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Who is going to save baseball in Oakland  Dan Moore

Author Jason Turbow gives Nestor an Oakland Athletics history lesson and discusses everything that went wrong over 50 years dating back to Charlie Finley and a book he wrote on the 1970s World Series champions draped in thrift and constant acrimony.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

oakland, finley, baseball, kenny loggins, baltimore, bay area, team, wrote, talk, book, giants, life, charlie, fans, giants fan, man, berkeley, kenny, fought, untenable

SPEAKERS

Nestor J. Aparicio, Jason Turbow

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home we are wn St. am 1570, Towson, Baltimore. And Baltimore positive we are we’re having some fun here this week the Orioles out on the West Coast. We got draft week and of course our 25th anniversary. The big celebration of the release of the documentary will happen at 5:08pm on Thursday, the 25th in anticipation of the NFL draft and maybe the Ravens even dealing out of their picking first on on Friday, but Luke and I will be together on Friday at fadeless I’ll be giving away the Pac Man scratch offs courtesy the Maryland lottery in conjunction with our friends at Liberty pure solutions keeping her water clean, as well as Jiffy Lube multi care on Wednesday, I will be at Green Mountain bowl next to Green Mountain station talking not about bowling but I’m going to be talking about bowling anyway. I like bowling, especially duck any joint with duck pins I’m down with people from out of town are like what the hell it duck pins trust me on this. So I’ll be there Wednesday two to four and then at four we’re going to watch the Orioles and the angels. I will also have the Pac Man scratch offs to give away in beautiful Hampstead Carroll County, Maryland. This guy is not Carroll County, Maryland. I think he’s out in the west coast. I think he’s in the bay area but I’m not even sure I know of him through a bookie wrote several years ago, where the Oakland A’s were at the center of it dynastic bombastic, fantastic Reggie Raleigh catfish and Charlie Finley swing and A’s and I’ve already had Susan Ford off this week and admitted that that was the team I hated the most because they beat the Orioles and 73 and 74 made me cry when I was five when I was six. And then the pirates happen and we won and then it hasn’t been good since 83. Really, but this might be our time we’re talking a lot more baseball around your Jason turbo is not just the guy that wrote about the A’s but has written about baseball codes unwritten rules which when you write about the unwritten rules, I mean, no wonder he doesn’t have a press credential. They bled blue the 81 Dodgers which was a split season, weird teen we can talk about he wrote a book called steal. All right. Kenny Loggins I love Kenny logins for a lot of reasons and I’ll get to that most recently Twin Cities, which was more of a serious thing life as a black cop and a championship coach with Charles Adams we welcome our defending champion Jason turbo back onto the program. Dude, I just called you because the A’s are leaving Oakland and I figured you were a guy that if I looked at you and your thing you didn’t want to put your camera on that you’d have any stuff on the wall out there I think of you was associated with the A’s Am I wrong?

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Jason Turbow  02:29

Well I’m in the Bay Area and I definitely took a deep dive on the A’s when I was researching that the book dynastic bombastic, fantastic I you know, I got to travel the country and hang out with with almost all of them, and in the process acquired a lot of kind of memorabilia along the way I find it it helps me in my process to be surrounded by the stuff I’m writing about and

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:52

Carolina Supercat fish or something like that, or my role. Catfish

Jason Turbow  02:54

was long dead by the time I wrote this book.

