The unlimited free money for billionaire sports franchise owners isn’t coming so easy outside of Maryland

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While we watch Steve Bisciotti’s paid-for-by-the-citizens new shiny object get erected on the football stadium and await to hear the plan of David Rubenstein for Camden Yards, Leonard Raskin and Nestor discuss aging stadia, big money, threats of moving sports franchises and civic donations to billionaires for sports teams that aren’t happening in places like Kansas City, Phoenix, Oakland and Northern Virginia.

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SPEAKERS

Leonard Raskin, Nestor J. Aparicio

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home we are W n s t, Towson Baltimore, Baltimore positive celebrating 25 Magical years and our magic sprinkle dust. Big shout out to our friends at curio and foreign data on that as well the 25th anniversary documentary coming out later on in the month and really this week we’re getting the crabcake tour back out on the road. I spoke to some of Johnny Yos people this week as well as governor Westmore. I’m going to be talking about the bridge talking about the peninsula I have some great guest Key Brewing and stopping by Joe golden some folks to talk about the peninsula at cost this on Tuesday from 11 until two and then the Oreos play two o’clock and I’m going to have some crab Imperial and some Oysters Rockefeller and probably some cream of crab soup because it’s going to be that kind of a day for me. I’ll be giving away scratch offs in the Maryland lottery these 10 times the cash which I have remaining from couple of Super Bowl for last month. By Friday when we get the families I will have some PacMan. Waka waka waka we have some some scratch offs to give away. The new Lexington market that new fade lease. Just had a delicious crab cake there on opening day. Can’t wait to get back on Friday. We’ll be there from two until five We’ll be live. Anyway going live no more. I’m going live on Friday to one to five. So if you want to come down be nice if you stopped down. That’s Coco’s rule. Be nice. If you want to come down on Friday to until three Luke will be there for pictures and autographs. And let her Raskin joins us now. I’m wearing his shirt. It’s a tax season. He’s not a tax free cat guy, because he doesn’t want his clients to freak out. So when I say it’s tax week letter, some of the world that gets you know loins a little bit in a bunch I think

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Leonard Raskin  01:41

people are possessed by April 15. And it’s kind of like you’re driving down the road. You’re thinking you’re doing everything perfectly legal. And then suddenly, red and blue lights come up behind

Nestor J. Aparicio  01:54

you. And hold on I’ve given you the emotion Hold on. It might not be you don’t hold on to I have a taillight out. It’s not the you know, not that, you know, my little sticker out of date, because I got pulled up once for that. Nothing you know,

Leonard Raskin  02:08

it just sends the fear of God right through you that emotion that just oh my god, April 15 has the same effect. And you know what’s even crazier? Every day, we stroll down to the mailbox, we get the mail, nothing that matters bunch of junk a couple things that we’re going to look at maybe something cool. And then you flip through and there’s a letter return address Internal Revenue Service, and people go into that same ah, what is this? I’ve

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:39

never been sideways with anything governmental. But I it’s it’s the biggest fear we all have. Right? That’s right. I’ve never been arrested. I pursued illicitly you can, you can look that stuff up as well. But like I can I give you a funny story because I’m like, go and you know, famously that I’m really good at certain things. And the documentary will point that out. And I and I’m not great in other things, which is why I need people like you and Scott KEXP in my life, different people, lawyers that I’ve had my lash doctors, we’ve had no you know, people done important or hire professionals to do their job. And this is why I have you at Raskin global whatever. So I’ve never told the story in the air. So you’re making me tell the story. Because I’ve been pulled over a couple of times in my life. I famously have told you about drinking and driving and my Budweiser, Miller and Coors sponsorships that like drinking and driving is something I did when I was 19. One night after a Mike Tyson fight had a little bit of a blackout and never ever ever thought about doing it again to alcoholic parents. So you learn about that. Yeah, I’m sober when I’m getting pulled over. So like, I’m not afraid of that. I have two stories to tell you. I just thought of another story of getting pulled over that relates to Eddie Van Halen and Mike Messina. Okay, so I got pulled over coming home from the Baltimore Sun 1990 91 Okay, I am by the gets caramel factory, but I’m paying olive oil in Upper Highland town coming down Madison monument that way, John Howard, like where the gold club and chaps are because I lived on cane Street. Okay, I live where Patterson High School was right. So I was coming the back way down urban Avenue. So NorthPoint Boulevard, um It’s 4am Right? Or am I get pulled over in front of like the new motel which was totally like random? Yeah, it was uh, it was. Yeah, it was a bit of a brothel. And you can Google that as well. But I’m driving that way and I got pulled over literally right at the gas station next to what the new motel where the road V’s were We’re the gold club and sort of where Edison garden was the name of the neighborhood of Armstead gardens. So I get pulled over cop comes up, I handed my ID hands it back to me. And he’s like, your driver’s license is expired. This isn’t a time in your life 99 You I’m flying a lot or I’m pulling my ID to show to anybody other than the bouncer at the club because I think it was 21 but barely. And I looked at it and I’m like, Damn, if it isn’t, you know, I mean, like, so.

