When the music of Love Riot returns to fill your soul

The word is out that the reunion is on for the local 1990s band, Love Riot, and Lisa Mathews and “Young” Ron Campbell join Nestor at Koco’s Pub on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour to tell him how and why the band has reunited this month to make beautiful music again at the Creative Arts Alliance in Highlandtown on November 21st.

Lisa Mathews and Young Ron discussed the reformation of Love Riot, a band originally formed in the 90s after Beyond Words. Love Riot, known for their new wave sound, transitioned to a grungier style with a violin replacing drums. They gained recognition through a Yamaha Music Quest competition, performing in Japan and winning the national semi-finals. The band’s music was featured on “Homicide: Life on the Street.” Love Riot is set to perform at the Creative Alliance on November 21 and the Encore Collective on February 13. They are also working on a new album titled “Better Now,” with plans to release it on vinyl.

• [ ] Perform at the Creative Alliance in Baltimore on November 21st
• [ ] Launch a Kickstarter campaign to finish mixing, mastering, and manufacturing a new Love Riot album called “Better Now”
• [ ] Potentially release vinyl versions of past Love Riot albums “Having Can Wait” and “Maybe She Will”
• [ ] Book additional shows, including at the Encore Collective on February 13th

Love Riot Band Reunion and History

• Speaker 1 introduces the show, mentioning the location at Coco’s Pub in Lauraville, Maryland, and the absence of co-host Racig.
• Speaker 1 reminisces about meeting Lisa Mathews at the Marble Bar and describes the band Beyond Words, which included George on drums and Michael Gale on guitar.
• Lisa Mathews and Speaker 1 discuss the band’s new wave sound, including the use of synthesizers and drum pads.
• Lisa Mathews mentions that Love Riot was formed after Beyond Words, influenced by the grunge movement of the 90s, and included a violinist, Willem El Severe.

Formation and Evolution of Love Riot

• Lisa Mathews explains that Love Riot was a four-piece band with no drums, adding a violin instead.
• Speaker 1 and Lisa Mathews discuss the band’s transition from Beyond Words and the influence of grunge music.
• Lisa Mathews mentions the band’s newsletters, which they used to keep in touch with fans, and the importance of fan engagement.
• Speaker 1 shares a similar experience with his own newsletters and the importance of fan interaction.

Love Riot’s Success and Competitions

• Lisa Mathews talks about the band’s first release, a self-titled cassette, and their entry into the Yamaha Music Quest competition.
• The band won the national semi-finals and represented the US in Japan, where they performed and won the competition.
• The band used the prize money to record their next album, “Muscle,” which included more percussion and drums.
• Young Ron joined the band in 1994, and they continued to perform and record, eventually releasing “Maybe She Will” on a small indie label.

Love Riot’s Impact and Recognition

• Speaker 1 and Lisa Mathews discuss the band’s influence and the importance of having a memorable band name.
• Lisa Mathews shares the story of how the band’s song “Killing Time” was featured on the TV show “Homicide: Life on the Street.”
• The band’s music was well-received, and they continued to tour and perform, gaining national recognition.
• Lisa Mathews mentions the band’s involvement in the Lilith Fair and the influence of female-led bands like Alanis Morissette and Sheryl Crow.

Reunion and Future Plans

• Lisa Mathews shares the story of how her daughter inspired the band to reunite and start writing new music.
• The band has been rehearsing and writing new songs, with plans to release a new album called “Better Now.”
• Lisa Mathews mentions upcoming shows at the Creative Alliance on November 21 and the Encore Collective on February 13.
• The band is also planning to release their music on vinyl through a Kickstarter campaign.

Personal Reflections and Final Thoughts

• Speaker 1 and Lisa Mathews discuss the band’s history and the importance of fan engagement.
• Lisa Mathews reflects on the band’s evolution and the joy of performing together again.
• Speaker 1 shares a personal story about a friend who received a new heart and the importance of music in his life.
• The conversation ends with a discussion about the band’s upcoming shows and the excitement of their reunion.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Love Riot, band reunion, new wave, grunge, Creative Alliance, November 21, Kickstarter campaign, vinyl record, Baltimore music, Milkshake, Alanis Morissette, Lilith Fair, Homicide: Life on the Street, Maryland lottery, GBMC.

