Kicking off our new Maryland Crab Cake Tour live at Faidleyโs on Fridays at the new Lexington Market on Orioles home game afternoons, Luke Jones and Nestor discuss a long-awaited Baltimore Holliday at home with the new Action Jackson in the Charm City.
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Nestor J. Aparicio, Luke Jones
Nestor J. Aparicio 00:01
We are W NSG Taos. Baltimore. Baltimore positive we were positively here at fade lease. Itโs itโs new. Itโs beautiful. Itโs delightful. Look, Jones joins me here. Weโre gonna be here each and every Friday. Iโm gonna have Maryland lottery scratch offs. The minute I get them out of my bag. I had PacMan scratch offs, but itโs baseball season Luke, we have new ownership. Cal Ripken is involved in ownership. All the young guns Rob Jackson holidays debuting Everything good is going on here this weekend. Itโs good to have you Eurosonic crabcake, man. Yeah,
Luke Jones 00:34
it was crab cake was delicious. Thank you families for that, but so much excitement. I mean, I was thinking about it on my car ride down to downtown this afternoon and just thinking the draft is two weeks away. And the NFL Draft. Yeah. Right. And look, once that comes two weeks, you know, a couple Thursdays from now people be excited that that day will drown out whateverโs going on. I think the Orioles are off that night, actually. But thereโs a lot of excitement for that when it comes. But in the meantime, I feel like everyoneโs focused on baseball and specifically with Jackson holiday this weekend. First Friday night home game to kick off a three game set. Itโs the Brewers Corbin burns going against his former team on Sunday. DL Hall. Today, by the way, there you go. 75. Burns Khichdi. DL Hall is going to pitch Saturday, Joey Ortiz should be in the Milwaukee lineup. So you have all these storylines, but oh, yeah, it comes back to Jackson holiday. And not just Jackson holiday. Jackson trio, one of the other 20 year old Jacksonโs in Major League Baseball right now on the other side, and heโs off to a really good start. So there are so many for for a mid April, Siri can ask for more. The brewers are off to a good start. You know, theyโre an interesting team, because I think when everyone saw the burns trade, your assumption is all right. I guess the brewers are rebuilding, but we still have a lot of really talented baseball players, including a couple former Oreo prospects that are now in the mix there. And I donโt think they consider themselves being written off whatsoever. They knew they werenโt going to sign Corbin burns long term. But I think they felt like okay, letโs make this move. But we still have a lot going for us. They signed Rhys Hoskins in the offseason as well, and theyโre off to a decent start. So, you know, itโs mid April baseball, that the significance of the series itself as it pertains to the standings isnโt really there yet other than just won a 162 or three of 162. But now thereโs, thereโs some buzz, thereโs definitely going to be some energy throughout the weekend, at the ballpark. And what more can you ask, I mean, the clubโs off to a good start a sweep at Fenway Jackson holiday, I got it first couple games, itโs been a little rough, but heโs 20 years old. Let the kid just go out there and play and come up Pereira and a couple of weeks and see where he is at that point. But thereโs just so much to be excited about as an Orioles fan at this point in time on the field, off the field, of course with new ownership. And I mean, itโs just you hear the skyโs the limit a lot in sports. I mean, thatโs one of the more popular sports cliches talking about good teams. But the Orioles the possibilities do feel limitless right now for them as it pertains to whatโs on the field. Whatโs coming off the field in terms of ownership and what all thatโs going to entail that I think back to the good old days. And they always said it was great to be young and an Oriental. And I think that thatโs true for the Orioles. But I think itโs especially true for this fan base after not a whole lot to write home about for really the last 40 years.
