It’s not hard for Nestor to discuss his 50-year friendship with Stan Gibson, whose namesake musical festival “Stanstock” has become a September tradition of bringing dozens of bands together this century. Let Vance Van Horn and Sheila Coulson tell you about this year’s big weekend at Fallston Barrel House and watch the Kevin Bacon-Smalltimore connection that leads through Sheffield Studios and Buddy Ryan and Lawrence Taylor back in 1997.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Stanstock Music Festival, Fallston Barrel House, acoustic groups, charity event, volunteer musicians, Baltimore positive, Maryland Food Bank, Nicole Van Horn Trust Fund, cancer support, Buddy Ryan, Lawrence Taylor, gambling show, Rex Ryan, music connection, Thanksgiving tradition
SPEAKERS
Sheila Coulson, Vince Van Horn, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Very much. Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 task Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are positively at Coopers north. I’ve been giving these things out, like their water. It’s the last day of cup of Super Bowl. It is the magic eight ball for the Maryland lottery. Also our friends at wise markets, and you can buy these at wise markets. Also putting us out on the road this week. It’s all for the Maryland Food Bank. I’ve got 1234, about nine bags of food so far, and we’re just getting going. We have a lot of friends stopping by, even old friends, and I don’t even know we’re gonna be here today. Sheila Colson reached to me earlier this week, and Stan Gibson has been I mean, he was like a cousin to me, like, I don’t say like an uncle, but a little bit like an older cousin that would act like an uncle to me. In the 1970s Stan’s family and my family were best friends in the whole world. My parents, I spent every Thanksgiving and Christmas night at the Gibson’s house with all the relatives, all the great then grandkids later, when I talk about kielbasa and sauerkraut, shout out to you wise markets for Avi Nestor ski. It’s all because of Gert Gibson and Stan Gibson, who were Stan’s parents. Stan stock. His dad’s name was Sammy Gibson. And so Sam and Gert, excuse me on that, and Sheila is here to talk about that. And she brought fans, fan or advances like you remember me. I produced the buddy Ryan LT show back in the day at Sheffield studios, and I’ve been telling them, man, there’s a music connection going on here. You worked at a music studio, and Sheila, you’ve known Stan a long, long time, right? Give me a background, Sheila first, because you’re here to talk about Stan stock, and I definitely want to do that. And to do that. And so early in a year for that. But never, never too early to get prepared. Stan stock is a fall festival that happens every year. And it was going on, it was now lunacy when it was the Sullivan’s place before that. And and you guys have moved it, you moved it up to fallston, correct?
Sheila Coulson 01:58
Yeah, fall some barrel house right on Belair road and mountain road. That’s a great venue. We have two stages which Stan prefers to have an outside patio and also an inside Hall. And now we just started last year we added acoustic. So all weekend we have acoustic groups, like in the bar restaurant area. It’s pretty big Folsom barrel house, and we’ve had a lot of success. There great, great owners to work with. For the charity, they even donate back to Stan stock, and they don’t just let us have our event there at no cost, but and they’re great to all the volunteers. You know, all our musicians, bands, acoustic groups, they all volunteer. Well,
Nestor Aparicio 02:38
that’s the thing that is amazing. I did an event last week, and I want to get your headset here. Your headset here right, make sure we could hear us. But I did an event last week down at Cancun cantina for my dear friend Ray Bachman, who was my longtime executive producer battling cancer. Love you, Ray. You know that, and place was mobbed, and he had like, four, maybe five bands, donate surreal, and several other bands. I don’t want to get him. They were great, surreal. You guys were great. He even gave me a shout out. Said, I’m an NSD Lister. I’m like, Dude, I’m a surreal listener. So these bands donated. It was the sweetest thing. And everybody came and gave 20 bucks and gave donations for Ray B to go from better than that. Ray’s doing great. So, and everybody loves him. Stan, Stan’s story and the inspiration that involves him and his background in music, back when we were kids Vance, you know, in the bands that far back, this isn’t three or four or five bands. I mean, this has been going on for how many years to stand stock out? It’s 11 years, 11 years. And I bet some years there are 15 or 20 bands, right over 35 Oh, my God, I’m wrong about that, because it’s, if you go to stand stock, I mean, it literally is, like, Woodstock. It starts in the morning. It goes all day. I have to figure out what time of the day I’m gonna go, because I can’t stay all day, every day. But I see the list of bands, and then I’m looking and I’m like, if these bands were getting paid, what would it would be a real like a trifecta festival, right? And all of these people love Stan, and they love what it stands for. And venture I know you have something to say, because you came out to first, though it’s good to see you, man, we’re so small team, buddy Ryan, we’re gonna tell those stories. But when it comes to Stan and doing this, how in the hell do you get this many bands to organize, to come out and and I tell everybody, if you want a great weekend of music participating, and this is as street as Baltimore as it gets, and it’s blown up the last 10 years.
