The long Miles from Luskin’s to law to family and serving others

It’s been too long since we shared a crab cake chat with Baltimore lawyer Steve Miles, whose television advertising and advocacy for regular humans four decades ago is well remembered around town. Here at Faidley’s, Nestor and the former assistant state’s attorney “talk about it” in discussing the state of the world and issues, solutions and the law in America amidst Trump’s obvious criminality and protection by Congress.

Steve Miles’ Career Transition and Personal Life

• Nestor Aparicio introduces Steve Miles, a former State’s Attorney and TV commercial lawyer, and mentions his long-standing friendship with Steve.
• Steve shares his transition from a high-profile career to a more low-key life, including adopting two children from Vietnam and selling his law practice.
• Steve reflects on the challenges of adjusting to a less glamorous lifestyle and his new role as a nanny to his adopted daughters.
• Nestor and Steve discuss Steve’s age and how it has influenced his retirement and new activities, such as delivering food for a charity.

Steve’s New Role and Charity Work

• Steve explains his current role delivering food for a charity called “Silent Women’s Enterprise,” which helps refugees and immigrants.
• Nestor and Steve discuss the importance of community service and how Steve’s work helps provide for those in need.
• Steve shares anecdotes about his family and how they have adapted to his new schedule and responsibilities.
• Nestor highlights the significance of Steve’s work and the impact it has on the community, emphasizing the importance of finding purpose in retirement.

Political Discussion and Trump’s Influence

• Nestor and Steve discuss the political climate, particularly the influence of former President Trump and his impact on American politics.
• Steve expresses his frustration with the current state of politics and the reluctance of many to disengage from Trump’s influence.
• They discuss the corruption and manipulation of the legal system by Trump and his associates, including the pardoning of individuals involved in the Capitol riot.
• Nestor and Steve reflect on the broader implications of Trump’s actions and the ongoing support he receives from certain political figures.

International Perspectives and Personal Reflections

• Nestor shares his recent travels to South America and his experiences in Santiago, Chile, and Machu Picchu.
• Steve talks about his love for Santa Barbara, California, and how it has become his home after visiting his brother who taught there.
• They discuss the differences between living in the United States and other countries, including the cultural and environmental aspects.
• Nestor and Steve reflect on their personal experiences and how they have shaped their perspectives on life and politics.

Local Politics and Community Engagement

• Nestor and Steve discuss local politics in Baltimore, including the mayoral race and the involvement of various political figures.
• They express frustration with the lack of transparency and accountability from local officials, particularly in regards to nonprofit organizations.
• Nestor shares his experiences with local politicians and the challenges of holding them accountable for their actions.
• Steve emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the need for open dialogue to address local issues.

Media and Public Relations Challenges

• Nestor and Steve discuss the changing landscape of media and public relations, particularly the reluctance of public figures to engage with the press.
• They reflect on the impact of social media and how it has influenced public perception and communication.
• Steve shares his thoughts on the importance of transparency and honesty in public communication, especially during times of crisis.
• Nestor highlights the need for journalists to hold public figures accountable and the challenges they face in doing so.

Final Thoughts and Future Plans

• Nestor and Steve wrap up their conversation by discussing their future plans and the issues they hope to address in their respective roles.
• Steve expresses his commitment to continuing his charity work and finding new ways to support his community.
• Nestor reflects on the importance of staying engaged in local and national politics and the need for continued advocacy.
• They both express optimism for the future and the hope that their efforts will make a positive impact on those around them.

Steve Miles and Nestor discuss…lutions and the law in America

Sat, Apr 11, 2026 6:02AM • 28:33

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Maryland lottery, Baltimore positive, Steve Miles, former State’s Attorney, food delivery, charity work, Vietnam adoption, legal practice, political discussion, Trump, corruption, media influence, Santa Barbara, Epstein scandal, nonprofit transparency.