Nestor J. Aparicio 03:33
For me with this brewers thing and then like the AFL NFL thing, and how do you feel about not seeing the Yankees more not seeing it? Maybe some of the Red Sox reporters? Look, I grew up on the brewers. Man, my dad would take shorts he called well pitch and, you know, obviously, the sister less Connor was my guy donโt see these teams much. And when I see a team when Milwaukee and I think about corporate burns, if they can, well, they didnโt have the money to sign him. And I go back to this all we need to be a franchise that has the money to sign that kind of guy. Grayson Rodriguez might be that guy for sure. years from now. Right? Yeah, I
Luke Jones 04:07
mean, I look, there are two two factors at work here. And we talked about this when the Royals had gotten their payroll up to about the top 10 range in the Duke era, you know that there was a point where they got to that point, theyโre spending money, thereโs also spending it wisely and you want to be able to do both, right? You want to be in a position where yes, youโre going to be a team that that clearly values player development, whether itโs few, or whether itโs through the amateur draft, or the international market where the Orioles are starting to really make some hay there. But you also want to be in a position that when you draft and develop and bring these guys to the major leagues that you can then keep them for the long haul. That doesnโt mean youโre going to sign everyone that doesnโt mean you should sign everyone a couple years ago. People were talking about oh are the Oracle is going to extend Cedric Mullins or the Oracle is going to extend Trey man senior the Oracle is going to extend someone like Austin Hays and I The challenge right now and say thatโs probably those probably wouldnโt be the best investments at this point in time. So the point is that Santander home run the other. Sure. And look, Iโm not. Iโm not saying that there arenโt scenarios where if some of that makes sense, but the point is, youโre not going to keep everyone there is going to be a certain amount of roster churn. And thatโs healthy, you know, that. The Ravens I think, would still operate that way. Even if the salary cap was exponentially higher or non existent. I think thereโs still something to be said for younger, cheaper, better. And you know, it was just a few weeks ago, you and I talked about this a lot. And I wasnโt the only one because Colin counters up top five pick just a few years ago, but there was a lot of talk in terms of how are the Orioles going to get him into the lineup when you have these three outfielders who had been here, weโre here when it was terrible. They were here to see the turnaround through in the case of Mullins and Hayes, two guys have been to all star games. How are you going to get Colton Couser into the lineup, and I just said, you have to be able to make it work because these guys get to triple A, and you talk all you want about a top farm system, well, you then need to integrate them, you then need to start to work them into the mix. And that doesnโt mean Austin Hayesโs buried now moving forward. Colton Couser could go for his next 20 Weโre having a different conversation. Get
Nestor J. Aparicio 06:19
his way, my favorite Oriole early on right now. Right. But
Luke Jones 06:22
the point is, you have these great young players there. You know, weโve talked a lot and we talked about this a lot. Last year when it came to the trade deadline. We talked about that inflection point, right? Weโre at a point now talking about the Oreos, where youโve had a team thatโs won 100 won games been to the postseason won the Division last year. Fantastic, right? But we know that thereโs more talent on the way and the reality is Nestor Iโm not saying all those guys are going to be better not all those guys are even gonna pan out. But some of the guys that are playing in Norfolk right now are going to be better than guys that are playing ball in Baltimore right now. And theyโre gonna be younger, theyโre going to be cheaper. And yes, that still is going to matter regardless of new ownerships. So itโs all about a churn itโs all about kind of said thereโs kind of miss Logicalis gotta go roster wants
Nestor J. Aparicio 07:08
feelings hurt feelings, and where the tree man see anything was me Houston turn players over down there early on, you know, some guys that were there in the beginning, werenโt there when they were piled diving after they cheated, I might add. But thatโs gonna happen here. I donโt know if if they win a World Series this November, because it never happens in October. But when they win this October, and they go on a run, one of these guys are gonna be here. I donโt know who it is. I donโt know if theyโll do mountcastle, whether they would do Molins, whether they would do Aโs. I get the vibe that the team will be constructed. As we sit here. Itโs not even Tax Day. Itโs not even April 14 yet. I can sit here and say six months is a long time in in a baseball season. Oh,
Luke Jones 07:53
boy. And even more. So just the trade deadline. I mean, thatโs not even six months. Thatโs another, you know, three and a half months away. So yeah. And we look at this roster. And look, I talked a lot about the bullpen in the offseason. Iโm not moving off of that. Although the bullpen has been very good early on and thatโs great and that I never thought the bullpen was going to be bad. Itโs just a matter of do you have enough guys that are going to handle high leverage when you donโt have Felix Batista coming through that bullpen door in the
Nestor J. Aparicio 08:18
night? Who you think the star is going to be and who itโs going to be? I mean, they picked the guy up yesterday. They did right? I mean, again, we keep going back to Fuji, and we keep going back to Coulomb. Right? Yeah, thereโs your upside. Thereโs your downside. I mean, and also Cano Cano. Obviously, thereโs your upside now as your downside of your upside, because heโs going to the Hall of Fame. If he was gonna do may, for the rest assure Sure.
