That defense of the Cleveland Browns looks pretty good, too!

Longtime Cleveland sports media insider Daryl Ruiter brings Nestor to Berea and offers many Browns insights before the Ravens rematch on Sunday against DeShaun Watson and the retooled defense and Baltimore native Jim Schwartz finding ways to get Myles Garrett loose.

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Nestor Aparicio, Daryl Ruiter

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Come home we are wn st Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive.com. We’re getting out during the Maryland crabcake tour a lot of football going on right now Luke’s out knowings Mills that’s happening and we have the Ravens scratch offs giveaway courtesy of our friends at the Maryland lottery in conjunction with wind donation 8669 donation you buy till you get to free five years 0% financing and our newest sponsor, Jiffy Lube, MultiCare. Got my oil changed, and we’re taking this thing on the road, we’re gonna be fatally on Friday, next week. We’re going to be Costas on Tuesday. Then we’re going to do a heavy rotation Pappus and park but we’re gonna be Coco’s and larval. We’re gonna be gertrudes at the BMA with Dan Rodricks talking about his amazing show in late November the Governor at some point we’re gonna get together with him in Annapolis and and then also next month, we’re gonna be a curio wellness, sit down, talking about the future of the cannabis space as well. So mental crabcake tore out on the road doing stuff, and this guy would love crabcake I mean, if you ever new one, he stuck out there and that landlocked Oh, hi. Oh, no one. No one knows more about the Cleveland Browns in history of the browns. It has been there for all of the quarterbacks. It was a point he could name them. Sort of like letters of the alphabet at one point. He covers all things sports in the Cleveland area. He is right or wrong fan out on the social media is there a writer is you know if you’re feeling yourself or not you and I like going through this 25 year relationship where sometimes you have a bag on your head. Sometimes you’re like winning the Superbowl. Sometimes you’re like we hired Hugh Jackson, and it’s gonna go great. And then sometimes they went 27 to nothing with a semi criminal quarterback and shorts. He’s killing it on defense. And I don’t know if you’re optimistic or not, but certainly you’re coming in at a time where the ravens are at the Top of the Pops and beating everyone and Lamar Lamar and Brooklyn Brooklyn. I don’t know man needs division game. This is a really weird week for the Ravens the ravens are never in front. They never have a lead or 72 they got two games division at home. Best prosperity ever. Are you going to tell me the Browns are going to come in and wreck the party? Probably not.

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Daryl Ruiter  02:13

By the way, I have the list of quarterbacks would you like to hear them

Nestor Aparicio  02:16

all? You know if you can learn how to do it like Andrew Dice Clay and you can do a hickory dickory if you can learn a cadence or if you could sing it to hang on sloopy. Hang on, you can learn how to do that. Who’s the comedian in Cleveland? It’s so awesome. What’s

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his name? Mike Polk.

Nestor Aparicio  02:33

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I’ve never had him on the show if you have his number man slide. Like I’ve always wanted that dude on the show. But like he could take the quarterbacks Yes. And turn it into something.

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Billy Joel if we didn’t start the fire, something like that.

Nestor Aparicio  02:49

To honor a someone I think you knew who I only knew from MTV, Michael Stanley, and to a Cleveland rocks version of you know, co star site, you know, like do something with it, turn it into a wrap. So I don’t know dude, but have there been quarterbacks

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while the great PJ Walker was number 35.

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Nestor Aparicio  03:11

Is that the guy that we beat a couple weeks ago or was that? That

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was that was Dorian Thompson Robinson? He was 34. Okay, when Watson was 33

Nestor Aparicio  03:22

Listen, when I tell people we have experts on like, last week, I had Tom kelser want former Maryland stadium authority Chairman, I know you have stadium issues. And so you know, your Cleveland place was on fire years ago. They weren’t some great songs about it. But I mean, here in Baltimore, we have the whole stadium thing. So like I tried to get the best at John Waters on this week, like this segment is gonna run next to John Waters. It’s so so I’m getting great guests. But I tell people that you know more about the Cleveland Browns than anybody this side of maybe but Sean Terry Pluto, I you know, like, it really has been an amazing journey for your franchise. And now shorts. He’s out there. And I don’t. Is there any sense that Deshaun Watson is going to bring a parade to Cleveland? I mean, I’m being honest with you

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right now. Probably not. Because we just we haven’t seen an elite player out of him. We’ve gotten we’ve gotten sprinkled in a couple of games, right, Tennessee who was fantastic through for 289 yards and a couple of touchdowns. Got to sit the final six minutes out Sunday against Arizona through for a couple of touchdowns. No turnovers only 219 or so yards passing but again, sat the final six minutes out because the game was out of hand and they didn’t want to keep him in.