SPEAKERS

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Speaker 2, Nestor J. Aparicio, Speaker 1, Lisa Mathews, “Young” Ron Campbell

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 to Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We have a crowded set here. We’re Coco’s pub in beautiful lauraville, Maryland, right on Harford road, right by Morgan State, right by Montebello, not Monticello. And I don’t have racig with me today. Is my co host with a K. He is watching his grand twins. So in lieu of sports, I had Greg sit in and argue with me with the Orioles. Now we’re gonna move to the fun part of the program, the musical part. All we did was fight, and he’s gonna be mad at me, especially the Orioles lose. There are no losers when it comes to rock and roll, and that’s why I love music, because it always sort of satisfies my soul. Lisa Matthews and I met when I was underage. I was a young, young young man at the marble bar. The only time I think I ever walked into marble bar. Joyce Bucci, who was my art teacher, brought me out to cover her band. Beyond words, George can deal us on the drums. Michael, Gal pretty, pretty good friend of Elise as well. And Lisa was this older woman for me, and beautiful and intimidating and very sort of like your band was like the motels, according to George and you, the last time we got together, I it was a female led cars. Is kind of how I would look at it. And, like, the late 80s, sort of of that era and they parted

Lisa Mathews  01:29

you. We had, like, black hair, and even the guys wore the eyeliner you were

Nestor J. Aparicio  01:34

trying to get on MTV, yeah, basically everybody was trying to get you wavy,

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Lisa Mathews  01:38

new wavy. We had the synthesizers and the and the drum pads and

Nestor J. Aparicio  01:42

in my dreams, in my dreams, yeah, yeah, that was

Lisa Mathews  01:46

yourself. Still go. There’s band camps with beyond words. We just put it on Spotify. You can go listen to beyond words if you’re into the if you’re into the new wavy kind of sound, yeah.

Speaker 1  01:58

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Well, you know that was there. And I don’t know whether love riot came before or after milkshake. I’m not sure. Oh,

Lisa Mathews  02:06

no, love riot. Love riot is before, yeah. And what

Speaker 1  02:10

happened, love riot was the next rock band for you, after beyond words, right? Yeah.

Lisa Mathews  02:14

So Michael Gale and I, guitarist Michael Gail and I, and Mark ivanko, bass player for beyond words, right? We ran beyond words and just started feeling like we wanted something different. It was the 90s, then right, and grungy come. Grunge was coming, and we just wanted something drastically different. We didn’t know exactly what, but so we went drastically different. No drums, added a violin, Willem el severe on violin. So it was just a four piece now, and it was a different, different sound. You know, what was I listening to then? Because that

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02:52

would influence what you’re doing. Oh, my young Ron’s here. Also

Lisa Mathews  02:57

the drummer. Now he came, so I came later on. Yeah, you

Speaker 1  02:59

guys have brought me also, you brought cassettes. Brought me love, right? Cassettes? I have newsletters which remind me of my nasty newsletter, like a riot stuff. So, yep, I mean, and this is 1996 96

Lisa Mathews  03:11

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I used to make these because that we we loved our fans. We still love our fans. If they’re still out there, we don’t know. I’m still here. I’m your fan, that’s right. So I would make these little newsletters and mail them out bulk mail.

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:23

And I did the exact same thing in the same era, all the minor dated 9692 I ran into the man, by the way, Lou Marzullo. I ran into him last night at the Italian event. He did. He was my printer, so he printed all my stuff at junior press in Towson. So I actually ran into the guy that printed my version, just almost identical. It was like newsletters were a thing. This is how you had fans. And I will say this, Lisa’s here and young Ron’s here from love riot, and they put the band back together. Who says you can’t put the band back and you’re doing a big thing later on in the month. But once a band girl, always a band girl in that you came in, and instead of putting the signs up the posters that you would do for the band, she pinned me, she gave me she’s already promoting the band, and said, You need a love riot pin so you can be a fan.

Lisa Mathews  04:13

You know what friends that come to our show at the creative Alliance on November 21 Friday for November 21 door is open at 6:37pm show, if you bring a canned good for Maryland Food Bank and or used clothing, or new clothing, a gently used clothing, new clothing for Paul’s place, you will get a free button. All

Speaker 1  04:35

right, I now owe her canned goods, I think is

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“Young” Ron Campbell  04:40

what I do. You he

Lisa Mathews  04:43

gave me a can of beans for

Speaker 1  04:44

that. Well, you know, young Ron came up to me before I started. He’s, I’m a big sports fan, and I’m like, so what am I?