Vince Van Horn 04:32
It’s funny. It started, I got a I got a call one day from Lee Townsend, from the ravens, and he was with Stan, and he said, you know, we’re gonna do this thing, and we’re looking for a charity. And he goes, and I remembered your charity. He goes, so, you know, can we give the money to your charity? And I went, Yeah, absolutely. And this is when we were at mcavoys in putty Hill.
Nestor Aparicio 04:51
Sure. I remember that too. And here’s
Sheila Coulson 04:53
his donation to his to Nicole van loh trust fund from Stan stock, 20. Look
Nestor Aparicio 04:58
at that, 10,000 bucks. Absolutely hold that up a $10,000 check. All right, man,
Vince Van Horn 05:03
you know, so every year they’ve done this and this and more. So it’s incredible.
Nestor Aparicio 05:09
Well, tell me about your trust and how the the relationship here works, and then I’ll go back to Stan stock, just in general. We’ll talk about Stan himself a little bit, other than my love for Stan and knowing him my whole life, I always tell Stan this story, and I’ll tell the story out loud. When Stan first was getting sick and wasn’t doing well in his 70s, he was home a lot, and he was always out with bands and always out in the music community. And I got two stories about Stan Gibson, because, you know, I love you, Stan. And I’ve told these once or twice. I’ve told these. Did I tell you this on the did you do my show a couple years ago? One of your other dudes did the show. And I told in the story, one of other people on your committee did the show. So when I was a boy, on Thanksgiving night every year, we would go to their house. And, you know, I would have been an orphan child like I was raised by my grandparents, and my grandparents had lost their son, so there was a lot of sympathy for my parents that I didn’t was unaware of in the 70s, because everybody knew they had buried a child, right? And I was a bit of a replacement child, and I was precocious and loud and obnoxious and Venezuelan and all these things that end now, but I would go up to the Gibson’s house, and we would always, there would always be leftovers. We didn’t eat the meal with them, but after the meal was like a family Polish celebration. Everybody came by. Neighbors came by leftovers. Mr. Sam would bring me into the kitchen, little galley kitchen, they handle Bank Street, and he would have the crock pot with the sauerkraut and kielbasa. Well, this was before Stan got sick. Stan was putting together a plate of Thanksgiving food for one of his best pals, and it was a DJ. It was a DJ named Kurt Anderson, or Kurt Curtis Anderson, told me this story. Curtis Anderson was on the air at WW I n and this was over right off North Avenue. Really not a great area right North Avenue, just north of North Avenue. You know, mid central city where the old Dunbar Poets Club was, and we went back into that neighborhood on Thanksgiving night, and I see my parents. Can I go for a ride? And Stan said, I’m gonna take you to a radio station that’s 1976 maybe 77 maybe 78 but I was eight or nine or 10 years old, a little boy, Stan threw me in his little beater car. We had a plate of food because his buddy was working live radio on Thanksgiving night, and he wanted to deliver it. And I’ll never forget this. Curtis Anderson brought me into the studio. I’m a little boy, and it was alive. Was the first time I was ever in a radio now, made my life in radio. Yeah, 3033, years later, but I’m in there and I remember him opening it up, and he was talking about the mashed potatoes, and he probably was spinning some Earth Wind and Fire. And there is never a time Stan Gibson that I hear Earth Wind and Fire, serpentine fire. And I don’t think of you because I first time I’d ever heard Earth Wind and Fire in my life was because of Stan. So that night, and then Stan got sick, and I was home and I and I remember my mom