Nestor Aparicio  04:28

What’s wrong with that? I

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mean, no, I’m saying but what I’m talking about, he’s not doing what Lamar does. He’s not doing what Patrick mahomes does, and that’s where you’re putting up 300 plus yards passing and throwing for four touchdowns in a game like we’ve not seen that version of Deshaun Watson or you know, throwing for two touchdowns and running for two more touchdowns in the same game which Lamar Jackson seems to do in his sleep. But you know, he’s back from this rotator cuff injury that whole situation appears to be behind him came out of the Cardinals game clean according To the team will have obviously talked to the Shawn later this week. But I mean, the whole rotator cuff injury was was a six week circus. Because is he going to play as you’re not going to play tried to come back against the Colts and you got national media flapping their gums saying the guys here collecting a paycheck? Well, the whole reason the Browns had to start Dorian Thompson Robinson in that first game that the Ravens waxed the Browns 28 to three year in Cleveland was because the Shawn was trying to play with the rotator cuff injury. And then they discovered two and a half hours before kickoff, oops, the arm doesn’t work today. So well I guess the rookie has to start. And then he tried coming back against the Colts too soon. And lasted one hit five throws had to leave the game. And so you got national people running their mouths saying oh, he just doesn’t want to play. He’s just cashing his big fat paycheck. No, he wants to play. The problem is the arm wasn’t working and he can’t play and he was trying to play. So like if you want to criticize him because he’s not playing up to that contract, or you want to criticize them as to why he wasn’t available for 11 weeks last year. To me, that’s fair game. But when you just come out and starts flapping your gums and saying, Well, this guy’s just collecting a paycheck from the Cleveland Browns. Clearly you don’t cover the team and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t

Nestor Aparicio  06:13

right or covers the team and he knows what he’s talking about. He’s right or wrong fan. He’s out in the land of cleave. Sometimes we give him a hard time sometimes you offer him breakfast and treatment. That was before I got kicked out and defensively was Schwartz and the transplant that a guy like he brings right like I I had Anthony Mitchell on the show. This week is his son Keaton Mitchell’s running for a lot of yards. And you know he’s of that era. And you know, when I think of shorts, I mean, he and I have known each other so long. He’s you know, West Baltimore, and we stay in touch. I haven’t been in a room with him in a while. He went to Tennessee for five minutes there and went back home and did his thing. I didn’t know that he was going to coach again, like I haven’t had the I’m not close to him like that. Like I just didn’t know anymore. I would have been maybe 20 years ago before the Detroit job. But he came in and I thought that was a very interesting day to me. I think you may have sent me the text or I saw it on your on your Twitter or whatever. Hey, Jim Schwartz is taking the DC I said to my wife and like shorts is gonna go coach the browns. I wonder how that’s gonna go. I wonder why that’s attractive for him at this point. He’s got enough money, health, all that good stuff. Family kids are in college. I mean, I remember when they were this big. So it’s been a long time. I find it inspiring when guys want to put the band back together and want to do it because you know, that job’s not easy. You know, like, you fly in for that job. And you’re like, alright, it’s Cleveland. How long is it going to last? You know, but but shorts has been through this with Buffalo and Philadelphia. Tell me about the defense and what makes it attractive for Jim to take the job and now what’s I would think he’s maximizing the efforts there right like they’re they’re playing defense and a level that maybe you haven’t seen in 25 years right?