Leonard Raskin  05:33

Did he know that when he pulled you over for it? He pulled me over for a

Nestor J. Aparicio  05:36

taillight. Okay, I had a ponytail like because I you know, I had I was probably driving 277 caprice classic wagon is like, the family roadster. So that’s one story. And I’m like, so when you say red lights, and like, I know I was doing anything wrong, right? When he said to me, he’s like, look, I can impound the car. Just like, you live over here in case you drive your car home and I’m putting a notation on your 1990 or whatever. Right? That morning. I had to call my stepbrother. I had to drive to Bel Air. I had to take the entire driving test over again. Because I was so out of expiration that I had to take the whole test it was like the scene and taxi laugh at that and hear a cry about this when you’re ready for this. Okay, go ahead. One of my best friends in the whole world a man I love more than I love most people lives in Florida. He is by trade a psychologist psychiatrist. I am not as patient although I should be. And we we’ve known each other forever. He’s a Dolphins fan raising a family doing practice the whole thing and haven’t seen him or heard from them in a while. And he texts me literally in the middle of like work yesterday. Right? I’m watching the oral game. So I was going I get this weird text it’s a picture of me and Eddie Van Halen Hmm Well, I’m him. He’s a Van Halen not. And I apparently, Eddie Van Halen and I and I’m in the get nasty shirt are the cover of some Van Halen fan page right now. It’s the mean. Wow. You know, like, it’s a really cool picture, Eddie because he’s holding his guitar. And Sammy Mike Messina, isn’t it? But it’s closer. But just me and Eddie because I’m standing next to Eddie. And he said it to me. It’s like, Dude, I found this on the internet. It’s like crazy. And I’m like, so I’m like, it’s sort of meant to be I hear from him. That picture is featured in the 25th anniversary documentary, amongst some other like, crazy stuff I’ve done in my life. But that night, it triggered me. It triggered me on Sunday in the middle of the game. And I looked at it and I wrote him back like something sort of flippantly funny. I wrote in one sentence because we have that kind of relationship. I wrote him. That was a night lol. Right? So it’s like, how did me and Brad Pennington and Mike Messina wind up in a picture with Eddie Van Halen and Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony and as your says that your St. Bernard was at the multifamily?

Leonard Raskin  08:09

That’s the the great parodies barking at the chickens at the house behind us. He loves the chickens. Has he eaten one? No, either. He’s all fit. Oh, yeah. He’s their protector. And he’s probably not fast enough to catch them. Right? Oh, I don’t know. He’s pretty fast. He’s well, I’ll

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Nestor J. Aparicio  08:28

tell you who caught me that night. And the reason that picture moved me in a different direction because I’ve seen that picture shared that picture. Anybody that has been my Facebook friend is seeing the picture of the night backstage at Merriweather in 1993 Messina had just gotten hurt in the hassle Man fight. He was on the DL like so you know some weird things were going on at that time. So summer 93 And the right here right now tour had the torture for 30 years my wife had to strip it off my back as it fell apart. So and it didn’t fit me. So that night I pulled out with Mike and Mark Messina and whoever else John RAF Elite is with me my one of my was my roommate at the time. And we drove at a Merriweather Post and I was taking Messina home and he lived in Colombia. He lived off Dobbins circle he was still renting an apartment. He was not rich. He was barely famous. It was 1993 got pulled over rural. Oh no Wayne, right turn at a stop sign on a dirt road Columbia and I got jacked up in Howard County for a rolling right turn and a cop pulls me overseas misete in the back seat and says I hope your arm gets better as he gave me a ticket. So I ticket I got a ticket. I got a ticket for right stop sign dang it 9093

Leonard Raskin  09:50

We even with even with the man in the car,

Nestor J. Aparicio  09:54

both machine is in the backseat. I think moose said something like I signed an autograph get you off dude I

Leonard Raskin  10:01

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didn’t work clearly. When

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:03

I saw this picture of me and Eddie Van Halen There you go triggered a whole different thing.

Leonard Raskin  10:09

That’s it. Well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:13

you may laugh with me you start arrested and like bad.

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Leonard Raskin  10:18

Arrested. That’s like my greatest fear ever would be prison. I remember when I was oh, I don’t know how old were we? Seven 810 and went to school and they showed us that damn scared straight video. Remember that?

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:30

Oh, my God, Rahway at the roll.

Leonard Raskin  10:34

Or whatever. I was never going to do anything bad. Or you go, you see, there’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:38

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the picture that that’s now this is on some page called X Van Halen love Torah, Torah. So I think it may be a Japanese Van Halen page. I don’t know, right? I don’t I really don’t know. But the it’s an it’s a period piece. What can I say about it? Right? It’s a period.

Leonard Raskin  10:57

So you go, or you attack? You’re good.

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:01

But you’re better than my nerves.

Leonard Raskin  11:03

Yeah, I don’t. I don’t know about about tax season. I have. As a matter of fact, right here in my handy hands if you let’s see if we can get this out by get this W something to 1099 says that this is a 4868. That’s the that sounds like a 5150 is what it sounds like to make 4868 is the form you filed to get your extension with the federal taxes. Oh, you 812 There you go. So you find this, you’re gonna you’re opening the door for me here, you file this form. And it says to the federal government, I’m not ready to hand you my shit yet. Oh, fair enough. Yep.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  11:44

The world that does this every year.