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SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Steve Miles

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 task Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. I have one of my favorite Baltimore celebrities on the show today. We’re here at fadeleys. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I have the new Maryland lottery scratch offs, and they, there’s four of them. These are the Maryland treasures. So we have ponies, we have boardwalk, we have birds and crabs, and we have a bridge, or two bridges, actually, the two spans of the Bay Bridge. I’ll be giving these out, and we cost this, and simonium on Thursday, Koco’s on the 23rd and then pizza John’s on May 1. I don’t know where I’m going to be after that. Luke’s coming down. It is an Oriole game day. I’ve seen some Oreo gear here. I have my Oriole throwback Jersey in the bag. I’m gonna give Luke a hard time when it all comes down. My friends at GBMC are keeping me healthy. Actually have a doctor’s appointment later on this month. First time I’ve had a check up in like, 25 years. It’s probably overdue. So and our friends at Farnham Dermer, I got my gear on. Luke’s gonna have his gear on. And I got Steve Miles here. Steven l miles, former State’s Attorney, TV commercial law man and my friend for three decades, and I haven’t had you on my show. I said, maybe ever. But used to call

Steve Miles  01:13

in once a while, once a while, Nestor. But now you have me when I’m formerly famous. You should have had me on when I was famous. That would have been better not doing

Nestor Aparicio  01:20

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any law. I can’t hire you if I get sued,

Steve Miles  01:23

don’t call you. I’ll deliver food for a charity a couple days a week. I’m a food delivery boy. I’ve gone down a little bit in stature

Nestor Aparicio  01:29

well, so people know who you are, the Luskin family. All you know you being on TV and being involved in one of my lawsuits at one point as well. What are you doing? Like, What? What? What happens to the guy who talked about it on TV? You had the science Kirk and Miles thing, and I still know those guys in the spring steam world. What happened? Like, give me the exit

Steve Miles  01:53

for Stephen l mile. The exit was, of course, it’s a hard adjustment when you go from going into like the prime rib on a Saturday night with no reservations, and getting a table like that to now with reservations, I’m lucky to sit by the men’s room, so it’s a big adjustment. But what happened was my wife and I adopted two kids from Vietnam. She works in the Attorney General’s Office as a lawyer, and then a coupled with that was I got, I got so many employees, you had

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Nestor Aparicio  02:20

to change your life in your 50s, right?

Steve Miles  02:22

I sold my practice. There’s only 55 when I sold it,

Nestor Aparicio  02:24

okay? I’m 57 so

Steve Miles  02:27

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way early. Okay, my wife would tell me I would come home every day with a low grade fever, and I just, I got too big. I just couldn’t hit it. Was always replacing people, because insurance companies would come in and steal your key employees, which is legally okay. And so it was a combination of that, and I became a nanny to the two girls we adopted from Vietnam. I remember

Nestor Aparicio  02:48

when you adopted the girls, right? Tell that story a little bit, because I not just that, it’s heartwarming and it’s human, and it speaks to who you really are. But I saw this. I mean, you were man about town. You had a grown daughter, as I remember it, and you fell in love around the time. I mean, I’ve been married 23 years. How many years you’ve been married? We just 30.

03:11

So it was around that

Nestor Aparicio  03:13

period of time that I you and I were friends, and I said I fell in love. You’re like, that happens all of us. Look at me. I got kids now, and like you had a whole second act as a human after you were famous and after your law firm. That I don’t think everybody knows. That part they know because they’ve seen you walking around with the girls, seeing the girls grow up now, girls got to be in their mid 20s, right there.

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Steve Miles  03:35

132’s and the others 28 oh,

Nestor Aparicio  03:36

my God, I remember the little girls.

Steve Miles  03:39

I know, like all they’re great, all that stuff that when you’re young, the old guys tell you, like, enjoy your life now, because you’re gonna blink and you’ll be old. It turns out the morons were right. I’ll be 83 this Sunday.

Nestor Aparicio  03:52

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82 years old. Three this Sunday.

Steve Miles  03:55

This I’m 8283 Hello. 83 your Sunday.