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No, I’ve never seen a defense this good. I mean, look, the Browns just recorded their first shout out since 2007. Oh, you’re talking over 200 games in between shutouts right there number one in yardage or fewest yards allowed. There’s now starting to create takeaways they had three of them Sunday against Arizona they get after the quarterback to come in off a seven sack performance miles Garrett is playing out of this world even though he might he’s got eight and a half sacks on the season. And you know people roll their eyes at that a little bit because he’s not leading the NFL in sacks but he’s impacting the game like you can’t believe just his presence on the field and the way Jim Schwartz is using him and turning him loose to brown secondaries. Incredible Denzel Ward had a second interception the guy breaks up a passer to it seems every game. He’s one of the best corners in the league. They got this youngster they drafted last year Martin Emerson Jr. who is fantastic in the secondary teams don’t even throw at him like Sunday. I don’t think the Cardinals throw a pass in his direction. Like they just don’t even look his way. Because he’s that good. In Seattle. He had an interception in a big pass break up the week before. A Greg Newsome who’s banged up right now he’s got a groin injury. We’ll find out what he’s able to do. He had to sit out this past week, but he’s been one of the best nickel corners in the game right now. So the secondary is fantastic Juan Thornhill, who they spent some money to get to come over from the Kansas City Chiefs, big vocal leader in that defensive room. But Jim Schwartz’s allowing these guys to be themselves. And hey, here’s an interesting concept for you. He figured out I got a bunch of corners that can play man, so I’m gonna let him play man. I’ve got defensive lineman that can attack the quarterback so I’m gonna let them attack the quarterback. But it seems like it’s a novel concept here that I I know what the skill sets of my players are. And I am going to scheme to those skill sets and that’s what Jim Schwartz has done. On top of the fact, he’s got really good people skills, as you know, you know, he’s got good people skills, he knows when to kick guys in the backside. And then in the same vein, he knows when to put their arm around him and tell him that he cares about him and he loves them. And, you know, he, you know, is rooting for him and things like that. So I think that all of those things Nestor have really helped Cleveland develop what I believe to be, I don’t know if it’s the best defense in the NFL, because there’s some good defenses out there. But I feel like you know, Baltimore’s got a really good defense San Francisco’s got a good, you know, really good defense. But I wouldn’t say that the Browns have a top three defense in the National Football League.

Nestor Aparicio  10:40

I mean, as bad as the Browns have been historically. And drafting that way, right drafting in the top five, top eight all the time, whether it’s the big money Warrens or you can name any of the players they’ve had, but the Myles Garrett thing and maximizing that. I mean, Cleveland’s the exact place that if Lamar got drafted six years ago, they would have screwed it all up. Right. I mean, like so it in saying that with Miles Garrett and how things have been different there. Talk about why, or you could talk about ro Quan Smith and the Ravens would have had to been really bad to draft ro Quan Smith, and it was a real theft. You know, 54 weeks ago when they picked ro Quan Smith up, because they would have had that been really bad to get a player of that caliber. But then you get that player, we have clowny now, right? And I know you know what that’s about. But you get those one ones that they had an injury things go wrong. And I’d go through the whole history of the League of top five defensive players and what you expect from that player. And then there’s we had Suggs at one point. But but the ad reads in the ray Lewis’s that are drafted a little lower, you expect a little bit less out of them. But when you’re one one, and you’re not a quarterback, and I mean, you’re expected to be something that maybe you can’t be in the case that you Davian clowny. Where are you with Garrett in this because he might be going to the Hall of Fame, and more than that, I could make an argument the arguments been made. He might be the best defensive player in the league right now this moment. Yeah.

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You know, I don’t know if he’s the best defensive player in the league, but he definitely belongs in the conversation. He I agree with you. I think he’s putting together a Hall of Fame career. And I think Jim Schwartz is amplifying that. You know, what, what helps miles get the attention now, is the fact that the Browns are five and three, they’re winning some games this year. He’s making impact plays at key moments in games. Younger in his career, he was making impact plays, but they weren’t coming at key moments in the game on a regular basis. I mean, there were certain games for whatever reason he just absolutely eats the Cincinnati Bengals alive every time the the browns and Bengals play. He’s he’s had a couple of really good games against the Pittsburgh Steelers, he’s, you know, Tom Brady’s last trip to Cleveland, he had a, you know, a big strip sack that turned the tide in that game and allowed the Browns to upset the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home. So like he’s had flashes of brilliance in key moments, but they haven’t been consistent. And but he was, you know, you know, stacking these impressive statistics. But now under Schwartz, he’s making key plays in key moments. And I think that a lot has to do with Jim Schwartz putting his guys in position to do that. But no player in NFL history has had more sacks before. There’s 1/8 birthday there, miles Garrett. He’s got 84 career sacks already. And you look at some of the names that are on that list. There’s no question if he stays healthy. And he maintains his current trajectory. Nestor, he is going to go to Canton, Ohio someday.