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:58

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I think somebody sat with catfish for a book and I do so much. I’m like, I can’t remember it all. But you know, catfish. You

Jason Turbow  03:06

have a lot in your head. And I’ll tell you, you did that intro read so smoothly. That I’m on the West Coast, right? I’m in Berkeley, California. I want to come out there to get that Pac Man does the scratch off bowling. I mean I’ve even learned

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:19

how to do this I’ve gotten creative with with my logo to be able to Pac Man and so the A’s What is your thing with the A’s because you wrote this cool book I mean, I you know, I had John we had a laugh about I think we’re just doing radio. That was couple years ago. Pretty pre Blakey at that time. I’m gonna be going to Oakland forever. I see baseball games that one of my favorite baseball games I ever saw was there. I was there for the crotch shot game and to hodda and when they carry Johnny Damon off on a cart, I was at that game playoff game one of the best baseball games I ever saw in a lifetime St. Baseball. I was there. When the AFC Championship Game was presented or trophy was presented art modell in the black hole with Trent Dilfer and goose and all those guys. So, I mean, I’ve had moments there. And I guess I knew it was untenable. It’s been untenable forever, but I just sort of figured when i Whenever I saw the little lake there, I’m like, they’re gonna, like figure this out to keep the baseball team because they’ve already lost the football team. They’ve lost the basketball team. Where else is the baseball team gonna go?

Jason Turbow  04:23

Well, apparently Las Vegas. It’s untenable because the team has made it untenable. Let’s just be clear about that. There’s I mean, there’s a a small but very vibrant fan base in Oakland. That is looking for a better college better. Yeah, better Coliseum experience than the one they currently have, like a ballpark is attainable. Current leadership has been next to impossible to work with as far as the city of Oakland ghosts, who, more or less bent over backwards to accommodate them. And finally, John Fisher, who is no hyperbole, the most hated man in Northern California right now is just ready to take off.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  05:01

Well, that was the whole purpose, right? Like I got into this with Susan Ford off earlier. She’s like, you don’t know bad ownership to you know, this guy. I’m like I had Angelo’s here 30 years. And it wasn’t an Angela just wanted to move the team. He just wanted to build it. He just wanted to make as much money as possible off of it the last 20 years and Masson that nobody was happy. That’s a different kind of unhappy then. Absolutely trying to move the team and making no bones about it right?

Jason Turbow  05:28

Sure one, Fisher has the Angelus bases covered also, I mean, he, he fielded the smallest payroll in baseball for many, many years, and jettison guys as soon as they had the chance of reaching a pay day. So the product continually suffered. And so the fans began to stay away. And the Colosseum is decrepit, and there’s there’s very little upgrade to it. And yeah, and so his response is to a, built the city of Oakland, give me everything I want, and including a billion dollars worth of infrastructure improvements. And when I don’t get it, I’m just gonna leave. From what I understand. You know, they were well underway on a property in Jack London Square kind of along along San Francisco Bay along the harbor. And the contractors involved just had such a difficult time with A’s ownership, that many of them hesitated, and they hesitated enough to make the deal untenable. It’s I mean, it’s all just a really sad story. Well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  06:27

to say that you’re going to be a partner or a good partner or a Lord over all of it. I mean, we dealt with that with John Angelos here last year, not signing a lease that gave him $600 million worth of money, and then really using it as a leverage point to sell the team for more money. Right. So he just literally that’s, that was the shell game played here on the app on the exit, after leaving 30 years of literal feces, you know, along Camden Yards, left the team in good shape out. Yeah, I keep saying that. And we’ll get to on the field here and all the dreams of how it gets rebuilt. But I, you know, I saw enough life in Oakland to think like, and it’s such a big area of people that the Giants have never sort of worn them around. From the beginning, Angelo’s even said to me, the one time I sat with him, and we have a team in DC, it’ll be the same situation they have in the Bay Area where they won’t be and this is what candlestick was still standing, by the way, like literally, that how much has changed in 30 years, but it never changed for the A’s right? It just never like the same stadium Reggie Jackson was in minus mount Davis is still like, there it never, it never got better. I’m in the mind of this guy, this Sacramento, Las Vegas thing. I’m trying to figure the exit strategy of all of this and how it really benefits a guy that probably could have stayed there in a bigger market and, and fought it out with an existing fan base, and not going to a place that has a football team and a hockey team that’s fighting for money.