Speaker 1  04:51

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You’re my old rock and roll friend that I had a crush on 40 years ago and still have a crush on. I love pretty girls. It can sing, yes, I didn’t like girls to. New York back then. So much. But, you know, but you’re like a Baltimore on now,

Lisa Mathews  05:03

right? Always been a Yeah, Baltimore on yeah from New York, but been here longer. Well, the last time

Speaker 1  05:08

I had you on, it was you, Gina shock, George, Michael game, we did it at Costas about three years ago. Christmas times been like three years. And I know I talked to you about beyond words. And George was telling me about Scratch and sniff and Gina shock, and it was all of this stuff, love riot and what it became so love riot happened like, kind of after hammer Jacks had closed, right? Kind of like that part of the hairspray thing, it ended all the all the cars music and all of that new wave stuff had gone away as well. Give me the origin of love, right? And tell me about putting it back together all these years. Because I don’t know when it ended. I know kind of it had started after beyond words, but I always, and I never got to tell you this, because I didn’t really know you so much this point my life. And I wasn’t I was doing sports stuff. I was nasty Esther, you know, ravens were coming and, like all that stuff. But I always thought love riot is, like the greatest name for a band, you know, like, you should have made it huge, just because there’s a great frickin name, we

06:08

should have made a huge love riot.

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Lisa Mathews  06:10

We did well, you know, it’s, it’s interesting. Well, let me give, let me answer your question, to give you the quick, quick story,

06:18

okay, because I don’t, I know the beyond world story, but I don’t know the love

Lisa Mathews  06:21

rides this 1993 right? And in fact, is our first release, self titled disc,

Speaker 1  06:28

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little holes. I always love that feeling. Wind

Lisa Mathews  06:31

it up, right? Yeah, actually, um, the drummer from beyond words was on a few of these songs, and some of these songs are beyond words songs that it was like a transitional thing, right? And we were kind of more melodic and love, right? True to our name, we were writing songs about love. And love can be all kinds of different dimensions, right? It can be horrible and heartbreaking and amazing and thrilling and passionate. And so we wrote song, love songs and and from this, from this cassette, do you mind if I take it from

Speaker 1  07:09

you, not an eight track, it’s a cassette. Let me get my finger out. I don’t have anything to play out.

Lisa Mathews  07:15

So Michael says he sees this something one day. This ad for a thing, Yamaha sponsors this worldwide competition called Music quest, right? And we had this cassette, and on this cassette is a song called Killing time, right? And so we entered this we used, we used songs from this cassette to enter this contest. And they, they, they like us enough. They send a guy to come look for us. We make the fight the semi finals, which is national. They send us to the House of Blues in LA, but you weren’t signed at that point. No, no, we’re not signed at all. And so we go to the House of Blues in LA, perform four songs, right? We win that. And then they send us to Japan to represent the US of A in this worldwide competition, and we only get one song. There were like 1617, bands that competed from all over the

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Speaker 1  08:11

world. A lot of media at the time, you were on television, your library in the paper, I remember that was,

“Young” Ron Campbell  08:17

I wasn’t in the band yet. Yeah, they always tell me about, hey, remember in Japan one week, every time we’re good, we’re on tour or whatever. Hey, remember in Japan and you barely

Lisa Mathews  08:33

so well. Mark loved that you could buy beer from these vending machines on the sidewalk. It was me. Didn’t love that way. Japan’s cool. So we took the money that we made from the that contest and we made it. We reinvested it in recording muscle with Eric Roscoe amble, who’s a really amazing musician in his own right. So muscle was still acoustic. But then we started adding some percussion. And we said, hey, we like that,

Speaker 1  09:06

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because Elise, you know, there. And then you guys were such art. You should be playing at the Creative Arts Alliance,

Lisa Mathews  09:17

right? Let me for it. So anyway, listen, so then we liked the percussion sound on that, and we said, let’s add drums, you know, and young Ron, that’s how I got in. Came in.

“Young” Ron Campbell  09:29

So when did you enter the band? I came in 1994 I was, I would do, we did shows together. We were in different bands that were playing shows together. I was in a band called The Last Picture Show when they were so we were doing all the Lou maestro, right, writing songs, and we did original so we had that bond of, like, we’re, we’re original bands, kind of a different click than the cover band, you know that sure, you know. And, yeah. So I would book the band. I was a fan of love riot for while they were in Japan. I was, you know. Had my love ride pom poms. So I was a huge fan. And when an opportunity came up and they asked, you know, Hey, you want to play some drums, I was like, I really want to play some drums for this band.

Lisa Mathews  10:13

And so, moving on, there you are.

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10:16

Yeah, then we got set,

Lisa Mathews  10:19

moved into, I don’t know, high technology, right? So maybe she will happen digitized. And this was on a small indie label out in California, and I like playing with things, yeah, yeah. So that was maybe she will. And rock

Speaker 1  10:36

and roll isn’t just kid stuff. It could be brash and boisterous, sure, but can also be smart, subtle and sophisticated, like love Ryan, yes, I should do that more, my professional, my professional, yes,

Lisa Mathews  10:49

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yeah, like an advertisement, yeah. So this was a great release, again, produced by Roscoe and Eric gamble.