Luke Jones 08:41
And no one and of course, he wasnโt gonna keep that up. But then it becomes Okay, we have a closer you have closer but then itโs a case of okay, is he going to be a legitimate, reliable eighth inning guy who can close games on occasion. Now he tried to close the game a few days back, it didnโt go so well. But thatโs gonna happen to coulomb gave up a home run at Fenway on on a Thursday night. You know, youโre youโre going to have some of that. But in the meantime, and I think this is you pointed this out. I know a lot when we talked about this during spring training that, you know, Mike Elias, chances are things that weโre talking about that are potential concerns, potential pitfalls for them. He and the baseball ops department, theyโre well aware, right? Theyโre looking at, you know, theyโre running harder than the fan. Theyโre running the projections, theyโre running the simulations in terms of okay, you know, we brought this guy in or this guy who pitch really well last year but we know how relievers year to year are very unreliable. Thereโs so much noise year to year, you know, for every Mariano Rivera, thereโs 100 guys that have a really good season and then theyโre terrible the following year, right. I mean, itโs, itโs just how it works. So I think heโs viewing it through the lens of we have plenty of capital, plenty of resources to go make moves when we need to. So letโs wait letโs evaluate with what we have. Our bullpen is not so bad or our rotation isnโt so bad that weโre not going to be right in the thick of things. At least so letโs evaluate. Letโs make sure that weโre not acquiring something that we donโt really need if someone emerges and is just unbelievable, like Felix Batista two or three years ago, and letโs evaluate and oh, yeah, that that reliever that was really good for the Cincinnati Reds last year. Iโm just making that up. Iโm not even sure. He might not be as good this year. So we acquire him in spring training, or we acquire him in April, and we might get our feelings hurt. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 10:26
well, the twins were looking at canola in June and saying what do we do? Yeah, yeah,
Luke Jones 10:29
I mean, look, I mean, canola, we talked about that a lot. Jorge Lopez, two years ago, I talked about that a lot in terms of, were you getting enough upside there and you end up have you have some pitching prospects, this was a genius in that deal. And there, but thereโs another perfect example, Jorge Lopez, since that year, where he was an all star reliever, itโs gone sideways. For him. Again, relief pitching is just so noisy. Itโs so noisy, that itโs so important, especially in this day, and age where starters arenโt going more than five or six innings in most cases. But at the same time, itโs really, really slippery trying to identify whoโs going to be really good, who you should commit money to who you should commit multi year deals to, which is very few and far between. So you know, in the meantime, you have Keegan Aiken pitching really, really well for them in April. Now, is he going to keep that up? Is he going to be an eighth inning guy for them come June or July? History would say probably not. But maybe he will be. And then hey, you have another high leverage guy instead of a long reliever as he was projected to be. So the point is timbrels
Nestor J. Aparicio 11:34
gotta be good. Yeah, sure. You know, when Kimbrough comes into game in the ninth inning, he canโt he canโt be blown safe,
Luke Jones 11:40
no question, no question about it. At the same time, when they acquired him, when they signed him, they threw all their statistical models where theyโre looking at all the different outcomes of what they think heโs going to be based on his age based on what is statistics were, what his biomechanics were last year, velocity, all those different things. None of those scenarios projected out to him being as good as what Felix Batista was last year. So the point was, this was always going to be an ensemble effort in terms of replacing someone like Batista. And by the way, even if Batista was healthy, he might not have been as dominant this year, as last year. Right. And again, that was that was the other part of it too, just the workload in general. So, you know, I mean, itโs it. Itโs an open, itโs a living canvas, right. I mean, we talked about this a lot with the ravens, and weโll get to football at some point in time in our conversation that, you know, Eric Decosta, at the pre draft luncheon this past week, said, weโre not preparing to play football in May. Weโre preparing to play in September. And, you know, the Orioles arenโt preparing to play October baseball right now. They need to play well enough to get there. But thereโs a lot of ongoing evaluation. And it brings it back to the point that you made that come August 2, you know, August 15, September, October, of course, yeah, this roster is gonna look different. And it might be some prospects that are down at triple A Norfolk being traded, or it might be an Austin Hays combined with a couple of prospects to go get a reliever or go get a starting, you know, whatever it would be. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 13:07
another number for starting pitcher, are they are they looking for something now? Bradish. And means youโre in a different category for this organization. First, they expect to win the World Series, they expect to win the division and theyโre going to be competitive. They know these are two issues that theyโre waiting on that and Kramer can hold some water and wells and you know, are the guys that theyโve been working with. But Iโm trying to project into June and July saying all right means is no good or not good enough or
