. You had 10 years where you just you felt a bit theories, even when I hate they hated me. I didn’t really hate them. They hated me. Yeah, I did hate them because they ripped me off and they lie. To me, you know, when you don’t pay a $30,000 bill, you don’t, you forget that stick. Yeah. But you had your own exit from baseball, and I think when you were a young man, and you and I were rivals, friends, you’re running the video. I’m nasty now, like you thought you were gonna spend your life all in sports, right? Yeah. Well, you would have been, you would have been orioles.com First in you would have been a massive employee. We would have been rivals. Yeah, trust me, we would have,

Jason Siemer  40:27

yeah. I mean, I grew up wanting to be a major league baseball player. Played all throughout played, literally, played high school. Didn’t get recruited. I, you know, I did meet all county and stuff in high school, but like, then I didn’t get recruited. And I was like, Well, I guess I’m just gonna see what I try to get a career, but I always loved video I, you know, my story is like when my dad would go to leave for work, you know, he had his video camera there that he would use to film our little league games. And I would, when he was at work, I would take the camera and just film like little skits, film myself playing ball around the yard, stuff like that. And then I started teaching myself how to edit, just tape to tape VHS from, like, the camera to the VHS recorder. And I started teaching myself video production, basically. And then when I was in high school, I was in the video department. And then college, I went to Towson and did TV and film. Graduated from there, and I landed my first job.

Nestor Aparicio  41:15

You were kind of a first in video guy with the Orioles. I mean, they had just gotten a jumbotron and we’re making, I mean, I remember the videos you made for Brady Anderson, every player had a fun little video that played anybody it’s old enough. Remember, here was a Birdland. Yeah, that was your work back in the early days, before there was a mass and before there was a.com and it was the kind of stuff that, you know, home team sports probably that would have been the next thing for you, if you stuck around, would have been to be in television, baseball production of the games, right? Yeah. I mean, Memorial State would have been a different life for you. You still do that work. You do a lot of that work. You just have exited from, like Peter Angelo’s basically early on,

Jason Siemer  41:54

it was, it was my dream job after wanting to play baseball professionally. So, like, when I was able to, because I was a, you know, I wrote that song for the Orioles growing up, just a passionate Orioles fan. So when I landed that job, I was like, wow, this is the best job I could have, because I can do, I’m part of baseball. Still, I’m in the major leagues, but in a different way. You got to go to games for doing video, yeah, and my work is being displayed in front of, like, at that time, Full House, 3.8 million people, a lot of people. And I was 21 years old with that job. So, like, that was, like, I made significantly

Nestor Aparicio  42:26

younger than me. So you’re 50 I’ll be 57 this year. So like, my perception of you, this is 1993 94 I was 25 or 26 you’re like, 19,

Jason Siemer  42:36

yeah, I started, I think I was, I think I was 21 when I started in 97 I was there from 97 to, oh, seven. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  42:42

you were always strumming the guitar too. I mean, you had that going on for sure.

Jason Siemer  42:45

And I was writing music. And I released a couple of my own CDs during that time. And then I have

Nestor Aparicio  42:52

one of them. I still have one of the CDs. Yeah, you and Ed Lauer. I mean, you guys were making CDs in the 90s. It was inexpensive to do. And, yeah, you had it in your heart that maybe you could be that guy,

Jason Siemer  43:02

right? Yeah. And I liked, I just, I like to take my creative stuff kind of the next level and think outside of the box. And, like, when I was writing the Orioles song, I was like, Well, how can we, like, up, update the Orioles magic into more of a new modern age thing? And I want to put my own life experience to it and tell my story growing up being an it was a little

Nestor Aparicio  43:19

Gin Blossoms. He is, what I would call, is that fair? I love the gym, love, but that was that era. I mean, that song, I can almost hear him singing that song, yeah. It was that kind of song, yeah.

Jason Siemer  43:28

But every, every lyric I put into that song was like, from my heart, what I what I felt growing up as an Orioles fan, so that they started playing at the park. And I don’t know now it’s been that was 98 so however many years it’s been that,

Nestor Aparicio  43:42

when did you leave 9807 I started there during free the birds. Yeah, I’ll see we were rivals. See, I knew I got there. Everybody had to hate me there, trust me, in order to keep your job the rest of them. Yeah, trust me, yeah. I got unfriended by everybody and on LinkedIn, but you left, so we’re here. Yeah?

Jason Siemer  44:03

I mean, 18 years ago, I have, I have no I have nothing but appreciation for the job that I had there, the people I met, experience I got, but

Nestor Aparicio  44:14

you were done with baseball when you I was burned out. Yeah, you don’t go to games anymore, right?

Jason Siemer  44:19

I’ve been to a handful of games since I left there, and I don’t hate the Orioles. I still have friends that work there. I just want to, I want to say the right thing. And the real thing is that I always appreciate what I had there, and I appreciate the people that are still there, and I appreciate the opportunity. And was a great life experience. How many

Nestor Aparicio  44:35

years? 1410, you’re only there. 10, it felt like you were there, 9394 9707 All right, so I’m mixing it up. Yeah, yeah, you were late, Brady Anderson, and I’m trying to think of the the Yeah.