Speaker 1  10:58

Roscoe Considine, who wrote that, I can do that. JDS, voice, you can. Let’s hear it, no. JB, mad at me. JD, never liked me. He’s up in Toronto now. I hope he’s well. He is well, he’s a great writer. Two kids, well, he wrote for the morning. Son, I wrote for the evening. Son, so and he was cultured, sophisticated, smart Hopkins, educated. I was a punk from Dundalk, you know, I was like, the Aerosmith Punk in the streets, you know what I mean, I was just, you know, I was the last child, you know what I mean, so, yeah, but, JD, was like, JD, Considine, like Cameron Crowe. I was more like, you know, some knucklehead, right? Yeah, yeah. He was legit though. I mean, he was rolling stone. So JD wrote that he

Lisa Mathews  11:43

was a big fan of us early on. And you know what that

Speaker 1  11:47

sounds about, right? Because he had good taste. See that he did. He had good taste. So JDS tastes were above poison and rat and slaughter. You know what I mean? Where I fit more into that

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Lisa Mathews  11:59

you’re on the night shift, and he was a day Yeah?

Speaker 1  12:01

Gee, I would have been more into Mumford and Sons and more into, you know, Radiohead, than I would have been at the time.

“Young” Ron Campbell  12:07

That’s all Elvis Costello. It’s a

Lisa Mathews  12:09

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big fan of Japanese, yeah. So this started getting us some radio airplay, and we started relentlessly touring. And one night, I was at a party with this guy.

Speaker 1  12:24

You know, I love your show and tell. By the way, love ride folks, your young rounds, your Lisa’s here, if you’re listening out on the radio, this looks like it’s in a subway.

Lisa Mathews  12:34

Well, it’s on the set of Homicide Life on the Street. And James Yashi, more, the guy in the center, he was a writer, and I met him at a party, and he was looking for music, and he loved in homicide, and so he actually rode us into the subway.

Speaker 1  12:54

Simon, yeah, my former co worker, David, Simon’s in these pictures now, Simon, doing it hanging

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Lisa Mathews  13:01

out. We were playing the blues while we were waiting to do our lines. Yeah, right. Oh

Speaker 1  13:06

my, I had a line. Did he write you guys into the wire or anything? Or no, yeah.

Lisa Mathews  13:12

So, so what was the song we did on that set? Did you ever see that episode with Vincent dinafrio

Lisa Mathews  13:19

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As I did not the subway episode. It’s the best episode.

Lisa Mathews  13:24

It is thrilling, homicide, homicide, life on the street. You can stream it on paramount right now, and it’s a great episode. Vincent D’Onofrio, right? He gets pushed onto an oncoming train, right? It’s called the subway. And we were actually at the that we don’t have a subway here in Baltimore. So we brought the light rail, underground light rail.

Speaker 1  13:44

I see Michael Gellin who back there and see what I think is Simon, to be really honest, people ask me about Simon. I work with him at the sun, yeah, from 86 to 90, that’s what he looked like. It’s exactly what he looked like. David, Simon, right there, right there. So you got your music placed in homicide, and that was obviously big

Lisa Mathews  14:01

deal. The song that they wanted was a song called killing time. Killing time Nestor

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14:08

the NBC TV show homicide. And

Lisa Mathews  14:10

that’s a song that we won in Japan. That song has been like crazy good to us.

Speaker 1  14:16

Yeah, to play it at the Patterson, oh no, of course we’ll have riddled Riddle me this, putting the band back together is like a, you know, that’s an expression, right? Put the band back together. Give me that metamorphosis. Because I think three years ago, at least on the show, we were being wistful about beyond words, which I was trying to educate people about, scratch and sniff and your drummer, who was not the drummer, and Gina shocks band, because she was the drummer. We’re going back to John Waters, and we’re going back to, like, the late 70s and punk. And then the Go Go’s happened in 81 and then George was here, and you were in a band with a guy who used to be in a band with the girl from the Go Go’s, and they’re the biggest bands in the world. And then you wind up on this TV thing. Saying what ended love riot and what has brought it back together?