Luke Jones 13:39
isnโt healthy isnโt
Nestor J. Aparicio 13:43
Bradish takes the knife. Terrible things happen? That because you have to whatโs the worst case scenario to prepare for the worst worst case scenario would be a major leaguer a key prospect and some other Delaware? River Valley mud? For a pitcher that would probably look like Tyler wells or Cole Irvin or somebody I owe Gibson? Kyle Gibson. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. Look, yes, the
Luke Jones 14:09
stock answer is you never have enough pitching. Right? I mean, weโre seeing whatโs going on around baseball with, you know, the Tommy John epidemic that isnโt new to this year. I mean, itโs something thatโs been ever increasing for a long time. I think itโs just magnified when you see how many big names have gone down this year. So yeah, I think youโre always going to be looking for starting pitching and because of what you just mentioned, me, John means is three rehab starts in I think he threw 60 pitches, his last time out for Norfolk. So heโs probably realistically two and a half weeks away, maybe Okay. Well, again, what does again, what does it look like though? How effective is he? Whatโs the velocity look like? Is his elbow feeling good as he recovering every fifth day? You know, means or, excuse me, Bradish he read or he joined single a Aberdeen first start was gonna get washed out there pitching right under
Nestor J. Aparicio 15:02
the knife. Theyโre not right. And look, I mean, in
Luke Jones 15:05
the case of means, my understanding and and as itโs been explained, you know, going back to the start of spring training, if you recall, everyone thought he was gonna be there number three starter in the Division Series and then Brandon Hyde announced, you know, he had some elbow soreness from the sim game that he threw, they shut him down. What they did was they basically shut him down for a couple months after that. And they just said, Look, you rehabbed you got back, you pitched well, in September, weโre not playing any more meaningful games for another five months, whatever it was going to be, weโre going to slow you down, weโre going to slow play, because we know youโre not going to come back in your first full year back from Tommy, John and throw 200 innings anyway. So letโs slow play you were going to start a little bit later, for the start of spring training, you started throwing progression, all that youโre not going to pitch in the spring, youโre not going to pitch the first three weeks of April, not really unlike what they did last year. I mean, little bit. I mean, he was still recovering. I mean, waiting on it, right. I mean, he was still on the recovery. And remember, he actually had he had a backer lat strain that kind of slowed them down to, you know, as he was getting closer and closer to pitching. So the point is, they said, This isnโt an April move, this isnโt a main move. This is a move for September and October. Again, this is a move for wanting you at your best later in the year. So it means his case, I donโt really think and again, you never know because itโs Tommy John surgery. And even though itโs a 90 plus percent return rate, itโs not 100%. But I donโt think there was a concern with him as much as how heโs feeling as much as just heโs just got to build up so and then weโll see how he looks Bradish to me now is where it becomes interesting. He threw live batting practice, itโs gonna get on the Hill for Aberdeen at this point, competitive, legitimate professional baseball, albeit at a lower minor league level. Howโs the elbow responding, then? Howโs he feeling where itโs max effort, heโs thrown off his pitches to this point. So far, so good. Itโs great. I mean, he could have been shut down the second week of March after the initial announcement and already be a month into Tommy John recovery. So heโs made it farther than I think a lot of people thought he might at this point. But to me, this is now where we say, Okay, how real is this? Whatโs the Velo look like? What what the pitches look like? How are you feeling? Howโs the command command is often the thing to go before velocity when youโre talking about elbow and shoulder issues? So notes, so far, so good. But Longโs long answer to what your original question was? I think youโre definitely going to be looking for what would be rotational desk,
Nestor J. Aparicio 17:28
if weโre sitting here. When the Ravens kickoff September 12, theyโll kick off weโll get the schedule next week, right? Yeah. Whenever they kick off to think that we can project what the rotation would be, and whoโs in it, and how their pitching and how theyโre going to feel in October, you better hope burns and Rodriguez sure are I mean, those right, and that you youโre playing, you know, 610 ball at that point, or you know, 590 ball, whatever youโre going to need to be to be that team. And who who, what is the rotation? I mean, I sent some flipline to you the other day about does that make Kramer the number four the number five, Iโm assuming thereโs a three man rotation in October, early going, and Iโm assuming we know who the number one and two are. If they hold up who would the three in the four or the five be theyโre not gonna go up four or five.
Luke Jones 18:18
I mean, four man rotation you do? What is your third?