Nestor Aparicio  04:01

Yeah, no wonder you’re retired, yeah? Like being 65 I swear. Oh, you’re a lot older than me, because, I mean, you had older sports memories, and I remember, but I don’t think of you and I as being in different generations. You know, correct? You’ve managed

Steve Miles  04:17

to stay I’m pretty lucky, and I worked out all the time. They kept they kept me busy.

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Nestor Aparicio  04:22

No question about, like a golf geek or any of that, right?

Steve Miles  04:25

Not that, you know, it’s funny, like a lot of times, lawyers would come to me because I could, first time ever I went back briefly in about Oh 809, just for a little bit, for further because the kids had grown up. But the young lawyers would ask me, not even young guys about my age at the time, about retiring. Of course, several of them are like Jewish guys. And I would say, You’re What do you think you’re going to do? I’m saying, if you’re Jewish, so you can’t woodwork, what are you going to do? You know, golf. Where the Jewish guys gonna go with their hands? They’re orthopedic surgeons. And I say you’re gonna play golf every day for three weeks, and then you’re gonna be like the rest of those guys. All. You going to talk about is where you going to go for dinner, you know, that kind of thing, and how early can you get there, and how has your HDL scores and all that crap so, and I could see that’s not a healthy thing. So the girls kept me really, really busy. And then I went back to work in about, oh, eight or nine. I only advertised about a month 20 years ago. Oh yeah, no question about it, and then I stopped that again about, I guess, at least 10, maybe about 10 years ago. Well, what do you do every day? Well, I deliver food for a charity. I pick up food and or delivered two days a week, and usually I fill in on the third that’s only about two, three hours a day’s worth.

Nestor Aparicio  05:36

What charities you do?

Steve Miles  05:37

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It’s called a silent women’s enterprise. See, this is every year

Nestor Aparicio  05:40

since Chad steel threw me out of the ravens, I got thrown out of the NFL. Instead of doing Super Bowl week, which I did for 27 years, I do a cup of soup or bowl, right? Which I try to shed light on all there are so many people in the city Steve that do good thing that Mark Viviano drives food around now that he’s retired, like finding your purpose and your place in life after you’ve served your family, your community in that way. There’s just so many people like you that pitch in, pitch in. Don’t give

Steve Miles  06:11

me too much credit. When the when the pandemic started, I have my wife working in the Attorney General’s office, working full time from home. My eldest granddaughter, Kayla, was working full time from home as a financial advisor. My youngest daughter we adopted was in law school, online from the University of Maryland, and whenever I would make noise in the house like brief right, the capital letter. And now you got to understand the best part is, they’re on all different floors, so women too, yeah. Oh my god, brutal, brutal. I would start getting the capital letter text messages. Will you shut the f up? Only they didn’t end it with the word F and go outside and talk on the phone. So I didn’t want it to be like Jack Nicholson in The Shining house trap. So send them a wife. I says, this is not working out. So good. The three you got to go somewhere. Said, so that she got me a job delivering food. It’s workout. It’s a group. They provide everything that trying to get the people to stay all entered legally. They all have them in here. Legally. It takes two or three years to be vetted. I don’t understand how you vet these people to begin with, but they give them food, they teach them the language, they help them to adjust to a different lines. People can they can’t speak English. The 95%

Nestor Aparicio  07:25

of our Latinos. Well, I just spent two weeks in South America, so I’ve been brushing up on my Spanish. I had to have Spanish. I mean, I wasn’t gonna get anything I wanted in Santiago, Chile or in Machu Picchu if

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Steve Miles  07:35

I didn’t speak. But you can hear what they’re saying about the Ugly Americans and pull them up on it. But I deliver one day a week, six bags of groceries to about five different I mean serious amount, and then two other days, I’ll pick it up from places that give us a load of food, and I’ll pick it up and take it to headquarters, where they put it in refrigerators. And this

Nestor Aparicio  07:55

that I’ve done a lot with Maryland Food Bank and all of the local pantries right to talk about perishable foods, food that you know, maybe it’s scratched and dented to some degree, but can be involved in a meal over to Franciscan or our daily bread. There’s so many places in this city I know where people wake up every day