Leonard Raskin  11:47

Normal. Real, really good day, just another day. But But remember, we talked about this before, April 15. And the 4868 doesn’t mean you get this not to not pay the tax. It just means you don’t have to give them the paperwork. Government doesn’t care about paperwork as long as they got their money. So you give them the paperwork later, but you give them the money now. And so what you do is you do the 4868, you figure out how much you might owe or what it is going to be. You put that on the number on the form, and you go to the post office,

Nestor J. Aparicio  12:19

and that gets you off the hook. You know, you

Leonard Raskin  12:22

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pay them now if you’re right, right, that’s right. That’s right. Just do the square up. If you owe them money, getting their money, send the money and you take it to the post office, and you send it certified. All right. I like it because they lose stuff. If you do it electronically, which you’re able to do, they don’t get it sometimes if you don’t send it certified and they say you didn’t send it you’re in trouble. Send it certified 14th 15th at the post office, you have the government telling the government it’s on time

Nestor J. Aparicio  12:48

and do this before I’m at fadeless at Friday, two o’clock. Don’t wait till Monday, right? Like it’s crazy.

Leonard Raskin  12:53

There’s no reason I mean, you know, you’re gonna do it. Just do it. It’s a piece of paper, you don’t even sign it. You fill it out. You put your information on it, you send it off and you’re not time

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:02

anywhere else don’t even play on like on Tuesday night you make a little time. We’re going to be Costas on Tuesday. We’re gonna be families Friday and this 25th anniversary is fun for me because people like Leonard have been listening, watching. I’ve met your whole family. A lot of people have asked me about it. And so I’ve been really doing that during oral baseball sort of gearing up for this NFL Draft. I just been wonderful watching the women’s basketball everybody’s been watching. I went out with a friend on Friday and watched the men’s basketball not your mama’s so like I’ve been asked her the other night watching the ladies play on Friday. I was in Highland town. I was in Coco’s the other night. I’ve been moving around town a little bit, not really on social media. But see if people really dig in sports and basketball base,

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Leonard Raskin  13:46

a friend of mine, Brenda mines out in Iowa and he’s not in Iowa. He’s an Iowa alum. He says nothing better than Caitlin chick ball. There you go. And we had what’s an angel Reese? Right Angel Reese, Baltimore. Baltimore girl got all the accolades last year after LSU won it all. And I think they named a basketball court downtown after her something or in her high school. I don’t know. She and her brother both went to Maryland. She transferred out to LSU and now she’s all famed up. She’s gonna go into the WNBA along with Caitlin. They’re gonna be shooting up eyelashes or I mean three points from from everywhere. And good for them. You know the ladies ladies need to make some money. The thing is, is really weird. And I don’t know that this is a fact. But I’m I’m pretty certain you could Google it as we say. The lady’s college basketball got massive viewership. Oh, yeah. I don’t think the WNBA million

Nestor J. Aparicio  14:48

watch the first I don’t have the numbers in yet. I’ll keep checking because they’ll be early on Monday morning. I think Saturday being the

Leonard Raskin  14:57

final game was the most watched Sunday. means gaming history, but but I don’t think anybody watches the WNBA for some reason, it’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:07

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listen and art modell would tell you that in 1961 when no one was watching the NFL yet everybody had watched Army Navy and Michigan and no, right right the college sport built it. Same thing with college basketball in the NBA. Nobody watched the NBA, the college game luau. sindoor and you go back to Bill Walton going into the NBA and the NBA came along. And then Larry Bird magic safety with college. Yeah, right. They transfer that to the NBA and the Jordan and LeBron and Kobe and like all of them we are so I look listen, I’ve been on the soccer thing for all my life, right? Like I’ve been a SOCCER GUY. A lot of people aren’t soccer people. Johnson my dear friend Dave Johnson in DC he’s a legend now after 30 years of calling that sport that game MLS Whether you’re into it or not into it, it’s arrived. I mean, on the women’s and men’s side right what right oh man comes on in the Harrisburg heat in the Baltimore blast. And so it’s, it’s a thing like MMA is forever and I have John Brown, wherever, right? Like all of these things take time. And they can either be buried and some would say indoor soccer is one of those things during our lifetime the blast in the 80s had a real chance to be sport number five or that next thing right and hockey in the NBA had chances to fail, flop, go on strike not have television contracts, all of those things that have happened. And you know, things like um, like American Ninja Warrior, and things that aren’t we don’t think of sports have come along. But women’s college basketball, I’ll just say this, my heart. I covered college basketball in the 1980s. It’s another part of my documentary that like I picked the all Metro team for basketball and softball for a number of years at the picnic, Sun 8990 91 I can name every one of those girls, I can name every one of their coaches, Bobby Nick book, the famous DJ Bobby Nick. I met him in 1988. He was the coach of the wildlife basketball girls coach, and he was running a triangle. Like he he was running deep Smith concepts with girls who could play and Greenberg was had girls at Mount Hebron down there that would have been in the WNBA had their bigger thing in it. So I would just say I was watching it back and I watched on Stanley play as a player. So I mean, I stand in great admiration. It’s beautiful to watch a game where they don’t dunk. Right? They swear it’s a really like a much more visually appealing game to me. And we’re keenly Clarkston with Angel Reese becoming the you know, the villain like we’ve had WrestleMania this week and whatever, and there’ll be next villains and but they’re girls playing basketball their dad right daughters playing basketball. Hey, beautiful thing. Women it really is women