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:21
And these other guys are there and you never hear from means again? You never hear from Bradish again this year. A cat with the bullpen? Can Can they went 92k Can they can they get to the forest? Yeah, right. Can they get to October and what kind of position are they going to be in? If what they have right now is all they have? I guess thatโs what Iโm saying. Yeah, if theyโre gonna mean scuffled through four and five every night, and have Cramer be sort of a tweener. And even Rodriguez got beaten up early? Yeah. In Boston the other night?
Luke Jones 18:49
Nobody recovered pretty nicely. Yeah, rookie. Yes.
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:52
I mean, so weโre, weโre talking about the dude like, heโs Jim Palmer. Sure. Heโs rookie,
Luke Jones 18:56
you know, and heโs been really good since the all star break last year. But
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:00
you really, were at the point where we were with with an early Missy, youโre relying on us, youโre lying on a young guy to be a top of the rotation guy for a team thatโs not hoping to win expected to win. Yeah,
Luke Jones 19:14
I mean, I right. And thatโs, thatโs not a bad thing, right. I mean, heโs 24. Like,
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:19
heโs talking about this stuff down here with Pac Man tickets. Yeah. Iโm talking about a contending team. You and me have a crappy they
Luke Jones 19:25
were contending last year. I mean, they were motors. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Itโs itโs fun but but a lot of what you just laid out you know what? Thatโs most contenders other contenders other teams. I mean, look at the Astros now. I mean, first of all, theyโre off to a bad start. new manager obviously. So you have the dusty effect. And a couple pitchers starting pitchers on the shelf now. I mean, itโs, itโs like a dicey for them. Theyโll probably be okay. But, boy, you talked about the Orioles job rotation questions, just just the general ones weโve had, you know, since the announcements about Bradish and means at the beginning of spring training, but You know, look at the Yankees, Gerrit Cole, I
Nestor J. Aparicio 20:02
was gonna say look at the Yankees. They got questions. I mean, why they havenโt won a World Series in 15 years. Thatโs the first thing. Youโre
Luke Jones 20:07
right. Absolutely. 15 years, although I donโt want to hear about it after 40. But before going on 41 But, but thatโs, thatโs why I said, you know, in the same way that Ozzie Newsome said, you can never have too many corners. You can never have too many starting pitchers. I mean, itโs just the truth. And by the way, your premise, you said it about, you know, with Corbin burns and Grayson Rodriguez, but like, you want to keep these guys healthy in general. Like theyโre already you know, went out on an extra day this week and that pushed Irvin to eighth day. Yeah. And with this guy, because they didnโt want to have Yeah, happen. Yeah, yeah. And youโre gonna do that for donโt really have a five man rotation, right? You have a four and a half. Really, with all these off days. You know, obviously, you get into the meat of the schedule, you have a little bit of less of that. So hide in general wants to give these guys an extra day when they can. They flipped burns and Ervin because they didnโt want burns gone a whole week because there were two off days right in between his turn. So, you know, I just think itโs, you know, Corbin as your number five. Thatโs not great. Itโs not what they drew up over the offseason. Right. I mean, he would have been kind of more like 35 Exactly. Exactly. Was
Nestor J. Aparicio 21:12
the January Kramerโs there five Sure. Look for the weekend. Absolutely.
Luke Jones 21:16
And when we see how heโs pitched well, you know, heโs pitch really well. So you know, he started game three Iโll be it didnโt go well for I mean, I
Nestor J. Aparicio 21:24
talked to you a couple of weeks ago, I donโt remember where we were. We were somewhere and just about the the Atlanta Braves and having that sort of young, weโre going to compete, weโre gonna golf together. Weโre gonna do crosswords together. Weโre gonna fish together, weโre gonna compete together. Weโre, you know, you got Monday, I got Tuesday, if you know, if you give up three on Monday, I gotta give up two on Tuesday, right like that? Well, and that kind of, and thatโs what
Luke Jones 21:48
was fun about Corbin burns, whoโs not young, heโs 29. You know, heโs young. Heโs not old, but heโs not as young as these other guys. But Grayson Rodriguez. I mean, we talked to him after his first start, which was really, really effective. He said that, you know, burns talked a little bit of trash like it was playful competition, but itโs still competition to say, hey, I need to one up. But but but thatโs what you have. And you bring in someone like Corbin burns to be what Kyle Gibson was last year only way better individually. And Gibson was better than what, you know what Jordan Lyles was the year before that. So this is like, version two or version three of that veteran presence. But oh, yeah, this guy won a Cy Young Award just a few years ago. So I mean, itโs exciting. It really is. And look, knock on wood cross your fingers say a little prayer. That guy stay healthy, because itโs a big part of it. You mentioned the Braves. I mean Spencer Strider, how amazingly talented he is. And now you know heโs hurt. You know, youโre seeing it across across baseball. So quarterback get hurt. Why do you need as much as this? Well, that quarterback goes down like that. Thatโs thatโs one entity that itโs over baseball. Itโs not like that, unless you have
Nestor J. Aparicio 22:53
down right now without a means and without a Bradish they would really pin a lot of trouble. Now, I mean, could they still be a wild card or something like that? Sure. That would be something theyโd really have to go out and trade something of, theyโd have to trade towels or to get a pitch you?