Jason Turbow  07:58

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For sure. I mean, that’s the head scratcher for everybody around here. What what is the benefit to moving to Las Vegas, which appears not to want the azan anymore, then Fisher wants to stay in Oakland, you know, the teachers union is fighting them hand and foot which is, you know, in my mind great. And not just from an AI standpoint, but from like, Why does any town let a professional sports team built them out of millions of dollars? None of the local you know, everyone I know who has gone to Vegas has talked to locals. Like what do you think about the eighth moving here? Nobody cares.

Nestor J. Aparicio  08:32

I ran into Joe Hortons at the owners meetings a couple of weeks ago. I’m like the Chargers either you have room for fans, right? Like nobody in LA wanted to chargers, like they just showed up and now they’re trying to you know, they’re on their way to Frankfurt or wherever they’ll wind up putting them because I don’t think I can ever I mean, you look at these things, it’s it’s dumb. What are you doing? And it’s about well, we could read the automatic revenue. I mean, that’s that’s the game I guess to some degree, but I don’t I this age thing. Can you explain it in any way? Is there anything rational about it?

Jason Turbow  09:04

No, no, there’s nothing rational and the game in baseball today is a real estate game. You acquire real estate, you have a ballpark as your central tenant, you you own all the properties around it, and you become a real estate magnate. And it doesn’t matter if you sell tickets or not, because you’re making money on all this property. The A’s aren’t even getting that in Las Vegas. I guess it doesn’t make any sense why they’re moving. Just

Nestor J. Aparicio  09:27

the turbos here, he writes books on things. What moves you to write a book on the A’s like, give me the genesis of all that living in the Bay Area? And I guess on the back end, I mean, gosh, the most famous baseball book of this century he’s written about the A’s right? In Moneyball, right? Like so. I mean, he got movies, it began a movement, it began everything about spin rate and launch angle that we see here and, and leaning into walks and all of that stuff. But that’s a generation ago now as well. Oh my gosh, that’s our talking about Charlie Finley and the age that you wrote about back in the day. That was my first on Trey to loving baseball and really, Susan fallen off if you brought up like the orange glowing baseball and a segment a little while ago. So the ghost of Charlie Finley chases us all including when I saw via blue on the front of your your website a minute ago. Here’s a no

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Jason Turbow  10:15

here’s an orange baseball for you. Hey,

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:18

look at you see Charlie Finley model? Absolutely. I want you on the show turbo. Come on, man. You’re a real expert.

Jason Turbow  10:26

I do what I can. Yeah, this is a this is a great not only a great team, but a great story. Let’s be honest. This is one of if not the most lively team in big league history. And you say they made you cry. As a kid, they made each other crop. There were fistfights in this clubhouse regularly and repeatedly. And, and having talked to all the players on this team, it became clear that that was the secret sauce. That’s what you have them. In addition to being very talented, they kept each other so on the edge at all times, and so accountable. That that it drove them in ways that other championship caliber teams couldn’t match. And the only thing that kept it from flying out of control was the fact that as much as they hated each other, they hated the owner even more. They had that in common. Everybody loved Charlie Finley, and that helped coheres them.

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:20

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Well Charlie fought would like Angelo’s like Al Davis, he literally was the guy who fought with everyone, right? Literally. He

Jason Turbow  11:30

was he was violent. He fought with everybody in his organization. He fought with everybody within Major League Baseball. I mean, he was a one man operation when the A’s won the 1974 World Series, their third straight championship. There was a seven man front office, which included a ticket Manager, which included a comptroller currently filling was a one man operation almost literally because he couldn’t take input from anybody else. He had to call all the shots. And that was ultimately the downfall of the A’s because if there was a logjam with Finley, you know, he had a heart attack that year, and so nothing moves right and until he got better and good, get it moving along. There was nobody to step in.