Leonard Raskin  17:54

of the Ohio State University. Were in there for a while and the women of Ohio State hockey won the national championship frozen for one nothing over Wisconsin. And

Nestor J. Aparicio  18:08

fringe sports like here. Lacrosse year hockey is first places. Yeah,

Leonard Raskin  18:12

this year is the first the start of the I don’t know what they call it the W H L whatever. The Women’s Professional Hockey League is started this year. So who knows what that’s going to bring but that blue out of the Olympics, and now they’ve got lots more teams in college, to which now they have enough to put together I think a six or eight team Pro League and maybe 2530 years from now they’ll be the original six or something women’s

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Nestor J. Aparicio  18:42

standard HMA sent to begin with starting with Title Nine and the availability of it and a girl that your age or my age, or dawn Staleys age would have had a totally different thing. That’s what Angel rechart he has enough money in the bank to probably take care of herself the rest of her life. She’s like you right. That’s

Leonard Raskin  19:00

right. That’s good. You

Nestor J. Aparicio  19:01

Caitlin Clark should too, to some degree in Russia with a doobie and wind up in jail. The way Brittney Griner did ever coach poop on her last week literally right in Mulkey right. So they’re on talking about these people. And I say one word Mulkey that might well mean Gretzky. Everybody knows who she is now. And we’ve moved to a place where we talk about wrestling in the 40s Wrestlemania. I remember Cyndi Lauper and Lou al Banna when it was guys like you and me, just want to have Saturday afternoon wrestling, and now all of a sudden it’s a billion dollar. Everybody goes to Philadelphia Hall of Fame. I feel that way about women’s basketball and I definitely feel that way. Soccer now, right? The moment where, you know, the top comes off as 30 years. It’s amazing, like crazy how far women’s sports have come and why we should somehow be shocked that something like Caitlin Clark would come along, and Adrian Reese would come along and Kim Mulkey would come along, and there’d be good guys and bad guys. There’d be black and white. There’ll be inside and outside play. There’ll be college versus Pro. There’ll be women broadcasters sitting doing right. No, no, no, there was a bird. There was a whole second broadcast, there was a Manning cast, right. And I watched part of that, and it’s saucy and it’s spicy. And it’s not for me. It’s not meant meant for me. No, but it’s got an audience. Sports as an audience now, think when you think

Leonard Raskin  20:32

about it, think about it in the in the final for the women’s you had UConn, right? They Gino Ariana coach and UConn 11 National Championships. But if you go back to the last one, and the ones he won, he was blowing their blown people out by 40 points, 30 points. They were the team and everybody else combined was a team

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:56

like Harlem Globetrotters. Right like wooden’s teams were in the match right now. He’s

Leonard Raskin  21:01

got a struggle to get back to the Final Four and to win people are going what’s wrong with Gino? Why isn’t he won in whatever because the all the other teams have gotten better and better and better. And there’s no cross

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guy and I’m not a lacrosse guy. When we were of that age, it was either Syracuse or Hopkins and that was That’s right. That’s it right now. Well over all different worlds, right and

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Leonard Raskin  21:24

the women’s to the women’s lacrosse. Same same gig, man it is. So we see

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:30

sports and other wages, right? Yeah, North Carolina women’s soccer go Google that. That same thing. This beat everybody forever and ever and ever. And then people catch up. Hey, Kim Mulkey came from that Louisiana Tech program that kicked everybody’s ass right? They were those right? Euler blue jerseys back in the day. Listen, I watched women’s basketball. I’m not new to the party. story for you. Let her ask you to see your Rascon global doing your taxes think your taxes if you’re freaked out called Leonard this week, you’ll and freak you out and we’ll send you some gospel. You can also find them in Baltimore positive. Um, my wife and I were at the owners meetings at the St. Regis. This is the one where Bashaud he came up in the middle of the night and pulled me away from the hardball table when I was with Jim Harbaugh, Jack Arbol. John Arbol and came over and told me to leave them alone. Which I’ve told that story that’s 15 years ago now. So we left the airport or we left the event. And we flew out of I want to say it was like the the orange it was the Orange County Airport because we were down there Orange County Down. And by the way, if you’ve never been to that area, it is the San Juan Capistrano area of Southern California. It is one of the most Dana Point is one of the most beautiful places in the world in the world. And I had never known that and the owners meetings were there. It was a one off Leonard. They never went back. The St. Regis has become a development. It’s not even there anymore. They they they they can the built more for one time on the west coast in March of oh nine I believe it was. And my wife and I went to the airport we get on a plane. The plane was going to Oakland because we were going to San Francisco for something I don’t know did see a concert, something I don’t even know we will see OLIO and we’re on a plane to Oakland after the NFL owners meetings in Orange County. And we’re on a Southwest plain old rickety southwest. Yeah, sure we get on an Al Davis is on our plane. There you go. And Al is with Amy Trask, who I didn’t know then who I know now was with a woman. It was Amy Trask for sure. And a few other people who were in his arrangement. He was still a good mind. Al Davis. Yep. And he sat down on the plane in front of me for two hours from the minute we sat down, taxiing. bathroom break up in the air and our landing the entire time. He sat literally right and I can touch his head. Yeah. In front of me. The entire flight. It was this time of year. It was March 26 seventh, eighth ninth in that range. Right. Right. Newspapers are still cool was 2009 he had the USA Today. He spent the entire two hours bending the ear of Amy Trask and anyone in his earshot of March Madness. The Women’s bracket was absolutely obsessed with women’s college basketball. Crazy loved it. He talked about it. He knew the girls. He knew the players. He knew the coaches. He knew the matchups he was on believably into it. So I, you gave me an Elaine to tell you a story that I don’t know that I’ve ever told on the air. But I’ve told Amy Trask that and she she’s like, absolutely out of love. Yeah, it was asked her out or her out. But I mean, there were people into it. And now we’re always on the front end of everything. Everyone is like anybody else right.