Lisa Mathews  15:03

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Okay, okay, I’m gonna go quickly. Let’s fast forward through like, 24 years of milkshake, a very successful band for kids. And that’s a genre most people don’t even like. We were not even included in that special, you know, Baltimore band saying, because people don’t think kindy music is a thing, but we were, like, it was like, this huge bell curve. We were we were milkshake was on Nick Jr and we were on first. We were noggin Nick Jr, PBS Kids, Discovery Kids, when it was around a real national act. Oh my gosh. We were on kid TV, which propelled us to national touring and Mexico. And it was amazing. Green rooms. It was like huge and so here we are in this off the grid for most people, but on the grid, if you’re a parent, right with kids, and

Speaker 1  15:58

anybody with kids, no offense to love Ryan, either one of you, or any of these incredible accomplishments or beyond words, which is how I know of you and think of you. I still hear you singing in my dreams, quite frankly.

Lisa Mathews  16:10

Well, we got milkshake, got a Grammy nomination for one of our records. But the thing is, it was very successful, and our kids, Michael and my kids, grew up in in the band. We would take them on the road with us. They would be like, you know, in the green room playing, and they got to see a lot of America that way. I love that. But one day, I’m driving with Jesse, who is now 25 right? And I am, I had just digitized all the love riot stuff, and put it up on Spotify and Apple Music and all those platforms. And so I called up, you want to hear my old band, love riot and

Speaker 1  16:48

your daughter, My daughter, and she doesn’t know love riot well at all. No, no,

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Lisa Mathews  16:52

no, we’re no, no, no, no. She was

“Young” Ron Campbell  16:55

born after we and

Speaker 1  16:56

where would she hear it? You’re not playing it in the house. She’s not hearing it on the radio. It’s just my mom’s old band, her cool rock band, yeah, 90s,

Lisa Mathews  17:03

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so yeah. And anyway, we’re driving. And she’s like, Mom, Mom, this is like, really good. I said, Yeah, it does sound good, doesn’t it? And I’m like, you know, she says, Mom, I would come and see this band. I said, Yeah, you would. She goes, Yeah, you’ve got to get this band back together. And so this was like last year, right? Last year, like late last year, we’ve been, we’ve been wood shedding and learning the our old stuff and writing new songs for the past, like, seven or eight months, right?

17:33

What sighted you are about this?

Lisa Mathews  17:36

I’m excited, you know? And so now she can’t come to she can’t see me at the show, but she can’t. She’s in San Francisco now. She’s got a promotion, but you can virtual, live stream friends that aren’t here anymore can still see us that night. What is

“Young” Ron Campbell  17:54

this gig? November 21 Friday, November 21 seven to nine.

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Lisa Mathews  17:59

Yeah, yeah. It’s almost sold out, so get your tickets. I

“Young” Ron Campbell  18:03

know the virtual thing is still, I

Speaker 1  18:06

gotta plug a sponsor here. You okay with this? Yeah, please. All right. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery, our Maryland crab cake tour, we have Raven scratch offs. By the way, I’m gonna give you guys some Raven scratch offs right now as well. So I’m also sponsored, and I shouldn’t say this too much too loud during the lunch hour here at Coco’s. But I’m also sponsored by by GBMC. I have a really important engagement in the morning of November 21 is it medical? Yeah, I’m a 57 year old male who has never had a colonoscopy. Oh, no. So, so, you know, I’ve, I’ve heard about the number and the and I’ve had,

Lisa Mathews  18:40

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can’t you do the box?

Speaker 1  18:43

I’ve done dozens of segments with men who’ve survived it. You know, obviously it’s a very important thing. But as a spokesperson for GBMC at this point, and they are my doctor of record, I have, I’m going to be drinking a special milkshake on Thursday night, not your kind of milkshake. And everyone has warned me about this so, but I’ve also heard that it’s a really nice sleep that I’m gonna have on Friday the 21st in the morning, around 720 I’m gonna wake up from this sleep and apparently, have a very nice day. And I don’t know that I can make it to Patterson. So, you know, I don’t just live stream it. I don’t know what I’m expecting. It sit in your bed and like so I want to tell you that I’m coming, because I would come down to Highland town. I go over to Chaucer, over to Matthew I love that’s my that’s my beautiful. I took my first guitar lessons right across the street at yeagers music up on the second floor, 1975 I got my first guitar went, you know, play it, but, but, but the Patterson is, I mean, I saw Jaws there, I saw, you know, stir crazy there. I saw the good flicks there, you know. So, yeah, Patterson arch is. So how did you woke up with them that your your arts. Why are you playing there? Tell

Lisa Mathews  19:55

me, well, because a fan reached out and said, Hey, I I work at the. Creative Alliance. Do you want to play here? And like, okay, reaching out to us. Do you want to play well, if you

Speaker 1  20:09

don’t see me on Friday the 21st I’m at the at the mercy of my friends at GBMC and this medical procedure that I’m having that day. But for your fans and for people coming out, when is the last time you performed as love riot, where anybody in Baltimore would Did you do a Fletchers? So you never did a reunion, a one off a five year. We’re not thinking that once it was done, yeah. What year would that have been?