Nestor J. Aparicio  12:08

Man you are the historian on the first villain, the first James Bond villain of my sports childhood, Charles Oh, Finley, my dad at Charlie Finley, man. talk bad about him. You know, I mean, around a kitchen table. That’s the way I grew up. 7475 76 It’ll all be documented in our 25th anniversary documentary that comes out on Thursday night. I got to looking at all of you know, old memories I even mentioned when Reggie Jackson cursed at me in Memorial Stadium when I was a cub reporter but he was an angel than he wasn’t even in Oakland a but the bash brothers and and and and steroids and the beginning of that Billy Martin wearing out pitchers during that era. I mean, the Oakland A’s have this really wildly rich history of winning losing, always being a little bit of the stepchild in that community there with the Giants having maze in the coffee and but they didn’t win. Those giants teams didn’t win the A’s won.

Jason Turbow  13:06

Yeah, it’s true. I mean, the Giants had some of the all time best teams in the 60s. But the Dodgers were always better. And yeah, the A’s are the stepchild in the bay area because the Giants were here first. That’s first and foremost. But then Charlie Finley came along, and when he should have been trying hardest to woo, the local press, especially the San Francisco Chronicle. He pulled funding, like he stopped paying for the reporters to go on the road, even while the Chronicle even while the Giants weren’t slashing expense accounts on the chronic reporters. So it’s no wonder that he got terrible press because he treated the press terribly. Even when it became the standard for for teams not to pay the freight. He wouldn’t even make the hotel reservations. And then he started promised if there was one time, he promised fresh lobsters 50 Fresh lobsters in the pressed dining room to the first 50 guys who got them. And the reporters were like, alright, we’re on it. But you know, they’re on the field interviewing players. So they can’t be there first, but a couple of them even left early, never any lobsters available. They finally figured out Oh Finley was feeding his friends and family before they even unlock the doors. And the lobsters were gone before any of the press ever had a chance. And my takeaway from that is not that okay, who cares? You didn’t eat lobster to the press.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  14:23

I don’t know that I’ve eaten meals in that room with like, under i i You know, I’ve eaten a lot of meals. I wouldn’t trust the law officer down there. Me. Well,

Jason Turbow  14:31

that’s a good point. The real problem was that he made these promises to the to the reporters he set some expectations. He never had any any notion of fulfilling them. Right. It is

Nestor J. Aparicio  14:43

50 years later in so changed, and that is you know, why do we love sports so much, Jason turbo. Let’s talk about Kenny Loggins. He makes me happier than that, you know? Yeah,

Jason Turbow  14:55

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well, I mean, sports is maddening. We get we get wrapped up In the personas of our teams, it’s why you’re so happy to you know, to cheer on Gunnar Henderson right now, you know, the regimen and Westberg you got a great fun team to cheer on, and it makes you

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:11

I’ve waited my whole life, you know?

Jason Turbow  15:15

I’m assuming and make you happier better make you happy? Because Are you

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:18

an ace fan at heart?

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Jason Turbow  15:19

I’m a lifelong Giants fan I grew up on

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:23

both behind you, but your giant sky, okay. I like

Jason Turbow  15:27

the A’s and I love the A’s history. I’m deep into it. Certainly nothing but love for the A’s. But when I’m rooting for a team, it’s the Giants.

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:33

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But you’re not a guy like rooting for them to leave at all, which like in Baltimore in DC it is it you know, we wouldn’t want anything good to happen. Anybody in Philadelphia DC certainly not that the former Redskins team that you know, kept the Colts you know, or colts fans at bay here for all the years of my childhood. Like there’s a real anti thing and the 40 Niners in the Raiders sort of always hated each other. Right like that. That was that’s more of a famous sort of one or the other kind of thing in your area. Yeah,

Jason Turbow  16:06

I gotta say it’s more like a big brother, little brother thing. You know, as a Giants fan. All Giants fans hate the Dodgers. But you know, my whole family’s from LA and all those years, the Dodgers are winning and the Giants weren’t the LA people didn’t even really notice. I feel like it’s the same way with the the giants in the A’s. A lot of A’s fans really are antagonistic about the Giants. And it’s not it’s not the inverse as well, like the Giants fans, mostly, for the most part, like the A’s. And because they’re likable, I mean, until recently.