Leonard Raskin  25:22

And his son’s haircut to go.

Nestor J. Aparicio  25:24

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I was in a restaurant. Oh, two weeks ago, Saturday night in Orlando. See, Luke got the pass. Yeah, go to the owners meeting reception on Monday night. Right. You got the past? I’ve been to that party. 20 times big shrimp. Roger Goodell used to be Norby Williamson no more. But executives are there treatments there Joe bucks. I mean, I literally saw all of them as they went in. And all of them as they came out, I saw virtually everybody who didn’t run for me. The shouting ran for me to caster ran for me. John Arbol never saw me Jim Harbaugh and I spent 20 minutes catching up. So I had a beautiful time. But at 730 Everybody’s going into the party and about 930 or 10 they start coming up with the drinks, they’re free. So any kind of stays right 11 till they shut the bar down. Ask Luke about how many martinis he had. Um, I think Johnnie Walker red, black blue eyed or something. So I had to go somewhere nice. So I went to the fufu shishi bar there to get my parking validated my $38 parking validated the Ritz Carlton in Orlando. And I well I walk in I’m at the bar and I made friends and people were wonderful and delicious meal at a salad this and that. Mark Davis walks in there you go completely alone, completely alone, completely alone. At a party where there’s a party out there and there’s 1000 people. It’s in the middle of the party. He walked in and got a table alone all by himself in a beautiful Italian restaurant. I’m sure he got the rigatoni was delicious. But I saw him do that two weeks ago. I told JT the brick, I just walked in here. Everybody, this isn’t over there. He’s he doesn’t care. It just tells you who? We’re all wired different. All

Leonard Raskin  27:12

right. He’s waiting for the Oakland, Sacramento, Vegas A’s to come to town.

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:19

Tell me about that. How do you feel about that as a fan?

Leonard Raskin  27:23

I think it’s horrible. And so what an Oakland what do they get 1000 People in the owner is the one that’s blown that is

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Nestor J. Aparicio  27:34

too big to fail in every way right? Like there’s no normal course of normal business that you go through with people that do normal business that can behave in this fashion that would allow their partners to be a blight. If this were a Marriott location, they would shut down. They would take the name off the top chamber ship right Chick fil A would just say you’re no longer a Marriott, you’re not a franchisor qualified. That’s right, Donald’s anymore. That’s right. But you got rats in the basement. You can’t be the new one more. Like literally and Major League Baseball has for ever from the time that Seelig Hey man, I had Jesse Ventura on my show at the turn of the century on nasty nation. Because I was on in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and they were trying to twins down and trying to like contract the twins, right? So they were actively they had the commissioner talking about shutting down franchises. And they’re doing PR on that. What because they’re trying to eliminate 50 Major League Baseball jobs, right? They got Montreal in hell at that point. They could never figure out Miami they had all Tampa was a mess already then, and it’s 25 years later, Angelo’s is effing up the Orioles forever, right at that point. And they still play the Expos in San Juan. They did all of this stuff. They screwed up everything with Angelo’s for two, they’re still untangling from that. And they have a new owner and 1,000,000,007 and this Oakland thing is just, they’re

Leonard Raskin  29:05

going to Vegas. They’re going to have a Sacramento for a couple years till they build the place in Vegas. Okay, oh, who’s paying for it? I don’t know. I guess the people in Vegas. Were you did you watch what happened to Kansas City last week? Did you see that? Yes, they down they down the tax increase. For the state to be

Nestor J. Aparicio  29:24

honest with me be honest, like be honest now and I’m gonna ask a politician. No, go ahead. If during 2021 plague middle of the play, yeah, this would have hit the ballot to give John Angelos. Georgia Angelo’s at that point, literally. Yep. And Steve Pasha at $600 million. Each year we would have voted on do we want to give them $600 million in real estate. If that would have. I’m gonna ask Bill Ferguson this I’m going to ask Nancy Brooke. Lieberman This is Wes Moore This is trying to get