Steve Miles  08:14

and try to help no question. And like sprouts, I go, I have no connection with sprouts. About they give them a lot of food. Costco, they get a tremendous amount of food. Giant, they get

Nestor Aparicio  08:24

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spoiling it the way, maybe one day

Steve Miles  08:27

that they don’t give it, if they won’t give anything to these people with an expiration date that has been here, of course, they don’t do that. So it’s all gonna be safe. It’s gotta be safe, but the expiration date will be near. So rather than throw it away, they make arrangements, you know, for people like me to

Nestor Aparicio  08:42

pick it up. Pennsylvania Dutch, I buy the day old bread, you know, I’m okay with that, you know, yeah, not a day old donut. Stephen l Miles is my guest. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. GBMC and our friends at foreign a Dermer. We’re back out on the road doing the Maryland crab cake tour, but trying to get this guy on that you Sun yourself in Santa Barbara from time to time, right? I damn near came out there for that yacht rock show with Kenny Loggins at the Santa

Steve Miles  09:04

Barbara bowl, best place ever, the bowl.

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Nestor Aparicio  09:07

So I finally made it to the Hollywood Bowl last September, right to see the who and the Joe Perry Project. My wife was reluctant. She wasn’t going to go. Then she saw the pictures like, All right, I’ve seen it like LA that, much like, let’s go out. Let’s do this. And went to Dodger game, made her thing happen. The Hollywood Bowl was incredible. But you keep telling me that Santa Barbara bowl, it’s magic, even

Steve Miles  09:26

gonna be more better. Well, it’s magic. First off, Kenny Loggins lives in Santa Barbara that’s

Nestor Aparicio  09:31

why I knew was gonna be incredible show. But the

Steve Miles  09:33

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bowl is such a place that when it starts, you go in with a T shirt and shorts, and then when the sun goes down, and you got a dead view of the ocean. Now you’re pulling out your ski chat like that. So it’s beautiful. Every seat’s a good seat, and it’s a magic venue.

Nestor Aparicio  09:49

It really, really Santiago Chile was that way. I did not know that till I landed about a month ago, and when I landed, it was like 11 in the morning on a Sunday morning, it was sunny like it is here at Bailey’s. Day, and the plane started at the sand, and I saw these mountains in this valley and these mountains and this lushness and this aridity, like the red rocks. And I landed, I’m like, that’s one of those beautiful places I’ve ever been in my life. But like Vegas, 88 during the day, right? Sunsets at 615 it’s 52 degrees

Steve Miles  10:21

by eight o’clock. That’s what’s so great

Nestor Aparicio  10:23

about four seasons, right? In eight hours. Kind of, sort of, Santa Barbara.

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Steve Miles  10:27

You have like, three seasons in Santa Barbara itself, depending if you’re up high, if you’re down low,

Nestor Aparicio  10:32

what made you pick Santa Barbara?

Steve Miles  10:34

My older brother, his fur. He’s one of those few people that decided what he wanted to do and where he wanted to live. He wasn’t guided like outside events, like I was the only reason I became a lawyer, I knew I’d rather be a lawyer than going to Vietnam and get killed. Okay, so, so, so I’ll take that student deferment every day. But my brother, the only he only applied after he’s very brilliant, smart guy. He only applied to places to be a professor where he would want to have a quality of life. He taught at University of California in Santa Barbara and retired from there. So that got me going out there 8 million years ago to visit my brother and you fell

Nestor Aparicio  11:09

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in love with it was better than LA,

Steve Miles  11:11

oh, it’s, it’s a small, relatively small town like now the actual Santa Barbara towns, probably 80 or 90,000 people. It’s the closest place in California with mountains to the water. So physically, it’s beautiful.