Luke Jones 23:05
Yeah, I mean, it would be? You would you wouldnโt have that guy that you say, Hey, hereโs our game, one starter. I mean, you know, assuming Bradish doesnโt come back.
Nestor J. Aparicio 23:16
stupidly. And let
Luke Jones 23:18
me be clear, I donโt want to assume that paratus isnโt coming back. But letโs say he comes back. But we get a lesser version of Bradish than a year ago. Yeah. I mean, that wouldnโt be a good scenario for them. But thatโs every team. Again, there are very few teams out there where they are looking at their top four starters and saying, Wow, weโre we have no questions whatsoever. We have no health concerns whatsoever, anything like that. So yeah, I mean, this team just, they have a lot going for them and itโs not perfect. But they I mean, itโs funny, I made the joke to my brother the other day, I was watching MLB Network on TV, and they have their show MLB Central, which has like Mark de Rosa has, you know, Robert Flores, Lauren shahadi. And they have now they have Sean Casey on some. Itโs actually of those types of that genre of sports shows. I actually enjoy that one on like, very many out there. But I joke to my brother I said you know what, if this was Eddie team at the Orioles, you know what Iโd be saying right now oh my gosh, all they do is talk about the Yankees or all they do is talk about the Braves or all they do is talk about the Dodgers. Theyโve talked about the Orioles all week, like
Nestor J. Aparicio 24:23
all week Jackson. You talked about him being a dugout Fenway the other Yeah, I mean, Bostonโs got a huge contingent of national media that are just like in that area. It was must see for media people in Boston on Wednesday. Like itโs gonna be musty here this weekend. Absolutely. Oh, thereโs
Luke Jones 24:39
a lot of excitement there. And again, the Jackson holiday Jackson, cheerio, the storyline, the trade, storyline, all of this but when you have a 20 year old, that youโre calling up, and you know the scenario for this is different than Manny Machado had 11 years ago because that was such a very specific need that the Orioles had at that point in time. They donโt need Jackson Holliday right now. And I donโt say that in terms of, yes, he improves her upside. Yes, heโs better than
Nestor J. Aparicio 25:08
what they had, which means how convicted they were bring them up. But thatโs the whole the whole idea
Luke Jones 25:12
of youโre bringing in this type of a talent at this age, this rapid of a development to augment a team that won 101 games last year. I mean, that is so exciting. I mean, when Machado got called up, you know, it was very surprising. But they had such a need at third base, because that Wilson betemit who couldnโt, you know, maybe maybe he would feel every other ground ball, you know, hit a little bit, but not so much that you could accept his defensive shortcomings. So Manny came up and the idea was, you know, we donโt need you to be a superstar, but we need you to play good third base. So I think from that standpoint, holiday, is that an advantage because heโs not being caught up and being placed in the three hole immediately or anything like that. Heโs not in a position where they need him to carry them offensively. So thatโs where I said, yeah, heโs struck out a little bit more than youโd like to see the first couple games and itโs looked a little choppy, thereโs no doubt but thatโs okay. In the meantime, they have eight other guys are putting out in their lineup that, you know, maybe not all of them are hitting, but a lot of them are hitting, and you know, you have all these guys that are established and you know, youโre youโre good with Jackson Holliday getting his feet wet. And, you know, if he goes over the weekend, Iโm still not going to be panicking at that point in time. Just let him go out there and play,
Nestor J. Aparicio 26:36
but Iโm just making sure I can give him a PacMan lottery ticket because
Luke Jones 26:39
he says he was gonna say he is 18 Yes, yeah. Okay. Heโs 20 and married. Fully
Nestor J. Aparicio 26:46
20 year old kid even knows what Pac Man is? Or do you
Luke Jones 26:48
probably not know? Yeah, thatโs actually a really Thatโs funny.