telling me Stan was sick and we need to do something nice for him. And I decided that I love strawberry shortcake, but I thought I’m gonna get creative. This is my chopped episode. I made him a blueberry shortcake. Don’t ask me how I made it, but he remembers it. And I brought remember taking up to his bed when he was like sick, not doing well back in the day. So I mean, I’ve known Stan. This is 50 years ago, 45 years ago that I remember, and to think that he has put together this legacy, along with his friends, that is this really an institution of Baltimore festivals now, right? I mean, there’s not a longer. I mean, Paul man has done a great job with this trifecta festival. And people do things, and my several species two
Sheila Coulson 08:37
whole days, yeah, there’s
Nestor Aparicio 08:39
nothing like this, right at all? Pretty unusual. Yeah, yeah. So we got bands booked this year. You got a date. We
Sheila Coulson 08:44
got anything. We just started working on it. You don’t have your date yet. Yes, you do. We’re always the weekend after Labor Day. Always that’s Saturday and Sunday. I
Nestor Aparicio 08:54
didn’t know that, all right, so I thought it may have something with the Raven schedule or something like that. Now you don’t worry about that. Well, sometimes
Vince Van Horn 09:00
every year, but the games are on television there too. So, oh, right, right. Good
Nestor Aparicio 09:04
point. Good point. So we’ll be back at fallston barrel house for sure. Yes, okay, and it would be the second weekend of September. It is Stan stock. Just Google it, you can find out about, I want to flirt with Vance here a little bit about the old days now. So it was, it was 1997
Vince Van Horn 09:19
1997 right? You’re asking me, I can’t remember my name.
Nestor Aparicio 09:24
It was 1997 it was 1997 I know it was 97 remember the year, right? Definitely 97 I had a guy reach to me in September, okay? And I got a cryptic email, and was from a professor in North Carolina, and he reached to me and he said, I see that you once did a television show with Buddy Ryan and Lawrence Taylor about gambling. And I’m like, what does this guy want? Well, he’s writing a book. So he’s writing a book about how gambling worked its way into where on every television here and at the. Our raw gambling, right? Where it came from, this illicit place back we were doing this show, and he found that he wanted to know my role in it, and Lawrence Taylor and Buddy Ryan and who this? Mike Warren, last game guy was like, the whole story. And I said, I’ll tell you everything you want to know. We have to do it on the air. This is my little thing. I’m like, this has got to be shtick, because nobody asks me about this, and now I found the only other. Now, Mike Warren and I have reconnected, and he almost did the show here with me the last time I did the show here, maybe in, like, September, October, because we had reconnected. We haven’t done it. I invited him out. He wasn’t feeling well enough, and he couldn’t do it. But I think Mike’s gonna come on. Mike’s in his 80s. Now, Mike called me sharp as attack once do a gambling show again, like seriously, Mike’s. My only experience with Mike were those 20 weeks of my life where I did this television show with you that was crazy, and I told the story about it to this author, and I did an hour radio, and I released it back maybe it was October, but I have all the videos, all the original videos, all the tapes. Will Schwartz, who is executive producer, we talked about him, because Dan Rodricks in here still really close. He was Dan’s executive producer for Dan’s television shows on channel two, and he was the executive producer for Dan stage shows that Dan Rodricks did down at the BMA. So will Schwartz is still around. I’ll be trying to get him on. He was our producer. The What do you remember of the 18 episodes of beat the pros?