Leonard Raskin  30:05

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it passed. They don’t nobody hears about it till it’s too late done sign shotty

Nestor J. Aparicio  30:09

still hasn’t answered a question and is literally saw me on a veranda knowing me 25 years and ran from me. Didn’t even say, Whoa, didn’t exchange pleasantries after taking my press credentials ran for me and did not make himself available. And they made Sashi brown available in this noisy restaurant where my employee attended. And he gave all of this Pollyanna nonsense, and he hasn’t met with the people here. By the way, he’s speaking at the CEO club later this month. So you want to you want to shake some things up over there. Maybe you were me or Steve Trevino, that I should ask him a few questions because he deserves to have they took $600 million. I guess that’s my point in all of this is Rubenstein has inherited this right. Yeah. And it knows like he might want to be a stand up guy about this in a different kind of way, I hope and continuing the challenge. And we’ll see how Ripken is involved in this current smokes involved in this Calvin Hill. You know, excuse me, y’all grant hills in this. Yeah. So I would Bloomberg all of this. They’re really important, really, really important civic questions that can be asked, it’s one of the reasons me and let it literally is, because I’m the one guy willing to ask them that was been in contact with Wes Morris people this week. And I was on the phone with Johnny O’s people five minutes before you came on, because we’re trying to get together. Yes, he’s running for office, but this bridge going down and what it’s going to do to the business and trade, world cost. It’s It’s an unbelievable, it’s an earthquake to my people. Everybody down there that I love who supported me, and I want to make sure we’re supporting them. So $600 million for both of these teams. I mean, Kansas City’s not doing that. Oakland is not doing that Sacramento is not doing that. Vegas might do that. Maybe I don’t know. But like this stuff isn’t happening in other places. And it’s all the more reason as I say to Luke and I would say to John Harbaugh is he’s out doing his Fellowship of Christian Athletes tour right now. To whom much is given much as expected, you know? Yep, that’s all I asked as a citizen.

Leonard Raskin  32:08

That’s all that’s it. Let’s hear. Let’s hear it. Right there.

Nestor J. Aparicio  32:12

Yeah, that’s it. So it’s getting a little baseball. What? How are you doing with the new it’s a beautiful vibe to get into What time’s the game. Oh, they don’t play today. Oh, they’re playing Hey, I’ll meet Nestor over Costas. They’re playing it too. I’ll take it. Take a half day. Like, I love that exciting ball. It’s it’s fresh for my soul again. And I really hope at some point, I meet Rubenstein and it’s nice and it’s good. And I get treated like a human being. I’m giving a lot of oxygen for that. Yeah, thanks. I don’t need to come back to the ballpark today or tomorrow. I need to come back permanently and for the right reasons, like literally and that’s the way I’m viewing it. But like I am, I’m looking at the schedule and saying the Luke on the air. Hey, man, we can go out to Oakland you want to go? You know, Hey, dude, passport, right? They play in Toronto, that would be fun. Let’s go to Buffalo and go over for a couple of days. New, whole new world. I’ve seen these people I find in Oregon. It makes me feel like not that I want to go to Pittsburgh on a cold day when it’s right. But like it did look like fun.

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Leonard Raskin  33:10

Look, didn’t look full. But a lot of fans available. A lot of those fans hanging out? Absolutely. Absolutely. And

Nestor J. Aparicio  33:18

the other ownership and this is where I get sideways. I was listening to the Melanie Newman through the game. Yeah, way back from a yoga class the other day. And last year, I heard her and Jeff Arnold purposely not denigrate a player who wasn’t running out a ball, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like I knew what player was. I’m not going to guide anybody right at the broadcasters. But I’m really not I mean, the lighting the ownership of how Kevin Brown was treated. Yeah. And what they’re allowed to say and not allowed to say. Ben McDonald is talking about books he’s reading to save his marriage. Yeah. And it’s become this fun little Kevin Brown is obviously the geekiest geekiest weirdly rock and roll like I don’t know him. I haven’t met him. It’d be fun to jive. It’d be fun to have a crab cake with him next offseason and get to really know him and have and get to ask my questions in my format that six governors have been on and on and on and on. Right. So like, I would love to have it be normal. Ben McDonald tweeted at me Sunday. Like, I tweet I wrote out loud. I love Ben McDonald. I don’t care who knows. Yeah, and I do. And I knew Ben is fun. He’s fun. And I love Ben and I love watching it. I like following it. I just want to go back to the ballpark and be treated better than I’ve ever been treated because they’re good people who want to treat me well and want me on the air talking about them being good people who want to treat me well and want to treat everybody well and they won’t ever ever be come back. And I would say this to you. Little homework for oral history. I had Charles Steinberg on this week. It is the best piece of radio I have done. Since couple of super books that did a lot of magical stuff that was really heavy lifting important stuff, life saving stuff that we do But from a baseball standpoint, I want you to invest a half an hour in listening to Charles Steinberg, who’s up running the Woodstock who just lost his best friend in the world and later the keynote this week. Yeah. And talking about Larry’s contributions. It I couldn’t get Larry on this week, we lost him. I got I had Larry spirit here for 40 minutes. I heard it in the car. Before I did this piece with you. I was just running on the radio. And I want the spirit of Charles Steinberg has talked about for our people. I want that sort of leadership back for our community. And for the 600 million. That’s what I want in return. You know what I want in return letter? I want something better than Sashi. Brown. That’s what I want a higher bar than that.