Nestor Aparicio  13:41

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Well, you don’t have to talk to shorts, but I would say hey, why don’t you take that gig or whatever? We probably say well, they have special players. I mean, I I see miles Garrett and I see Javon cursor I see, you know, haynsworth players that he had that were great, great players on defenses, including the big guy in the middle of the plate angry in Detroit kicked everybody’s heading and dama can sue Right. Like when you have a game wrecking type of defensive player. That’s kind of where it has to start. I mean, the Ravens transplanted heart last year by getting row Quan Smith, the accolades Campbell around for a while, while the ravens are playing great defense right now. But more than that, it is schematic and it’s about depth, and it’s not 3443 it’s very hybrid, and it has to be hybrid when you’re chasing Lamar Jackson around. I don’t know what the benefit would be of seeing Lamar the second time around. But whatever that is for your defense and for Jim Schwartz. And for the way the Ravens have been playing the last couple of weeks where you really start to see an imprint of Todd Monken. And no more of Greg Roman and you really started to see Lamar, not run the football, not be a part of design plays to run the football. And I don’t know where Keith Mitchell is on this side. But Lamar running in the first quarter and running ragged isn’t something that I don’t say I have to worry about something they do. You have to worry about it, but it’s not the way the Ravens scheming up lately that they’re doing a lot better. attractive, you know, a valuable investment is Roger Doran once said in your fair sense city back in the

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mall, you know the other thing too is is like Sione talkie talkie, who was drafted by John Dorsey years ago. He’s having a fantastic season, they brought into Darius Smith that they stole him from the Minnesota Vikings. You know, he’s outstanding Shelby Harris, who they added lately, Lee, in the process there, he had a sack the other day. So you’re seeing the pieces and parts in the investment on that side of the ball, pay dividends. And I think that what the Browns are really waiting for is they’re waiting for the big investment on the offensive side of the ball to really start to play some of those dividends. And obviously, I’m referring to Deshaun Watson, but let’s be honest about that first browns, ravens game. 14 of those points came because of Dorian Thompson turnovers and made life really, really easy on Lamar Jackson. And that ravens offense they did not have long fields to work with.

Nestor Aparicio  16:04

Right. It’s also a miss like seven or eight starters. It’s a different team right now. And that’s what I’ve written and said the last couple of weeks is that the Ravens have really rounded into as formidable as they can be because they’re as healthy as they can be. And they’ve always had a knack for getting good players here and being able to bring in players but I don’t think anybody realized Kyle van Noy and David Clowney would be like this. I think we all looked at the wide receiver room and thought the offense might be the stronger side of the ball the defense has been the stronger it’s certainly the more consistent side of the ball here as well. That’s what makes this an interesting fight because takeaways are going to be the key to the game to me on Sunday taking the ball away you’re going to win the game and it’s going to be about defenses having offensive make mistakes, and I guess the thought would be the Browns are missing their their biggest weapon, but so are the Ravens in regard to the running backs. I mean, both these teams lost their real running backs real late or real early in your case. And I think that that’s a devastating thing to try to overcome because you don’t really have a running back to that emulates running back one. Yeah.

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And so what the Browns have tried to do with the running game, they’re trying to recreate Nick Chubb in the aggregate. And so they’ve got three guys right now running the ball, Jerome Ford, Kareem hunt and PR strong mixing in you know, whatever gadgetry that Kevin Stefanski draws up for Marquis Goodwin who has a concussion so we don’t know if he’s going to be available this week. Or Elijah Moore who they traded their second round pick to bring him in from the New York Jets to promise and stuff that would more hadn’t worked and that great like it just it hasn’t I’m just being honest about it. Like I I, during training camp in the offseason, it was really exciting to watch him practice like, oh, man, this guy is going to be electric. And then they’re running it during games. And it’s not as electric as we thought it was going to be. And that’s