Nestor J. Aparicio  16:34

Well, you’re writing some other books here. You wrote some serious stuff. Let’s talk about that. Because you don’t want to look you up and you know, I love authors. I’m one of them myself crazy, deranged. We’re all a little Jack Torrance in us, you know, all work and no play at the typewriter going on. near you. Yeah, but but when you sign up to do a book and you take it on, there has to be it’s a passion project even for getting paid to do it. And taking a deep dive because you really want to do it. Well. You want to make it readable. You took on a different kind of project during the plague, right?

Jason Turbow  17:06

Yeah, my most recent book is with a Minneapolis high school football coach in the in the poorest school in the entire state, North Community High School in inner city, Minneapolis. It was his alma mater. He took over, he took over a team that had been winless for years and brought them to a state championship in a very short amount of time. While concurrently bleep being a black police officer in the Minneapolis PD during the time of George Floyd, the guy the guy came up with Derek Chauvin. He had a lot of thoughts and the idea of earning your place in the community, the community where you’re from, and having people turn their back on you because of the uniform you wear, based on nothing you’ve done personally, was wrenching for him and it makes for a really compelling story.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  17:55

Well, we’re Baltimore and Freddie Gray, you know, begat that and the wire and all of that so it’s an American story, right? It’s an America it’s an urban American story in a lot of ways with race and football and crime and perception and racism and trying to figure out how we move forward so I look forward to that and anything or Kenny logic Do you can’t tell me you’re already Kenny Loggins book I’m a lot of people don’t know that. You don’t know this because you don’t, you know, we never even met but I’ve been doing this a long time. I was a music critic in the late 80s. Sort of the almost famous Cameron Crowe if you go down that line, I really did live that life on a bus and know a lot of rock stars and see a lot of things that I didn’t didn’t write about and partook in some things. And some of the things I did not partake in, during that period of time, but I was young and, and thumb. And all of that is there. And I still I say this every day because I’m known for sports. My last name is Aparicio. It’s all I’ve done. I’m at a sports radio station sports sports. Anybody who knows me knows how much I love music. I mean, ran off to see Springsteen the other night, all the narrator’s of my of my 25th anniversary documentary are all their local musicians Jean Jacques from the gogos my bro har from 100.7 to I grew up with John Allen, one of my best friends for seven words. So like music to me, I’m 55 I’ve loved sports forever. I’ve been in sports forever. But music is the escape for me. It’s the thing that other than a couple of bad interviews with some musicians that may have been jerks along the line. I have so many more stories of what beautiful guys the guys in ZZ Top were and sitting backstage when I was a kid with different people and talking to them. But I love music. So if I were to write about things, or to be involved in something that might be fun for me writing books about musicians, am I wrong? Was it fun was Kenny Loggins awesome? Course.

Jason Turbow  19:44

It was fun. Of course. Kenny is awesome. Yeah, you know, like, like you. I’m 50 I’m 54. So like you I grew up as a teenager in the 80s with with danger zone and Footloose which, you know, was not really my jam as a young teenager. Would you

Nestor J. Aparicio  19:58

listen to what What was what was your music in? 8080 8182?

Jason Turbow  20:03

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Yeah, I’m not proud of it. Don’t get me wrong. I was listening to crappy Hair Metal. But you

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:09

want me to have my hair down? I invited the Snyder on the show this morning and was turned down because then threes next weekend. So like, trust me.

Jason Turbow  20:20

Why is this not gonna hi hat you?

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:22

Big League? Me? I don’t know. I think you’ll come on i think i think i think it was a form letter I think I think he’s gonna come on I do. I really hope you get it. I’m holding it.