Nestor Aparicio  11:23

Hour and 45 minutes from

Steve Miles  11:25

the airport. I used to fly into the airport the car there, then I bought a car and just kept it there after I bought a house there. So well,

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Nestor Aparicio  11:33

I know you’ve been I’ve never been to Santa Barbara. I’ve never been to Palm Springs, right? So I have a dear friend, Kim Manfredi, lives in Palm Springs, trying to get me after my Yogini. So I there’s still a few places left in my American bucket list, but I felt like running around South America. And do you have anything you want to say about the law and about Trump flaunting it and breaking the law? I mean,

Steve Miles  11:56

it’s ironic with that. In fact, I know how you feel. So I was talking to my wife, she and I share politics. I say, you know, Nestor is going to be on our team. We we got to figure out a position, because he feels about as strongly as we do. I’m trying to disengage. It, which is almost impossible, because you can’t there are how many to disengage.

Nestor Aparicio  12:15

I don’t believe that at this point. I believe you need to re engage. I understand this is frightening.

Steve Miles  12:21

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It’s beyond frightening. They have a person who wakes up every day with the mantra, who can I hurt today who says something negative about you know, even from the people that have served for him, that are no longer there, that have had criminal convictions, statistically, it’s so it’s such an anomaly, like you couldn’t hire this may, if you say, if you’re my vice president and Nestor rolling on a higher corporate people, right? You couldn’t find enough to fill the all the vacancies we had. So it’s, how many examples do you need? When he made the White House lawn a Tesla parking lot? When he it’s, there’s too many bad things to point on it. What’s will steal the

Nestor Aparicio  13:00

money out of the market, manipulating the

Steve Miles  13:03

stock markets. What bothers me more than him, he’s one guy. I remember when Lester Maddox, all time, racist Governor one of the southern states, wanted to be president. He couldn’t get any traction. What’s sad to me here is the fact that so many people still like him, the entire Senate and House representatives, Republican Party, I don’t know how they look in the mirror and shave, where they go along with everything he says.

Nestor Aparicio  13:27

If you went to any law school, you know he’s breaking the law, right? If you’ve read the Constitution,

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Steve Miles  13:31

been convicted constitutional

Nestor Aparicio  13:33

scholar to know that this, well, this, this isn’t legal. What’s the evilness

Steve Miles  13:39

of it? First off, the open corruption that he has going to the Supreme Court hearing to try to intimidate these judges, you know, and you grow up your whole life. We have a separation of power. We have the judiciary. We have this. We have that joke. Okay, that’s a joke now. It’s, it’s, I mean, how many examples they had a thing just the other day in the paper, the amount of people that he pardoned from storming the Capitol? How many of them have gone on? It was 12 of them have gone on to commit serious crimes. It was just an at the New York Times that they gave all the names, the details, everything serious crime. Well, the line

Nestor Aparicio  14:14

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about the election and believing that after 246 years of us having elections that have checks and balances in every way, the amount of money that the Elon Musk and the Russians and the Saudis and the China dirty money in politics, Elon Musk spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get him elected and said, I’ll go to jail if he doesn’t win the Elon Musk takeover of the government last year with the chainsaw Nazi boy all of that, right? I can’t believe my I mean, I went to South America for a couple weeks to get away from it. But to your point, we’re not really welcomed anywhere pulling out an American passport. Are just about

Steve Miles  15:01

everywhere at this point, you can understand

Nestor Aparicio  15:03

makes you targeted for being associated with him, and that is, it’s heartbreaking. As much as I love this country, and what this country has done for me, for you, for everyone here to sell it down the river to this criminal, is this far 10 years in, that this could still be not just popular, but the fact that they didn’t pull him out of the Oval Office threatening nuclear war three days

Steve Miles  15:31

ago, right? But they won’t, because, again, he still has enough money to help the guys, the Republicans, Democrat and the House of Representative, guys that are Republicans, to get reelected, and they still look at that pocketbook and his bait. The fact that his people, there are still people that like him, shows you how entrenched they are. There’s no way they would ever not vote for him. So the point is, the senators, the house separate. Guys are so afraid again, Trump is one guy. They could end this tyranny in one second. You know, the senators and delegates, which they don’t want to do because they, like they got there looking for his endorsement when they run again, and they want to keep the Republican Party, which to me, is an embarrassment. It’s just, I don’t It’s like my lost friends. Oh, I’ve absolutely lost friends because of the politics. I’ve lost