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Nestor Aparicio  17:49

like Odell Beckham here, except we electric to him for 15 million a year. So yeah,

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well, you know, I’ll give you a little tip onto Davian clowny get everything out of you out of them. You can this year and then let him walk in the offseason because that’s what happened with the browns. Like they got one really great year out of him. And they brought him back and the second year was just it did not go well. And in fact, he, you know, ended up talking his way out of Cleveland with some of the things he said toward the end of the season rip and Myles Garrett who was a really good teammate to him and ripping the organization for you know, prioritizing miles Garrett allegedly and things like that. So he wore out his welcome

Nestor Aparicio  18:25

estimate. Like there’s some you know, other Cleveland guys on our Beckham too, right? I mean, we got some guys that were Browns that hasn’t always been the case. I

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call this US ravens team that disgruntled browns because that’s i Yeah, Odell White is first touchdown in that blowout over Seattle this past weekend. But yeah, I mean, I feel like Odell is more named than he is superstar. Now,

Nestor Aparicio  18:51

I mean, I agree wholeheartedly, but that players love and they love that star. Like I mean, love that he caught a touchdown pass in the backup quarterback and Lamar Jackson looked like they had won the Super Bowl. Like I’ve never seen them are so enthusiastic. Odell

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was beloved here after his father, you know, put out that video critic, critical of you know, Baker Mayfield and whatnot. And here’s how beloved he was. Because in typical locker rooms when you have a guy that quits on a team and wants to leave and things like that, while you’re trying to win and compete, usually that locker room turns against you, while everyone except for Baker Mayfield would like we would take Odell back here in a heartbeat. We want him back. That is how beloved he is. So everywhere he’s gone, like and I don’t know where it came from, like I’m not the biggest Odell fan, but there was this narrative I remember when the Browns traded for him and I was you know, trying to get some background information on the guy just you know, seeing what we’re getting. All I heard you know what a cancer He’s a pain in the backside, this that and the other, and then my dealings with Odell were the complete opposite. Like, yeah, he was a little bit of a diva on the practice field. What but most star wide receivers are divas that just comes with the territory, the one handed catches and stuff like that, but whatever. But he was always respectful to the media and to reporters and made himself available to us. His teammates absolutely loved him. I certainly did not agree with how he and his father handled his exit from Cleveland. And I ripped him accordingly for that, but like this reputation, that he’s a locker room cancer, and he’s bad for morale, and he’s a meat guy and things like, I gotta be honest with you, Nestor, and I gotta be fair, that is not what I saw with Odell. And I think that that’s why he’s so beloved within locker rooms. He’s a generous teammate, always hooking his teammates up with goodies and things like that, you know, he puts in the work, puts in the time off the field to be great. You know, he made his money. He didn’t have to work his way back from injuries. And he did he busted his butt came back from an injury at the Browns actually earlier, because of all the work he did. He

Nestor Aparicio  21:03

won a Super Bowl after he left you. Right? I mean, literally, right. Yeah. So

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I mean, like, I just don’t understand that. I kind of feel like that in our business now. That we’re starting to, like the criticism of these athletes is isn’t like really tangible, legitimate criticism. It’s more like hate criticism. You know what I mean? Like being a hater, just you know, picking on a guy for the sake of picking on a guy. And yeah, Odell is a lightning rod. But like I said, I have to be fair and objective about it. And the guy that aside from his exit from the browns, he was fantastic to deal with in the media, and thoughtful, and his teammates absolutely adored him. So I don’t know where he got that reputation that he’s supposedly some kind of terrible guy in cancer, because I think that that is one of the most egregious, unfair things the media has done to a player. They’re