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“Young” Ron Campbell  20:34

2099 It was December. It was our Christmas show. Yeah, Christmas, Christmas show. So you

20:38

guys haven’t played together in 26 years,

“Young” Ron Campbell  20:41

and when we first got back to go to rehearse, you know, like, we’re all like, almost, I think I was a little nervous. We were all a little nervous about, like, what, what’s this gonna be, right? And then we it’s just 234, we started playing the song, and it was like, riding a bike. Yeah, it was like, right now, it was beautiful.

Lisa Mathews  20:56

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Felt so comfortable. It was like, I was right back with my brother. I had to relearn how to sing the way I used to sing, and it was shocking to me. And I also had to relearn guitar, because I didn’t sing for kids, just a different it’s a more topical and UN it’s not it’s not difficult, it’s not all embellished. And I listened to my old stuff, and I’m like, oh boy. I don’t even know if I could hit that note anymore, you know, but, but pretty much, it’s pretty much there now, but it’s been, it’s been

“Young” Ron Campbell  21:27

so it’s just one, or is there? Oh, we’re gonna play, we’re gonna do stuff, yeah,

Lisa Mathews  21:32

yeah, we have no we, we’re gonna keep going like we have the new record coming out next, next year, called better now, and yeah, it’s gonna be great. We’ve been recording new songs. I’ll be

Speaker 1  21:42

better after the 21st cleared out. Well, I mean, I just want to know if this is a one time

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Lisa Mathews  21:51

gig. We’re also at the Encore collective February. That’s a great room. February 13, all right, so you’re already booking more gigs. Yeah, it’s, um, it’s Valentine’s Eve. So that’s a big night for us, and we might, it might be a record release. I don’t know. We’ll see

Speaker 1  22:05

my wife’s always like, let’s get a room down at Columbia water.

Lisa Mathews  22:10

Do it? You’re on the guest list, you know? Yeah, man,

Speaker 1  22:14

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love riot was a part of my youth, in my early 20s. Some other folks maybe a little younger, a little younger, a little older, but they’re putting the band back together killing time. If you’re familiar with homicide, life on the street, if you know Lisa’s work through milkshake and Michael and those guys, as well as beyond words, back in the day, you have brought me a whole travelog here to Coco’s today. You also brought me a you have a little postcard. That’s the way we look now,

Lisa Mathews  22:40

sophisticated, elegant. I made them dress up,

Speaker 1  22:43

all aged. Well, it’s been a while with love, right there it is, right there. There it is, by the way. And I can even go QR code. That’s how modern we are here.

Lisa Mathews  22:54

Love, right? Band, calm, you are real. I don’t know. I guess I don’t know. Yes,

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Speaker 1  23:00

young Ron, anybody like Lisa in your time, she’s a lifer

Lisa Mathews  23:04

in this stuff. You know, that’s great. I’m just a creative force. That’s all you

Speaker 1  23:07

know. Well, I’m glad to have your force within us. Thank you. Oh, I want to tell you one more thing, sure, before we go, we don’t have to go well, we want to eat a crab cake. No, no. Young Ron. And I gonna fix the orals and ravens here before you fix them,

Lisa Mathews  23:24

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you need a guy. Okay, see, oh, Tommy, oh Tawny, Otani, Tani

Speaker 1  23:31

you need you’re always rocking you. Said one other thing you want to tell

Lisa Mathews  23:39

us. So listen for that new record better. Now we we got the recording just about done, but we need to mix master and manufacture. We’re going to do vinyl. And we’d love to do vinyl of having can wait and this one, right? We’d love to do vinyl of that. I don’t

Speaker 1  24:00

have a record player. I’m not gonna lie to you, man, okay, you can keep that. I’m not a Spotify guy. You know, this would speak to what kind of music fan I am. I, you know, I love music. I travel the world seeing music. I, you know, I love music. But this is not a music device. This is, this is, I still call it a phone. It is a device. It’s the way I communicate this. I do not enjoy music when it comes from this, because it gets interrupted by other things. So whereas my wife will be like an Apple Music, and I’ll say, I don’t know, put that John Mayer album I like on and just play it when I am tethered to a cables, because I like cables better than Wi Fi, which lets me down from time to time, even let down the point of sale when Amazon went down two weeks ago, and a lot of businesses. But I have an iPod, and it has a mini jack on it and has a cord, and I have my speaker, my little Bose has a mini jack on it, and I am the nerd that still carries two. 1001 technology everywhere I go, it’s my little Binky. My I have a classic. I bought it for 220 bucks online, like three years ago. At Christmas time, I said to my wife, I’m like, Look, it might only last a month. It might last three years. I’ll get another one. I’ve just decided that my life, my music, my hard drive, is on an Apple computer and an mp three, and that’s the way I want so these CDs, I will take these, I will load them on to my mp three. I will load them onto my iPod like I have for music of your air, like Tommy comwell and the young Rumblers, right? Oh, other local, regional bands that you’re not going to find their stuff on Spotify or apple