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Nestor Aparicio  16:17

a lot of friends now, and I have a few people that are still in my circle that as long as we don’t discuss it, but if we discuss it, it’s not going to go well, and

Steve Miles  16:25

I can’t hold back. We have the similar personalities a fairly recently, one of my friends, he says to me, how did the Democratic Party? I mean, do you think there would be they’re not just as bad as the Republican Party? I’d vote for the Communist Party right now, or the Republican Party, because it’s they go along with all this evil that Trump does. I mean, I mean, think I always thought it was a tough job, by the way, being president, I figured, like, I don’t want to be president. That’s like, God, you have to work 24 hours a day. He’s put that’s a myth. He plays golf two three times a week. He stays up all night, watching the talk show and raging, tweeting like that. I mean, you want he must have a heck of a constitution. I give him credit for that, and I give him credit for the phrase fake news. I wish I had had that in high school when Mr. Scro would pull me up in the hallway at Milford and say you were smoking in the bathroom miles, and I’d go fake news. Mr. Crow, fake news. I give him credit for that, and he’s also the first politician that realized you did not need the traditional media to get your votes.

Nestor Aparicio  17:28

That’s modern that’s because of why.

Steve Miles  17:31

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No question about it, all

Nestor Aparicio  17:36

started with Obama’s not an American, right? I mean, that was the beginning of this, right? And, you know, he’s

Steve Miles  17:41

going to issue a pardon for everybody he’s met or brushing his subway before he leaves office. For anything after he leaves office, they’ll give it to all his children. He’ll give it to the in laws, the son in law, whatever.

Nestor Aparicio  17:52

Well, the Melania drama was interesting here this week. I mean, right? The Epstein, part of this, if a young girl had come to you 20 years ago in your law office and said, I’ve been trafficked by wealthy men in and out of little st rape Island. Sure. And you know, nice girl grew up here, wound up in Palm Beach, somehow grandkids, she wound up involved in this. How in the world has this thing gotten 20 years deep into this, out of Florida, to the point where, and I’ll indict Rubenstein on this. David Rubenstein is trying to do business with this pedophile. 10 years ago now, he owns the Orioles Mara was on the island playing, you know, playing that game the Prince of England. I mean, you’re just in a general sense. How can that evidence have been as planted and deeply planted to protect all of these people like i That’s, I guess it’s a court it’s a Willy Wonka modern

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Steve Miles  18:52

it’s the connection of the rich, powerful guys that are so powerful you have an uneducated, either young girl or not even illegal, but so young, you’re subject to be trafficked like that that are really a powerless group of people. And if they’re going to call somebody and say, I want to sue this guy, Epstein, he’s worth X amount. He manages gazillions of dollars, and he’s and the president united states comes for a visit, you know, in Clinton and and, you know, in Trump, in this, though, I think they’re probably paralyzed to even come out with a complaint. And then when the one complaint was made in Florida, they kind of got all brushes brush aside, cause of the the amount of money that he has to give to local elections. Even in Florida’s involved

Nestor Aparicio  19:34

in that prior

Steve Miles  19:35

to but it’s and let and of course, you will never know, because so much of the stuff they gave, they gave out and released is redacted. So I would like to, I want to get the redacted stuff. In other words, the fact that they turned over X amount of emails and stuff like that, you know, what they turned over is not going to think bad about people that could be embarrassed or people who could turn on him. Don’t forget, Trump is

Nestor Aparicio  19:59

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why don’t you redact. Protecting anything involving sexual assault violence, to protect

Steve Miles  20:04

Trump and anybody other big names that give a lot of money to either Republican parties, maybe Democrat too. That’s why they redacted it’s it’s

Nestor Aparicio  20:11

protecting criminals is not what our government was set up to do.