Nestor Aparicio  21:57

writers here he is right or wrong fan Oh covers the Cleveland Browns and occasionally the Indians and the Cavaliers and some other things, as well as he does out in the land of Cleveland. Make sure you follow him out on social media. If you’re interested in the game before the game after the game, all that stuff. If the Browns get back into this thing somehow How about these three teams made Cincinnati surging Cleveland surging Steelers winning, they win, they find they find ways to win. And then the ravens, maybe a cut above on the talent level or the expectation level or whatever. But now this week, the Ravens get these two big games. And the Ravens have a tough schedule. I mean, they they gotta they gotta go out to LA, they got about San Francisco, they gotta go down to Jacksonville. They got Miami coming into Pittsburgh coming in here to get you ain’t so today. I mean, between Cincinnati and Baltimore, two of the tougher schedules left the rest of the way. It’s a nice narrative to say seven and too late by full health. All y’all a lot of good things going on here in the land, the purple when you’re winning 37 to three and beating up on NFC playoff caliber teams in Seattle and Detroit couple weeks ago. I you know, this is usually where the boat hit some rocks a little bit. I mean, I don’t look up. So we’re gonna it’s gonna be 11 And two, if they are right, they’ll get my respect and love but if they they gotta get through these two games, and this division always sort of plays out that added last 28 to three was some chump quarterback month, two months ago and this and that. I have a feeling at 345 There’s a football game on Sunday. And I have a feeling it’s even worse on Thursday night when Joe burrow comes in here. healthier than he was the last time I think we’re we’re gonna see two different versions of the teams than we saw two months ago. Well,

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to your point. Yeah, I mean, that first meeting between the browns and ravens, you know, Deshaun wasn’t on the field and the Ravens were missing half their team. Now the ravens are relatively healthy to shine his back for the browns. I look I picked Baltimore in training camp to win the division. And I thought that they were going to be at least a divisional playoff team. In other words they get through wildcard weekend and they’re among the Final Four in the conference because I just I thought if healthy they are one of the better teams in the conference right now with the way they’re playing. I’m thinking they might go to the Super Bowl this year. You know, it just it feels like Kansas City is ripe to be knocked off this year. It

Nestor Aparicio  24:15

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looks like buffalo is just sort of you know,

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buffaloes I think buffalo is cooked their window is closing on them a little bit even though they do have Josh Allen but I look at Cincinnati. Cincinnati scares me too because they are surging. Whatever it is, they start slow and then once October hits lo and behold they rise from the dead. The Steelers. I don’t know what they’re drinking in Pittsburgh. They just won’t die. Like every time we think the Steelers are dead. They’re going nowhere. Whatever. Mike Tomlin I don’t know if it’s voodoo. I don’t know. I don’t know what it is. But the Steelers just will not go away. And they find ways to win. They play some of the most disgusting ugly football on the planet. But you know what? It’s beautiful to them because they win football games. So, right now if the playoffs start and now as you mentioned, like all four of these teams in this division, they’re in Baltimore’s the number two seed behind Kansas City. You got Pittsburgh the number five seed the only reason why it’s because they beat the browns in week two. The Browns are the sixth seed. The Bengals are the seventh seed, right and obviously a lot can change in one to two weeks here, but this division is living up to the hype. It’s the only division that has every team with a winning record in the NFL and look, I think I picked the Steelers to finish last but I said hey, Steelers might finish last in this division, but they may have nine or 10 wins when they do it. Like that is just how competitive this AFC North is the brown you mentioned, you know the Ravens guys y’all y’all the browns, they got you guys next week. Then they got to come home for Pittsburgh, back to back weeks on the west coast with Denver and the rams are actually going to stay out in on the west coast that week. To get ready for the Rams game they come home from Jacksonville. That’s going to be a dogfight then they’ve got Chicago at home traveled to Houston to Texans with CJ Stroud I did not think Houston was going to be as good as they are as fast as they are but that’s going to be a tough game for them. Then the jets. The Jets offense stinks but boy the Jets defense is really really really good. You want to talk about one injury completely destroying a season the Aaron Rodgers rod should be playing by

Nestor Aparicio  26:19

that dude. Yeah, probably

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I mean with with that. I mean he’s out there throwing footballs before the Monday night game and then of course the Browns wrap up against the one team in the division they can beat on regular basis and that’s Cincinnati so the brown schedule like what a couple of weeks ago I was like I was I Alba this scheduled look good they they’re gonna get fat toward the end. But now as the seasons kind of coming into the focus, I’m looking at the brown schedule. I’m like, this is a lot tougher than I thought it was gonna be a couple of weeks ago. So this is a really good competitive division all around and dare I say a good Browns football team is coming to Baltimore and they’re gonna be looking to upset the ravens and I think that they’ve got just as good a chance to do it. I don’t know that they’re gonna do it. But I do feel like that this is going to be a fun football game to watch especially with these two defenses going back and forth. We