Nestor J. Aparicio 26:52
Did you play Pac Man? Yeah, I had,
Luke Jones 26:54
I had an Atari. I was thinking he was being young. But I had an Atari that said, Youโre cool. I had an Atari that was a hand me down from my older cousin. I was always I was always the kid that got the video game system a couple years after it came out. So like Nintendo, when it went from Nintendo to Super Nintendo thatโs when I got a Nintendo finally when it went from Sega Genesis to super Sega or whatever it was. Thatโs when I got a Sega Genesis. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 27:18
never had a gaming device when I was in. Yeah, I had baseball cards, Miss
Luke Jones 27:21
Pac Man who has the bow, right? You know? Thatโs actually Iโve
Nestor J. Aparicio 27:25
just said itโs a joke from Wayneโs World and prize but for this, where you get the big game, right, and I keep saying to John Martin, I played a Pac Man Machine over CFG Bank Arena a couple a couple of weeks ago, in their their vault room and they had a big machine and the joystick was sticky. You gotta get that joystick where it works a little joystick and get your blown up. If you know, bad joystick, bad game. Pac Man good game Mariela, we bring it to you here our friends at Liberty pure as well as Jiffy Lube. Balti care weโre failures is the new and improved Dare I say calking approve on a failures crabcake I donโt think it says right here Alan Richmond all others were forgotten. However the moment I tasted the big lump crab cake at John W fade the seafood so weโre gonna give a shout out to Nancy and Bill who are recovering but theyโre gonna have a grand opening down here. Weโre at the new Lexington market. Lukeโs already had his first Lexington Market New Lexington market crabcake I had my second because I was hearing nobody deck one of us has a press credential. And one of us is under review right now weโll let you know which one that is. But itโs when we get a great baseball here. Cal Ripken new ownership number seven Jackson holiday even a brewers I can get even for 1982 and get after Harveyโs wall bangers. Iโll come down to see us weโre gonna be here each and every Friday, two weeks from today. Weโll be here again. Sheila Dixon. Shannon Sneed, both running for public City office sub Shannon Sneed running for city council president of course Sheila Dixon, former mayor running for mayor again, weโll be here a little later on. We got John Allen this week of a Keith Brewer this week talking about the 25th anniversary documentary, which is going to break into news. Itโs coming out at 508. On April the 25th. Right before the NFL draft and the Ravens pick late in the night, give you half an hour to sit around and watch my crazy life story have really really good photos of Luke. Luke is very photogenic. He looks much younger than me in a lot of this. But I do look young in the beginning of this because I was young in the beginning of this 40 years into this 32 years into sports radio 26 years now into wn S T. And itโs the first time you sort of been live in downtown during pregame baseball. Glen Clark and I did something maybe 2012 with a team that decent and for a minute. We did a couple of things like on cross street, but thereโs nobody down on cross street at two oโclock on a Friday 100 game right? Iโm talking 15 years ago. I used to be at Hooters live 92 3456 to about 99 Ami, the first seven or eight years. Iโd like to syndicate because then I couldnโt plan anything. I had no way to do the show who to write in 19 I in 2000 2001 we never really went back. I never did the show there again. Itโs been 25 years. But it feels good to be downtown. Watching like at this hour itโs early here two oโclock, you know people are walking by see your random city connectors your hat. Yeah, dude, youโre gonna leave early because heโs got a press credential. And Iโm going to be here talking to Sheila Dixon and Isha and see but by the time Sheila Dixon leaves here at five oโclock, Smithโs gonna be acids and elbows gonna be orange. Sheโs gonna be Jackson holiday, a lot of buzz. Yeah, and weโre three blocks from the ballpark. And I love these folks here and fade these into divine family. So Damon is gonna join us talking about the big move. They moved over here about three weeks ago, took 150 years to get here. Theyโre going to be opening a Gainesville, probably through the winter. I learned that today. So our friends and families, our friends at the Maryland lottery Lucas here, one more second. Weโre gonna get some football in before itโs all over with as well. I am Nestor. He is Luke. Weโre in Lexington market in the new phase. Please stay with us. Rabbits. Have fun down here talking baseball.