Steve Miles  20:15

You know, there’s no question you would think the right way to have done it would have taken all that material, maybe had some retired, well thought of judge and give them the go through the stuff this.

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Nestor Aparicio  20:28

They didn’t reject the women’s names or the victims.

Steve Miles  20:30

No question. You can’t talk about the stuff he does. It’s that’s illogical. It belongs. If it was a, if it was an Archie Bunker series with him, it’d be the number one rated show in the world, the press and wake something goes Cuba, no electricity. This is an easy target. Let’s go take Cuba. Oh, wait a minute, they don’t have oil. We got enough sugar. Sugar. They got sugar. Let them go. Venezuela, they have oil. Let’s go there. And what we’re gonna do, we’ll start off. We’re gonna kill these poor people, not to defend them, who are running the stuff they make. The media makes it sound like they’re in they’re interrupting the cartel that some poor schmuck fisherman who might be making like $80 a week selling his fish that gets killed in the water. So, I mean, he’s a typical bully. He’ll never pick on anybody his own size. The End of story.

Nestor Aparicio  21:18

It’s amazing to me. He’s never been punched in that way.

Steve Miles  21:21

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We don’t know that he wasn’t growing. Don’t forget, when he was in college, you don’t know. You don’t know what,

Nestor Aparicio  21:26

how long he’s surrounded himself with people with guns, getting in and out of limos and getting out of buildings, taking all the Russian money to fill his buildings. I mean, the fact that he was over party with Putin and girls back in the day to think that whatever the compromise is for a KGB, a kg KGB, veteran of five decades, somebody said the other day, people think Trump’s playing chess and he’s eating the pieces off the board.

Steve Miles  21:57

No, of course, you wonder which is no evidence yet, but there’s got to be something going on that Putin has on him. There’s got to be something going

Nestor Aparicio  22:05

put a full endorsement on for Orban yesterday.

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Steve Miles  22:08

Same thing with net. I call Netanyahu because I’m Jewish, and I feel very Jewish, Jewish, but I feel the same way about their government as I do our government, an extremely right wing doesn’t make me

Nestor Aparicio  22:18

anti semitic to be anti dropping bombs and trying to starve your neighbors, and then that’s probably I’m anti Holocaust, because

Steve Miles  22:28

I love my Jewish friends. That’s part of the problem, of course, especially with and I got a lot of Jewish friends, if you, if you say anything critical, you know, Israel’s really amazing. I don’t know, and nobody’s explained it. How the extreme right wing Jewish people, extreme. We’re not even talking about Orthodox Jews. We’re talking another level. How they control that. They control Nestor, not the new tote, because if he’s not serving, he’s got pending criminal charges. But how? I don’t know if you know that or not. He’s, he’s, he’s waiting to go to criminal court if he leaves there.

Nestor Aparicio  22:58

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That’s why they support him. Food to neighbors, and they’ve killed three.

Steve Miles  23:03

We’re talking about criminal acts before he got that job, and how, how a group of people could take it. Or do you realize that, that I forget the name they give the group of the extreme right wing, Jewish extreme right wing, you know, their children do not have to go into the military, 100% but I said to you, is 100% true.

Steve Miles  23:25

Baron Trump will never that.

Steve Miles  23:27

I’m not talking about Baron Trump. The regular guys in Israel don’t have to go with they don’t have to serve. Not only that, if you sit around and study Torah all day, you get welfare benefits. You know you didn’t have to work. Now think about it. How could that little group, you know, and they’re the most want the war, the most, of course, because their children are don’t have to serve. So they’re the ones that push all this aggressiveness with rigor, with Nestor, not the new to toot. I keep