Leonard Raskin  35:45

Or at least step up and answer. Yeah, you available?

Nestor J. Aparicio  35:49

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Yeah. I mean, where are you with the Leone’s thing? You’ve been watching that circus down there have been a circus, right talking about it. And he

Leonard Raskin  35:57

bribed DC through Virginia. And he got what he wanted. He’s getting Virginia said no. Taxpayer said no. And Marielle Bowser, DC, crazy mayor gave him the store to stay in DC. So in other words, you have to not have to do that what you said no, Virginia said no, what you’re going to do.

Nestor J. Aparicio  36:21

Well, he’s not coming to Bill Ferguson and Adrian, right, like, well, that’s I’m

Leonard Raskin  36:25

saying, so where’s he going? Washington said yes. And they’re going to destroy the surrounding neighborhood to make him richer. And the rich get richer, you know.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  36:36

So here’s a great question

Leonard Raskin  36:38

that says goes,

Nestor J. Aparicio  36:40

you got a minute or you got an appointment, you know, good. Let’s take a deeper dive.

Leonard Raskin  36:44

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Let’s roll. Let’s roll.

Nestor J. Aparicio  36:45

Let’s let’s let’s talk about this. Yep. refer to me as governor Aparicio are just sure, for sure this insurance is in this conversation. Governor of the lordship of the Commonwealth of the greater people of Maryland. Yep. Right. Ah, Mr. Leo, just let’s let’s have a meeting. couvert Ted’s on my phone. I can text it. So as the king as the governor here or as the governor’s emissary, let’s say Governor Moore makes me the king of kick gives me Terry Hazel teens, but a real job. And I get to play John Mogae and recruit, are you ready for this? Yeah, yeah. Cuz Leonard, we’re trying to grow our community, we got a train station, you’re on the corridor, we’re gonna build a speed line that could get you anywhere in 10 minutes, right. Like, literally, we’re gonna have trains I’ve been on in Tokyo, like trains to go real fast. Right? fast trains, right? We’re gonna do that from New York to Richmond, because Ted said we’re gonna be a megalopolis. Right? And Ted owns a team. He’s a billionaire. He’s a genius. AOL. look him up. He’s really smart. I know. And I say that for real. I have been with Ted privately for hours. He’s really smart. He is I’ll say that King is the governor olders sports radio guy who doesn’t really respect him much, but thinks he’s smart. Yep. So I’m going to go down to have a meeting with the monumental folks who want to have a television megalopolis to write sure it’s big plays TV, right? Mr. Lyon says, I’ll tell you what we can do for you. I have this really struggling city up in Baltimore, we’re building this red line, and we’re building this maglev and I’ve got this place called Westport. It’s got a lot of African American Heritage and lineage, some good, some not so good. And it’s got water access. And we got a land developer down here has been trying for 20 years to get tips and get some special sauce. We have some federal special sauce from the bridge and this and that we’re trying to put Baltimore back together again. How would you feel about Baltimore wizards? How would you feel about Baltimore clippers and we’ll just retire the capitals name, and we’ll break rooms here. So here’s what we’ll do. I’ll give you how much you need 1,000,000,005 billion, I’ll give you 1,000,000,005. I just gave these these two football teams 1,000,000,002. We’ll write it over 50 years, you’ll sign a long term lease. We’re gonna bring the NBA back to Baltimore. We’re gonna bring the NHL back to Baltimore. We’re going to build a maglev that’s gonna get people from Reston up here in 18 minutes. For, you know, $8 in the future. Yeah. And we’re really going to show off that DC is kind of the center of the world but Baltimore is going to be the center piece. Baltimore is going to be with Philadelphia failed to be and what New York has faltered. Baltimore is going to be the center of everything because we’re going to have an NHL team and an NBA team and a maglev and we got all that we already have that right. But you know, we got crime. We got kids. We got schools. We got deteriorating infant we got we got a train track under the rug. But I’m just saying like, that’s the kind of talk you have to talk right

Leonard Raskin  39:57

for days these days. To show if

Nestor J. Aparicio  40:01

you can move the age, the theoretically to Vegas via Sacramento, why wouldn’t if he wants to come to Maryland and Wes Moore is going to meet with him down there. And Muriel Bowser is not going to get it done in DC, then the next step has to be. Yeah, I mean, I’ll bring you some money, we’ll put it on the ballot, Maryland. But those teams are going to sit in Baltimore, and we’re going to be a force Stuart sport town, and we’re going to build a maglev around and we’re going to build but but but but Bubba had jobs and we’re gonna have our genuine, we’re gonna have our Atlanta community that goes up around it, where we own things around it that bring people there. 360 It’s an entertainment center on the new waterfront in Westport. That’s a $4 trillion thing that includes bringing the NHL and the NBA to Baltimore.