Vince Van Horn 11:32
The one that really sticks out, and it was funny, I don’t know if you remember LT, and lt would come in, and this is when his party days were still going. They were raging. They were raging, raging. And on one of the shows, I was floor directing, and Lt came in, and he was so he fell asleep on the set. He fell asleep on the set, yes, yeah, and and will, and the camera caught him, and will tells me, in my ear, Vance, I’m gonna do a close up on buddy, when you see the camera move in, go wake up. LT, so I had to, like, crawl up with LT, like, asleep out cold. I shake him, and I was told. I told her, he wakes up like nothing happened. He’s like, Yeah, well, I think he
Nestor Aparicio 12:15
popped right off, like the light on the refrigerator went on. It’s true.
Vince Van Horn 12:18
He was, he was a good guy. I mean, they were both good guys. It was, oh
Nestor Aparicio 12:21
my god. Buddy Ryan loved me. I sort the thing I remember of that, of all of it, well, Rex thing came right, and Buddy loved me from the minute he saw me. I mean, like, I don’t know why. I really don’t know why, but I was intimidated by buddy. I already admitted to the young lady that was here before, as an Eagles fan, I was a season ticket holder when Buddy was the coach. So Buddy was buddy Ryan to me, we’re in the NFL two minutes at that point, the second year, 97 and I’m just trying to shave up pretending. Well, here’s the real story, because he can go back and watch that thing. I had never done TV in my life, and I got a call. Steve Hennessy was my producer at the time. Steve said guy called and said he’s going to do a television show with Buddy Ryan and Lawrence Taylor wants to know if you can host it. He listens to your show, Mike, Mike Warren, listen to me on the radio. Oh, cool. That’s how he knew him. Yeah, he didn’t know what I look like anything. Yeah, you’re sharp kid. You know Warren was, you know, last so I went out there that day having never in my life done anything on television, and I was trying to fake it. So you thought, like I had shot a commercial or something. You did good. I walked in buddy Ryan’s there, and there’s they. Warren was an over the top cat. He just was, he would bring enough food for 30 people. And there were like six of us, right? And lt was too stoned to eat anything. So usually there were bagels and bagels and cream cheese and just all donuts, all this food was there, and buddy and I would sit there tell me about yourself. So we and before we walked downstairs to the set, I was getting powdered and made up and shaved tight. And I looked 12. I mean, I was 28 but I looked 12 years old. And I remember saying to buddy, Mr. Ryan, I’m really nervous. Oh, come on, kid, you’re gonna be fine. When I got done the first segment, he looked at me like, kid, you’re gonna be doing this the rest of your life. And he gave me so much confidence, they’ll make me cry thinking about he loved me, and Lawrence liked me, and Lawrence was great, but you never knew which law Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes it’s redhead, sometimes a blonde, brunette, sometimes all three in limo that came with it. So he was a mess with Lawrence, but buddy would fly in from Louisville with his horses, and we would sit and just talk about football, and he would have his USA Today out, and he’d be, well, I like this defense. Make sure we talk about this defense. Nasty. That’s pretty good buddy, I mean, but Buddy, Buddy loved me, and we did it one year. Never happened again, and I hadn’t heard about it, other than as a party story, I’d be at the bar some guy like, you come say, hey, remember me? I’m like, Yeah, I did a show with Lawrence Taylor and Buddy Ryan. Nobody watched it. Nobody knew about it, except me. It was in my newsletter, and this guy found it on the internet. He found it on the internet, and it was
Vince Van Horn 14:59
the guy. Guy that was with Buddy he was his little Goomba. There was some little
Nestor Aparicio 15:03
it was his driver. It was the limo driver that was with Buddy Ryan. No,
Vince Van Horn 15:07
he was with, it was with Mike, with Mike
Nestor Aparicio 15:10
Warren. No, I don’t remember. I don’t remember that. Now, the story I told four months ago was about A Bronx Tale. Have you seen the movie? A Bronx Tale, Scorsese, I believe it is, or whatever it is, there’s a character in that movie whose character is called Eddie the mush. And the reason they called him Eddie to mush is because his picks, his gambling return to mush. Right? They called him Eddie to mush. Somehow Lasky found somebody in Brooklyn that knew the guy who played the the actor from the movie, who really lived that kind of lifestyle. He was in a little bar at the end of the bar stool, and some did you? Were you the one in charge of getting that tape every week, from Eddie to mush, Eddie the mush made a pick, and they send some videographer in the neighborhood. Warren paid him 200 bucks to go down to the bar, find this guy, bring him outside and have him read pics for the week. Do you remember this kind of remember that now? Yeah, and Eddie the mush would go outside. He was just this, an old man that needed 200 bucks, and Warren was giving him money because Warren loved the movie. So every week we’re gonna have our Eddie to mush picks. This is Warren doing executive because if the show was fun now, yeah, so Eddie the mush would come on. You can lock it up, throw it away. The Eagles are gonna cover the spread. They’re gonna weed out, right? And he would do this whole thing. And we would put it into the you were the producer of the thing.