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Jason Turbow  20:31

Point being I got to talk to Kenny for many, many, many hours and realized not only how deep his career was beforehand, and I knew the broad strokes of Loggins and Messina, but but really, the unbelievable attention he gave to Song crafting. Especially early in his solo career before he became the the chart topping machine, when he really could like, try and play with the nuances as opposed to crafting his singles. Like he really put a lot into his music. And I appreciate that

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:03

conviction of the heart may be one of the greatest songs ever written. I want to say that out loud on the show, because I don’t get to talk about Kenny Loggins much. Even though my band did do Footloose back in the day because we had an 80s cover band. You know, I collect a late 70s Pacific a belt buckles. It’s like sort of my weird passion to have kiss belt buckles and I just picked up a David Bowie that had been eluding me for a long time. Still on the market for the rainbow and the Blues Brothers and the UFO but I’ll get those Maury Brown is going to be on later, when he when I find that UFO belt buckle he’s going to want it for me. So I’m gonna talk some baseball with you know, everybody that’s covering it, because it’s a nice thing. They’re coming to town this weekend, Jason and I’m trying to put this into perspective for myself having spent a lot of time out there and gone the games as to what the hell it is. And I guess more than anything with our baseball situation here, just to say Major League Baseball should be handling all of their business better than they have over the last 50 years in regard to and I’ve said this out loud. If the A’s were owned by Marriott they would pull the Marriott sign off the front of the door and say, You’re not of the standard to be American that goes for the Chicago White Sox as well this year to say you can’t wear the shield. You can’t have the Major League Baseball logo on there if you’re not going to feel the major league baseball team. Yeah,

Jason Turbow  22:24

I’m with you. I will say for those going to games this weekend in Baltimore. The A’s after a very rough start have been surprisingly fun. They’re actually a game and a half up on the Astros in the aos.

Nestor J. Aparicio  22:35

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Well, I saw the Astros act the other day in DC. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So wait,

Jason Turbow  22:39

you know, which is saying something. But yeah, they’re not a good team. But they can be very fun. They have some very fun young players that are worth going out to watch. What’s your next book, man? My next book is even further from baseball. It’s on medical aid and dying, especially in California, which is which is an interesting movement based on a book I was writing with my father who was an oncologist before he passed away actually using medical aid and dying at the end of a battle with leukemia. So it’s up to

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:07

you, my friend. My wife was a two time leukemia survivor. She’s had two bone marrow transplants, Amanda Germany, it’s all in the documentary. It’ll be in there. But hey, man, hats off to you right. I see Kenny Loggins with the hat. I now want to like dive into the Kenny Loggins thing because like, that is something that would be a breezy read on a beach in Jamaica or Tampa or something like that. You know? Exactly right. I would be down when I listen when it comes to pleasure reading. I have two books in front of Kenny Loggins, you ready? Getting ready. I saw Getty do the thing three times because I’m a Getty guy. I was there in Toronto when Alex came on and did all of that. So I’m, I’m down with that. And then I had Rick Emmett on the show from triumph. I had him on maybe two months ago, and he was just such a beautiful guy and a big baseball fan. His brother’s dying request was to have his ashes spread at shortstop on 33rd Street in Baltimore, because he loved the cow that much. And he couldn’t pull that off. But I said, I know people I know the guy know John, hurry over here at the Y, which is where the land is now. So like, you learn things that you know, it’s all true. Rappers want to be athletes and athletes want to be rappers right now.

Jason Turbow  24:23

If you can find the musicians who love baseball, then you’ve got you got a lot of bases covered.