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Leonard Raskin  40:52

I’m all in except I tried Virginia. They said no. And DC came in with a lot of money. And I signed the lease and I’m staying. Because Baltimore didn’t get to him fast enough.

Nestor J. Aparicio  41:08

Um, listen, I’m just dreaming here this morning. But creating what I used to say was good radio. Because if I open the phone lines right now for 1041 1570, we could talk about it all day.

Leonard Raskin  41:22

Would people would be all over it. And whether or not right what happened.

Nestor J. Aparicio  41:29

Going into to keep the two teams we got? We’d have a hard time doing that. We Oh, there’s

Leonard Raskin  41:32

no doubt if you if you’d have voted for the million two. I don’t know if what had happened just like Kansas City. And what did they get out for that? What did they get? If they lose the chiefs? What are they going to do then? They lose the chiefs. I saw a saw over the weekend. Texas said we got room for another team bring the chiefs. They’re now doing this thing. Bring the Chiefs back to Texas. Well, maybe Dallas can

Nestor J. Aparicio  41:58

take the caption and the wizards to Austin. You know what I mean? Like, like, I’m literally just saying, I saw Stan Crunky you didn’t run for me. He doesn’t know me. I saw him all winter. I saw Ziggy Wolf and Robert Kraft chatting in the foyer. Like I saw Stephen Jones come in with wine and poured it for everybody was so broke by the way. So I like I would just tell you

Leonard Raskin  42:23

it’s just a billionaire’s gloves soak in this consumer soak in the Fortune last

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Nestor J. Aparicio  42:29

his own people to go to LA to build a hub for the league. And to your point, they have raised the bar there to even the point where the Cincinnati Bengals compete. They don’t have any crazy broken spokes, like the Oakland Athletics or the Tampa Bay Rays are the Angelo’s Orioles that you know that kneecap the learner nationals of their money that begat how many of these teams tread water the Pittsburgh Pirates that just print money and put as Andy MacPhail once said out loud, why serve them steak when they’ll eat hamburger?

Leonard Raskin  43:07

Exactly that’s what

Nestor J. Aparicio  43:10

they need to make sure the Rubenstein is not doing that. I don’t think he’s going to do that held accountable to do that. That’s all

Leonard Raskin  43:15

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Yes, yes, absolutely. And and he says he’s going to do better and we’re gonna find out because there’s a bunch of kids in the minor leagues dying to get up here and you’re gonna gonna bring them up or sell them off one or the other.

Nestor J. Aparicio  43:27

Well, that’s gonna save them money. I mean, Luke and I swore stay talking about hey, you hazing Molins go out when they’re making 12 million a year let them go we’re replacing the cows and replace them with contract and the next five years we got cheap help. Hey, that’s absolute ravens together and that’s what’s gonna break them up with Lamar make this money look. Lamar is not gonna have you got a hotel, you know?

Leonard Raskin  43:49

Davian clowny How about that deal, huh? Two and a half million dollars for a year to come to the Ravens. He resurrected his his standing, studded out for the season. And then went to Carolina and got two years $25 million Good for him. Good for

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:10

him. Just got four and a half million more to come in because he proved he can go to

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Leonard Raskin  44:14

the go to the Colts now.

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:16

Yeah, man he’s doing he’s gonna at some point,

Leonard Raskin  44:20

right. He’s gonna be the witches name for the Steelers. The beard helped me Oh, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Patrick. Yes, at the bar. Joe. It’s two weeks Joe is gonna fight Fitzpatrick for the most uniforms.

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:36

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I saw Ryan Fitzpatrick eight feet away from where Chad Steele stared at me and dared me to come over and talk to Steve Ashati at midnight. Right so this is the world I’m living in while these guys get $600 million dollars. And we talked about Kansas City. Doing it for Oakland hasn’t done it where Vegas might not do it where St. Louis didn’t do Oh

Leonard Raskin  44:55

Vegas has gone on and on and on Vegas is gonna do it. They want it and they told you You and they got hockey, and they got football and they’re gonna get baseball. And the NBA is not too far behind. Let’s not kid ourselves.

Nestor J. Aparicio  45:10

And Ted Leone just saw all of this and said I want mine and

Leonard Raskin  45:14

DC said Certainly sir. No not certainly sir. They said go shop. That’s right and what do you shop sell go?

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Nestor J. Aparicio  45:21

Can you like put your feet there and eat cherry pie and tell everybody in Virginia

Leonard Raskin  45:27

said no. They still said yes. They still said yes. Even though they they clawed their way to Yes, but they did it.

Nestor J. Aparicio  45:36

All right. Well, you’re done with me later Raskin. You’ve got mail. Bring sensibility to all of this and Raskin global. You can find him there rest global.com as well as a Baltimore positive ad on the front of our website. Hope to get a crabcake with you soon we’re getting the state back out on the road. You know, Springsteen can get back out on the road. I can go have some crab cakes.

Leonard Raskin  45:56

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There you go. Amen.

Nestor J. Aparicio  45:57

I am Esther, we are WNS TA and 1570, Towson Baltimore. Let a man dream a little bit about the Baltimore clippers in the National Hockey League. Yeah.

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