Vince Van Horn 16:41
It was fun. It was it was a good run. I got to wear
Nestor Aparicio 16:43
a different jacket every week. So I thought that was made me feel like a big shot back in the day. Vance Van Horn is here. Tell me about the Nicole Van Horn Trust Fund.
Vince Van Horn 16:50
It’s a trust fund that started when my daughter passed away from cancer.
Nestor Aparicio 16:56
And don’t get me how many years ago was this 20 something? Okay, all right, ma’am, my wife’s a survivor, so I’m here with you, man.
Vince Van Horn 17:01
So, you know, having seen what everybody went through, my wife and I started this. So we, you know, besides this, we used to have a another event every year at Martin’s, although Martin’s went out of business where we did it. So we’re going to start back up probably in the next year or two. But we basically went into Hopkins and any child that was in there back in the day, we asked them anything they wanted. So you you want a bike, you want a computer, make a wish. It’s kind of like, make, yeah. But then what happened was the HEPA laws hit, and we couldn’t do that anymore, so they would say, Oh, well, you can give everybody an iPad, or you can give everybody, you know? And I was like, this, it’s just not the same, right? You know? So what I did was I kind of cheat. I find one person that’s in the hospital, and then I will be hard for me to do if I just yell out and then the right people, and then I just say, go in the room next to you and ask them what they want, and that tell that person to go in the room next to them and ask them what they want. And you said, and that’s what we
Sheila Coulson 17:59
do, right? About a two Vance is it’s, you don’t just give to the sick child that it’s to the all the siblings that sometimes get a little forgotten because there is a sick child. You don’t have
Nestor Aparicio 18:11
to tell me, No, my wife had cancer. We had a woman in the room next. We don’t know if she’s alive or not. She had five children, and she she was from down in Northern Virginia, and, you know, her husband could only get up a couple, two times, two, three. I mean, I was at my wife’s bedside her sister. But people go through this fight. And they fight. They don’t have a dad that loves them the way, you know, like, it’s, it’s unbelievable what you can do when you’re in the fight, and how much every little thing means, yeah,
Vince Van Horn 18:35
through it, everybody goes, Oh, I understand. I’m going to, yeah, you don’t. You know, it was, it was an ugly time. But like she said, The other cool thing is, like, I’ll get a call from somebody saying, Oh, I’m in Hopkins. I heard about you. I had to be flown up here. I didn’t bring anything with me. I don’t have any way to get food. I don’t have any way to and I’ll drive down to Hopkins and get my check. Nice.