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Nestor Aparicio  23:55

Stephen l Miles is here. I knew we would get into politics. You still in Baltimore, six months young, near most time, most of the time. All right, so let’s talk about the bridge going down. Let’s talk about Wes Moore, Ed ale politics. Brandon Scott, I mean, you had businesses in the city. You live in Baltimore County. I live in Baltimore County. We’re voting. I’m having Nick Stewart on, Julian Jones, Pat young, I go through Izzy. I’ve had them all on. I don’t know. Man, I sit and talk to politicians now and I’m they duck me because they don’t. All of a sudden, you know, 10 years into me doing this like the baseball team ducks me like the football What the hell happened to accountability, not just amongst elected officials, but amongst lawyers like you that ran a law firm that wanted to set out, you had your own radio show, and you answered questions, because part of it is, I’m a citizen. I represent my company, other companies, what’s what’s been wrong with just having open conversations about hard issues? Because if it’s a hard issue. So no one wants to put a suit and tie on and get a microphone and even discuss it black and white in our city, rich and poor, left and right, all of these issues that the baseball team and the football team and their their obligation to $1.2 billion worth of welfare so that they could upcharge the richest people. Why not stand in front of it? I That’s the part of the modern era from the newspaper guy in me. Nobody ducked me when I was reporter at the sun in the 80s and early 90s. Part of it was, Oh, they’re the paper. We got to meet them on the stoop and at least give our side of the story, even if I bring my lawyer and I bring my publicist, or I bring PR with me. I’m going to meet you out on a stoop. I’m not going to pull the shades down and give you a fake phone number and turn the sign and say we have no comment.

Steve Miles  25:51

Yeah, it’s no, it’s pro No, even, like, here, like, like, Scott, mayor Scott. I was all excited for him, young guy, Pimlico. I spent a lot of time growing up in Pimlico, and this, that and the other and but now it’s getting with the stuff they want to, want to release for these nonprofits. And so it makes you think like, why would you not release it unless you got something to hide?

Nestor Aparicio  26:14

I feel that way about as a journalist. I’m 57 now you don’t want to sit and talk to me You’re hiding something, or you’re scared that you’re gonna give me the questions that you don’t want asked or the ones you do want asked, and I’m like, Who the hell would watch that?

Steve Miles  26:31

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Who would listen to that? Yeah, it’s maybe part of it is psychologically, their fear of social media that if you did. But again, it’s a

Nestor Aparicio  26:38

lady that runs the Orioles, okay, going on 98 rock for five minutes and talking about her event tonight, not coming on here. It’s like, what am I gonna bite? I don’t have a gun. Literally, I just, hey, give me your side of the story. Why has that become something to hide from that’s such a modern thing?

Steve Miles  26:57

I think, well, it’s a modern thing. And it’s also it’s been forever, like, I think back with with Clinton board, I like to been a flying on the wall, and his lawyer told him they got DNA from from his semen. Blue dress that she said was great. That would have been great. And but do you think even back then, if Clinton would have just gotten in front of the camera, had a rabbi in the right, had a black feature on the left, you know, and then wife and the family dog, whatever. And if he would have just have done that, and I did it, the devil made me do it. I’m horrible. I’m sorry, and they would have been over. You know what I mean? It’s thing about people’s reluctancy, like the mayor presuming it’s accurate that on these nonprofits, they he had people working for him that squandered it, or this, any other I screwed up, squandered and I took my eye off the ball for a minute. People go, Oh, he’s an honest marriage, telling us that I’m doing this country, no, it’s, no, it’s, it’s, well, the country is, look, he’s controlled the media. He the media is afraid of him because you could lose your job, you throws the press people out. Comedians, no, it’s, it’s, it’s

Nestor Aparicio  28:05

going after the comedian. What would Carlin say about this?

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Steve Miles  28:07

Steve Oh, he could do it would be rejuvenate his career.

Nestor Aparicio  28:11

It would just what already has on the internet. Stephen l Miles is here, the man, the myth, the legend. I have the first ever Maryland treasures, the Key Bridge. Where were you in that hat? Were you at Santa Barbara?

Steve Miles  28:21

You to here? No Can we take a two minute break?

Nestor Aparicio  28:23

We took a five minute break because it’s crab cake time. I got faintly here. We’re election to market. I’m back for more right after this. Stay with us. You.