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Nestor Aparicio  27:07

got all the AFC North teams playing at the same time at one o’clock a Packers are in Pittsburgh Steelers with three point favorites to win again. Bengals are seven point favorite home against CJ Stroud and they’re playing well we’ll see them next Thursday Darrell writers here he is in the land of cleave that rocks by the way. I did not make a three month trip out there for some breakfast or after the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame although I did see the entries. I’ll get out there again soon late. Last thing before I let you go um, because you do cover all sports. By the way your bobblehead collection, do you I mean I I have the belt buckles here and I don’t put them on the screen or whatnot. But is there one that’s more valuable? Do you have like a 1957? Chief Wahoo bobblehead? Do you have anything that’s a valuable one? Or are they just all modern giveaways? No,

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they are modern giveaways. But I actually had to insure my bobblehead collection because it I have some Lebra I have every LeBron bobblehead The Cavaliers gave away and those are worth something today obviously the NBA championship bobbleheads have some value to them some of the Indians and guardians bobbleheads like I’ve got the first set that they ever gave away that’s pretty bad, I guess. Yeah. So I got some pretty valuable bobbleheads in the case I keep the cases locked and things like that.

Nestor Aparicio  28:18

But I actually vacuum once in a while you don’t get that you know lint in there. Right little

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dust buster in there. You

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know that little hand thing? You don’t get why it looks so good. I thought I was talking to Geddy Lee Do you see the Geddy Lee shot in his in his the Geddy Lee Emporium where he’s doing that he’s doing the Christie’s Auction, go check the picture out, but you’re looking there. The one thing I see with Getty, he has a 1993 All Star Game duffel bag with the logo on it. Right next to him in the shot with all the Negro League baseball autographs. He has presidents. He has all of this baseball stuff that he’s auctioned off, and I saw a thing and I met getting in the buffet line at the gala in front of the Science Center. You never forget the moment you run into Geddy Lee over some Eastern Shore corn. You know and you’re like, hey Getty so good. He’s done a show and all that and I’m like yeah, but get he’s my guy. But it did your the image of your office does sort of look a little bit like the Getty Lee thing that’s circulating this week. Just got

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a little bit of a museum feel. I got Willie Mays baseball in the case over there. He may Chase now Willie Mays, the Willie Mays.

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I’m like, Hey, is it like Mays, you know? You hit like, Yeah, I know. You know why they were playing it when they were dragging the field in the beginning to the baseball side, which is really where I wanted to take this conversation to make you laugh, but Tito leaving. Yeah, really kind of an end of an era there. And you talk about winning 100 games here and having two playoff games and stinking and never making it? Yeah. Oh, Tito got him close. Grover before that. I’ve spent time here and I I think back to those moments with Albert bell in the dugout with Anna storm and like I was at all by the way, the snow game and 95 sort of showed up on my time. mine a couple of weeks ago, me and Chris Berman in the snow. So I think of baseball in the guardians and I saw that there’s like $250 million a stadium like I saw the erector set into the Jake there and they’re they’re doing things there. But we’re at what’s the state of baseball in the land? Cleef. Yeah, well, so

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they’re going to be in an ownership transition here in the next three to four years.

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We can only hope for that here. Can we please? Yes. You know, the ballparks

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undergoing it’s actually $430 million of work that’s going on 210 of that is a renovation and the rest of the other 200 plus million is capital improvements. But they’re basically turning in turning the upper deck in right field and down the left field line into an outdoor bar. Because I guess kids today they don’t want to sit in chairs and watch a baseball game I

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would have been way better sitting with Eric Singer who was the drummer from Kiss in there than I was up in the right field roof with Kevin act and night before art modell brought the Browns here like I literally was at that game. I freezing my ass off up in the

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great Cleveland Baltimore baseball memory that lives to this day and brings a smile my photo Alomar now Marquis Grissom hitting the home run and knock you guys out of the playoffs and said the Indians to the World Series

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it was Tony Fernandes.