Jason Siemer  44:50

So I saw Cal retire, and you know, then things got unraveled, and people weren’t coming to games, and it was like, oh, you know why? In the jumbotron firing up the fans because we’re not hitting the ball or pitching. You know, I don’t want to go there, but anyway,

Nestor Aparicio  45:08

I would say for both of us, we spent so much time in baseball that we saw the warts. I’ll leave it at that, yeah, and just say, like, it’s a tough gig being your job with the Orioles. It’s incredibly demanding. Baseball is demanding just, just for everybody. Yeah, and I think you and I being around it really, I know I gathered this very early on how difficult it was to be Mike Messina or Cal Ripken 1993 and like the whole matter, how much money they were making. Remember just doing that job and performing at that level, packing your bags, going on the road for 10 days, like just staying healthy, all of those things, pressures on

Jason Siemer  45:43

for everybody across the board, no matter if you’re the front office or the team or the vendors or the ushers, and

Nestor Aparicio  45:50

it is fun to get out of that. I would think, after doing it right the last 50 now you’re just a fan again, if you want to. And

Jason Siemer  45:55

I don’t want to say, Yeah, I mean, I’ve lost I don’t really follow it as much, honestly. And when somebody asked me to go to a game and say, Hey, let’s meet at pickles. Meet at pickles, and then we’ll go, you know, just grab, grab a seat and just enjoy the atmosphere. You know, of course, I’m staring at the jumbo trying, like, what are they doing now? Oh, that’s wrong. They shouldn’t be playing that they shouldn’t be doing. You know, you that kind of stays with I find

Nestor Aparicio  46:15

that I see the game better at home, on TV, being thrown out, that when I am at the game, the game’s not as important as hanging out with you. You know what I mean? Hanging out with the people I see. Yeah, I’m there not to be seen or whatever. I’m there to immerse with people. If I want to watch the game, I stay home like I watch the game at home a lot, and I talk about the games, but when I wind up going down there, the game doesn’t ever feel important to me. What feels important is, oh, my God, there’s Seymour. I haven’t seen him in a while, you know? Yeah, I think

Jason Siemer  46:47

over time, that stuff kind of like, becomes more golden. You know, you’re just like, and like, my friends that are still there, I see catch a beer with once in a while. And I’m like, you talk about those old times, like glory days, whatever. But like you, you appreciate it. You appreciate it on a whole different level. You know, it’s not, it’s not work anymore, and that’s a relief. But you also have those memories. See

Nestor Aparicio  47:07

people think I hate the Orioles and I love the Orioles. I just challenge the Orioles, and I want them to be better than they’ve been for our lifetime. And Clancy does too. Clancy came out, so we have, you know, you Clancy, me, there’s a lot of there’s there’s Mojo, and you know what? They might win the World Series. And I told Clancy this yesterday, when they win, I’m not gonna cry and jump. I don’t know any of these. If they invite me back, great. I hope they do. I know Mark, fine. God bless you. I’m really a media member, if you want to let me and I’ll come. But when they whenever they win, in the end, people like you and me that have been whatever we are disenchanted. Removed, moved, removed ourselves, expatriated the people that have stayed and love it. Really, really love it. I want them to win for them, and I felt that way two years ago when it was a little closer and they went down to Texas, and this year didn’t feel like they were good and they didn’t have enough pitching. Last year they might have been able to win. The notion that Clancy, it’s going to make his make him happy, yeah, that makes me happy, absolutely, period. And the fact that John Angelos has gone too, it won’t make him happy. That’ll make me happier, but, but, but in a general sense, for everyone that has suffered through it and and loves it, and it’s on their Christmas tree, and right now in February, they’re waiting for opening day, and they can’t wait for it. Feel like a kid again when they’re at the yard. I will feel great for this city, because the city deserves it. The city deserves a championship. Totally.

Jason Siemer  48:31

I mean, you always want to feel good. You always want people to feel good about life. You know, it’s something they’ve been you know, follow good when

Nestor Aparicio  48:38

I saw those African smiles, man, you know what I mean. So that is good, as much fun as I wanted you to have 21 days in Africa. This guy, East Africa, his Orio baseball song, is still out on the internet. His work is out on the internet. You could buy his pictures from the Faroe Islands or any other places find him a Jason Seaman photography, is that correct? Semer, see that? Say Seaman was yeah, no, I said, Seymour, Seymour photography, is that? Say it right? S, e, i, M, E, R, they do right. Now, you’re right. Semens is the video, s, e, i, e, M, E, N, S, that’s right. Is the name of the company, right?

Jason Siemer  49:14

All right. Seymour. Seymour, you got this, Seymour

Nestor Aparicio  49:19

of Africa, with him? All right, we’re at State Fair. I’m my bowl of soup. You were like gonna drink your coffee? Sips? I had two bites.

Jason Siemer  49:26

Riveting. You know, I’m serious.

Nestor Aparicio  49:30

Just keep not being. Get his own podcast. He’ll have his own. He has his equipment to go see his band. Bab with names. I have been Babb with crab cakes. Here. There’s having a crab cake all week. Even a coca just took one home. It’s the magic eight ball from Maryland lottery. And our friends at wise markets, who put us out doing this thing, their wise conversations started as a crab cake tour. It’s a couple Super Bowl. It’s all for the Maryland Food Bank. I have a whole trunk full of non perishables, and I’m gonna drop off over Catonsville emergency assistance on the way out of here. We’re gonna wrap it up at Cooper’s north and. And Timonium on Friday. Friday’s nuts. I mean, I’ve got like, a dozen guests and people coming by more than I even know. We’ve had Joe Flacco this week. We’ve had Jamal Lewis this week. We’ve had Mike Nolan and a whole bunch of Pro Football Hall of Fame voters. Good luck to Marshall yanda and Terrell Suggs and Steve Smith, as well as Lamar Jackson on the MVP. I am wrapping up from state fair so I can go eat my soup and look at seamers pictures. Back for more. We are Baltimore, positive in W, N, S, D, stay with us. You.

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