Nestor Aparicio 18:59
Well, that’s beautiful thing, man. I mean, people pitching in fans. Fan horn is here on behalf of Nicole Van Horn Trust Fund, as well as a Stan stock. And I got Sheila Colson here. Stan stocks gonna be the second weekend of September. It’s gonna be up at fallston barrel house. I highly recommend it. Stan Gibson’s a lifelong friend, and that’s not even why you’re here. Like you’re not even an insider guest. I just shout it out. Like, if anybody wants to come on and Stan hit you, who hit me. And we were a little late putting this together, and it wound up being a real blessing to talk about your daughter and her memory and all the cool crap you’re doing, and the fact that you and I had bagels together with Lawrence Taylor for 20 weeks in a row, and you and I remember, but he doesn’t. I saw Lawrence this actually was this day. It was the Friday of Super Bowl week in Miami in 2020
Vince Van Horn 19:44
the plagues cleaned himself. He’s
Nestor Aparicio 19:45
fine, yeah, and and he saw me. It was very warm, and we took a picture and gave me a hug, and we had a fond memory. You know, we lost buddy a long time ago. And you know, Rex and Rob just got the job out in USC. I was gonna tell you about Rex, though, when. Rex and I would eat bagels that during that hour, hour and a half before we would do the show, we talk about all sorts of things, and there were no cell phones, and it was no texting, so just us talking, you know, really reading the paper, talking about the show, talking football. What are we gonna say on the air? Who do you like in this game? And Rex would every week, and this would speak to the pride of a parent, right? This would speak to the pride of parent, he would say to me, now my boys are out in Oklahoma. They’re gonna my boys are gonna be good coaches now my boys, my boys are good now. And this was in 97 and I’ll be damned if in 99 Rex wasn’t hired by Brian right to be the linebackers coach. And the minute he got here, Rex took one look at me. He’s like, my dad told me all about you. I got to figure you out. So Rex and I, 27 years later, the reason I know Rex Ryan and sat in his office every week watching film and studying tape with him and Mike Patton was because his dad was a giver. His dad was a beautiful guy. His dad was a buddy was great. Man, it was fun. Anybody mentions buddy Ryan to me? I’m like, man, don’t mess with Uncle buddy, you know? I mean, you make fun of Rex and Rob, you don’t mess with Buddy. They were good because Buddy was good for me. Hey, man, great. It’s great. And this is a cup of Super Bowl. I come out, get around here, I can see people I don’t even know I’m gonna see. I also, you know,
Vince Van Horn 21:11
I want to point out all the bands that always play go that’s incredible to me, that all those bands play for free, right? And they all care that much. People that come out and support this care that much, and they’re great bands.
Sheila Coulson 21:24
What impressed me, as well as after COVID, when we had the first stand stock after COVID, they still came out and played for free, and they all didn’t work for a couple years, because nobody could go to the bars. Everybody was masked, and they still came out and they still to this day, a lot of them are repeats. We try to always have new and different bands, young bands. We have different styles of music. You might hear country, you might hear blues. Well, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 21:50
what I’m saying. When I look at the list, it’s not any it’s got everybody. It’s a complete, you know, Festival, and you have to pick, you know, your bands out there at certain time, go see them play, but make sure you’re doing that second weekend of September. Stan stock is the website. Stan stock stands.org. Stan stock.my. Thanks to Bill here’s coming through too for giving me a Sports Illustrated man, I appreciate you. Look. You got a John Steadman book here. Man, I’ma hold this up here. This is my heart here. Did you lottery ticket win or No, you didn’t win. No, you haven’t scratchy yet. All right. Man, this has been like old home week. Here, folks bringing stuff from the Maryland Food Bank and being kind to us. We’re really appreciative. I’m gonna step back take a break so I can say goodbye to folks. Vance, thank you very much. Appreciate you. All right, Sheila, here, it’s all for Stan stock and our friends here. We’re at Cooper’s north. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery. I have the scratch offs. It’s the magic eight ball. It’s been lucky so far. Did I give you two? Did you guys get your car? Did you get yours? No, you didn’t get yours. There you go. You got them all right, it’s also brought to you by wise markets. It’s for the Maryland food bank, a cup of Super Bowl. We’re here w, N, S, D, am 15 70,000 Baltimore back for more from Cooper’s in Timonium, as the coach would say. You.