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Yeah, Tony Fernandez in the 11th day great

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Tony Fernandez. So remember to

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set you guys home for the winter and set the Indians back assaulted

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by listen I know there’s two hours so it’s bad. I almost I almost killed someone that night like literally Yeah, but you

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know this they get you know, Tito’s done. He’s not retired. You’re gonna see Tito in a dugout somewhere in really you think? Oh 100% i Yeah, he’s, he’s in his mid 60s. He’s still got the passion for the game. But he had a lot of health issues in recent years here that impacted

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and look healthy. He looked in pain 24 hours a day. Yeah. So

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he’s he’s out they hired Stephen Vogt. He was the I think the mariners bullpen coach, former catcher former All Star catcher. Two time All Star tenure Major Leaguer spent a lot of time with the Oakland A’s as a player and things like that. So he’s the new manager, the ballclub certainly not going to make what Terry Francona made, because Tito was one of the highest paid managers no credit counsel. Yeah, he’s no current counsel did not get $8 million a year from the Cleveland guardians. But yeah, I mean, it’s gonna be interesting to see, you know, what his what his fingerprints are going to look like on this organization in this ballclub and how he fits with the this front office, I thought Kido and the front office fit well together. And they were very, because I mean, Tito left is the winningest manager in in Cleveland baseball history. You know, they every year they were in contention that I think it was, I don’t know the exact number off the top of my head was like 25 games in his 11 years that the Guardians we’re not we’re not mathematically alive for a postseason berth. Think about that. That’s incredible. They had a 22 game win streak under him they went to the World Series. Granted they did blow a three one lead to the Cubs that still stings but like I mean, it was one of the most successful eras in Cleveland baseball history under Terry Francona. So it’s gonna be interesting to see if, you know, vote who’s like around 3839 years old, can he come in and kind of pick up where Tito left off and continue this forward? Or are they going to go through a transitional period here where they have a season like they did last year where you know, they’re hovering around 500 or a little below 500 And you know, whatever but it this is going to be a very interesting couple of years with the impending ownership change that’s going to take place once the ballpark gets completely renovated and basically turned into a beer garden new seats, though they’re they’re putting in all brand new seats because well, is I talked to some of the old gateway employees. And they’re like, We got sick and tired of fixing these seats like stuck the the rest is so bad, the bolts are fused and, and all this evil

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and winters are a bitch dude. I mean, you don’t sit outside they do. They

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are they are brutal. So yes, the ballparks getting a pretty big facelift. They’re getting new clubhouses. Next offseason, the team Executive Office Building is getting completely gutted. By the way you’re gonna know it’s progressive field because they’re adding like 20 More Progressive Field signs and video boards to the outside of the ballpark. Remember the scene in Major League to where they come out of the dugout and Paragon goes, well, Roger Dorrans turn the place into the Yellow Pages while that’s what Progressive Field looks like there are ads everywhere. The ballpark is literally that seen in May. If you’re looking for a good proctologist, come on and check out Like that’s what it feels like when you walk into a progressive field because you’re just assaulted with all of these you know these ads but hey that small market baseball for you they got to get their revenue you know wherever they they can get it but yeah it’s gonna be an interesting transition both ownership wise in the coming years and then now going from Tito to vote in the dugout Darrell

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writer to set small market baseball you gotta get your revenue wherever you can get John Angelo’s thanks for coming on and being a part of that making the case for for all things moving our team to Nashville at some point dare I love having you on man i It’s such a shame that the browns in the in the ravens and the Orioles and Indians don’t get together more often. But the ahkamaat see it the Hall of Fame I’ll come and they’ll find a Pat Benatar will be put some will be happening in Cleveland. Oh, get me out there. But it’s always good to see you and it’s great to have you on and to get your perspective on all things. You should be sure to give him a love. All right. I will tell him you said hello. Land of Cleves where they still play baseball. I don’t know how many times if I was on the radio. I do know because we changed from cold to the Ravens. And I did in the 90 state colts a couple of times. I don’t know if they change the name of my baseball team if I could ever get used to it, but God bless all of you in Cleveland, Cleveland baseball. It’s like Washington football. It’s what I would say. I am Nestor we are wn st am 1570 Towson Baltimore getting ready for Browns ravens, Luke’s in Owings Mills and I’m here at Baltimore positive.com