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Lisa Mathews  25:42

you can, yeah, we’re on, we’re on Spotify, Apple, Amazon, everywhere, still not

Speaker 1  25:48

getting Okay, still gonna put it onto my iPad. Okay? Because that’s who I am.

Lisa Mathews  25:54

There you go. I like the idea of an album, a statement. You know, this is an album having Kuwait. I

Speaker 1  26:01

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always like to read the liner notes to see how pretty you look and see what JD Considine, yeah, I’m a liner notes guy, so pictures

Lisa Mathews  26:08

of us in there. Yeah, words here, you know. So I’m trying, I’m hoping, with this Kickstarter campaign that we’re going to launch to finish mixing Manu, mixing, mastering and manufacturing, that any leftover money after we finished better now we can actually manufacture vinyl for maybe she will and having can wait. I know you’re not a vinyl person, but there are friends out there that are vinyl audio file snobs. My My husband

Speaker 1  26:35

has 4000 record you’re the high end. I can’t hear the high end. Well, there’s something wonderful. Again. It’s a statement. They’re just heavy. For me at this point in my life, carrying them is the issue. Oh yeah, they’re heavy. Oh yeah. Albums are heavy. Yeah, books are heavy. I love books, but yeah, when it comes to traveling with one bag to the Caribbean for a couple days, books like

Lisa Mathews  26:52

50% or whatever, iPod is great.

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Speaker 1  26:55

I gotta do it that way. That’s right. So I all original members still alive. Well, yeah, so I can read this off here. Lisa Matthews, Ron Campbell, young Ron, where’s Michael? Where’s he? He’s around. I miss him. Tell us at hello. Okay,

Lisa Mathews  27:13

guys, yeah, he couldn’t come today.

Speaker 1  27:14

William and Mark also in the band, and they’ll be with us. Patterson on the 21st as well as collective encore on February 13, that’s right, Kickstarter album. Am I missing that? I leave anything out? Did I get it all in

Lisa Mathews  27:27

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Kickstarter creative Alliance? And yeah, the new album, and we are so glad to be back playing music. It is gratifying beyond belief. It is so exciting. But you know what I do find that the songs that we’re writing now, like some songs from the past, just didn’t make sense for me as an older person, to sing them, an older woman, to sing, I can’t. I’m not gonna sing this song or that song, or some songs like satisfied, they’re too sappy. I’m not there anymore. You know. I know they’re like, You got to do that. But no. And some of the songs that we were like, one song is all right, it’s about climate change, you know. And another not your face, you know. I’m not that kind of writer, but, you know, the song be a little bit political, a little bit

Speaker 1  28:19

but changes in your face when hurricanes are taken out, yeah?

Lisa Mathews  28:23

But it’s not all love songs, you know. Or maybe it’s a love of something else.

Speaker 1  28:28

Why love riot? How did that become the name of the bank? It’s such a great name, yeah, I don’t remember.

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Lisa Mathews  28:33

Actually, let’s make up a story. Why love right? It seemed to make sense with what we were going to be doing, love songs and and,

Speaker 1  28:42

well, coming up with the name of the band is really hard to do, and with a good name, remember, we finished second place or no? No, what? What was second place? No, if it wasn’t love, right? You don’t have another name. No, like Pearl Jam was Mookie Blaylock, maybe. Yeah, right. I mean, did you know that their original name was Mookie Blaylock? So when I saw Pearl Jam in Atlanta, of course, Jeff amont put on a Mookie Blaylock Atlanta Hawks jersey. So that was like a nod to what the name of their band could have been. So that’s all. I didn’t

Lisa Mathews  29:10

know. That’s cool. Maybe mom’s diner open 24 hours. So your

Speaker 1  29:14

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daughter listening to your music, what other feedback did she give you from a from a young person’s take on what was modern in the 90s and your sound. What would you? Who would you compare your sound to, if somebody’s listening to us right now? What was live, love riot like? Who were your

Lisa Mathews  29:31

comparables? Wow. You said Japanese breakfast comparable nowadays?