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Nestor J. Aparicio  24:27

Oh man, Jack, Jack McDowell and I would get after it all the time about rock and roll and Bernie Williams playing the guitar and see Yeah, you know, music keeps me one year I’m going to come back to that thing they do in Arizona. It’s spring training where they they put the whole baseball rock and roll thing together with games and all those guys. That would Pearl Jam. Yeah, that’ll do it for me. Hey, real

Jason Turbow  24:51

quick. You might enjoy this on Saturday night I was a punk rock show in Oakland. One of the bands is a band from Tijuana Mexico called DFM K They’re they’re great. They’re Mexican punk rock one of their T shirts, green and gold with their name on the front on the back is the number 24 the nameplate it says baseball punks, uns, and at the bottom it says f John Fisher sell the team except the full word not f. And I’m like I got to talk to these guys. Huge baseball fans. Huge Padres fans went up talking for like a half hour had drinks together. It’s fantastic. There’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  25:25

brings people together. brings people together. It brought us together for crying out loud. Hey, man, crab cake on me when you get in here and you are still in the Bay Area. Where is which side are you on out there?

Jason Turbow  25:40

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I’m I’m live in the East Bay in Berkeley.

Nestor J. Aparicio  25:42

He live in Berkeley. I so I’ve never been to Berkeley. I invited silver on this week. He’s gonna come in. He’s something it’s draft week, man. I can’t come on this week. We’ll come on later. Alright, so Schneider? Yeah, I’ll get t shirt we don’t I don’t need so they’ll tell silver that I love silver. But I had I for the first time in my life, the week of the championship games when the 49 or so is that one of my best friends and former bosses runs the game the radio station out it’s just go and I have to your friends. Julio Bermejo, one of my dearest friends in the world at Tommy’s Mexican restaurant and Giri and Richmond District. So I came out, I went to Tahoe and I had never been to Sacramento I had never driven in that way. I mean, I’ve been to the bay or I’ve probably spent 60 nights of my life in the Bay Area, but I’ve never driven in from that Porter part of the world. And I came through Berkeley driving and I almost like just wanted to get off and walk right. I still have never been to Berkeley. So it’s like one of those places in my life and I know I’m gonna have a great time there because everybody there is cool, right?

Jason Turbow  26:41

Well, everybody here has their issues just like everybody else. You know, we’ve got a speaking as a card carrying liberal we’ve got crazy liberal theory that also make life crazy. But when you come to Berkeley, happy to happy to give you a tour around.

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:57

I never say no to the Bay Area. I left my heart you know in San Francisco so well. And apparently the Oakland A’s are gonna maybe leave their jerseys are their sweaters that goes to Dave kingman’s rat. I’m not sure but either way the Oakland A’s will be here this weekend. We’re gonna be down at families with our friends of the Maryland lottery giving away the Pac Man scratch off, I gotta get some shrimp salad. I gotta get some crab cakes. I gotta get some mac and cheese. Luke Jones is going to join us for two or three. I’m gonna be like hanging out from three until five. We’re doing live radio, I don’t know why. It just brings on stress that I don’t need at this point in my life. And Luke’s gonna be covering the draft. If you’re on the text service, you’ll get all of that first. I’m going to be a green male bowl from two of the four on Wednesday during the show talking about horse racing a lot about horse racing in the new Pimlico and all sorts of things that I’m learning about the horse racing thing, and then we’re gonna settle in and watch the angels in Mike Trout and watch the Orioles mow down the angels and mow down the athletics and get ready for the big bad New York Yankees on Monday down at Camden Yards our friends at Liberty pure solutions making our water clean. Getting us out on the road in the Maryland crab cake tour in conjunction with our friends at Jiffy Lube multi care as well. 25th anniversary documentary comes out on Thursday. I make no excuses for how many of you and celebrities and fun and weird stuff and funny stuff and me running through the streets in my underwear and hanging out with rockstars and I don’t know there’s all sorts of I’m doing final edits and I realized like Stacy Keibler was my intern and I haven’t even pointed that out. So there’s things I got to get back in. When the New Kids on the Block fans all picketed the newspaper. I got to get all this stuff in there. So the countdown begins. Follow along at a Baltimore positive.com Stay with us.

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