“Young” Ron Campbell  29:39

Yeah, from, like, a

Speaker 1  29:41

with a female voice, you would be compared to probably a lot of the little fair artists in some way. I mean, Alanis Morissette broke big in that period of time when your band was out. You weren’t like her, but it was a woman led band of, of Yeah,

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Lisa Mathews  29:55

so yeah, and she was, and remains one of my you know. Heroes, Alanis and Sheryl Crow, you know, Pretenders, all those, all those great singers, you know. So

“Young” Ron Campbell  30:08

we did, we did the Lilith fair. We involved. So great if we had access to the backstage, if we could just go back there and stand next to, you know, whoever, and just start a conversation. It was really neat. It

Lisa Mathews  30:22

was Yeah, so and, you know, it’s different now, because back then, we had lots of time to look forward to, lots of plans to make. And now, in our older entities, it’s like every show is a gift. I mean, I don’t want to sound morbid, but we can’t have a 20 year plan. It just doesn’t make sense for us, right? Sure we can have a one year plan, three year plan, five year plan, maybe a 10 year plan. And that’s great. It’s all beautiful. You know, we’ve, we’ve all had great musical careers, and, and, and this is just, this is just the icing on the cake. I feel this is just this makes so much sense to come full circle, back to back to love riot. You know,

Speaker 1  31:07

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love riots out on the 21st get down to Patterson, Creative Arts Alliance, a place I love, near and dear to my heart, in Holland town, I say red Holland town, are you want to do any sports with me? Because you said, like a listener, I have

“Young” Ron Campbell  31:20

a theory about the Orioles not winning the World Series. It’s my fault. No, I remember after they named Cal Ripken the MVP, I said the baseball guys weren’t going to be happy, because it should have been Eddie, yeah, and we haven’t won a World Series since. So maybe it’s the curse of having the wrong guy as the MVP.

Speaker 1  31:39

I don’t know, man, I’m just chronicling it, and I’m just waiting for the tides to change.

“Young” Ron Campbell  31:44

We’re ready, yeah, I’m do. We’re due on a

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Speaker 1  31:47

baseball side for sure. Football’s been good, yeah? We’ve been okay with right?

“Young” Ron Campbell  31:50

Yes, yeah. It’s been great. Just, you know, even that this year, going being a Ravens go to all the games, yeah? Okay. And people will say the these are the worst yeah, I’ve ever seen. Like, no, no, no, you weren’t around in 96 and 97 Marvin Lewis

Speaker 1  32:06

on a couple weeks ago, we talked about that, how far this whole thing has come. Yeah, had tough it out, you know? And well, where you’re exposed to make the playoffs every year, and if you three and five, it’s, you know, the end of the world when your quarterbacks injured. So I, I will say, we’ve been spoiled. Yeah, as local sports fans, yeah, football fans, not baseball. Yeah, baseball. We’ve been starved, but I’m not starving. We’re out of your Cocos pop, we’re doing the Maryland crab cake tour. It’s all presented by our friends at the Maryland lottery. I do have some Raven scratch offs to give away. You get lucky. 38 You got lucky. 34 for Wild Bill, hey, because I already know you got Memorial Stadium roots. Yeah, love riot is back there after it on the 21st they have an album coming out. They’re gonna be playing down at Columbia on February 13. So if you love love riot, if you miss love, right, go see them. Lisa’s here. Give Michael my best. I don’t know the rest of the members of your band, but it’s good to know you’re young. Ryan. Appreciate you. And you know, if you leave the CDs, I’ll record them down. Cassettes are a little more problematic, you know,

Lisa Mathews  33:02

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precious. I can’t play them, but I want to keep them.

Speaker 1  33:06

Am radio station. We had cart machines, which were eight tracks. You know, obviously they played all the commercials back in the day. So I still have a rack in the that’s built for eight tracks. I don’t know what you stick in those things at this point, because nothing sticks in an eight track hole,

“Young” Ron Campbell  33:21

but I can still hear songs where the eight track would flip in the middle of it. Boss. Hear it

Speaker 1  33:25

today. If you get Boston one, you would always do that during long time. Yeah, yeah, right there in that guitar thing, click, yeah. And then it was still here. It’s been such a long time. All right. Lisa’s here. It has been a long time, Nestor, I want you to you guys sing with your band. Yeah, you

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Lisa Mathews  33:43

do something. I’m ready to go. I’m gonna get him on some backing vocals, man,

Speaker 1  33:50

backing track on the Ravens. I’m a raven maniac song in 1996

“Young” Ron Campbell  33:56

we can harmonize now.

Speaker 1  33:59

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So I gotta give a shout out musically here, and I’m not gonna cry because I’ve been practicing this. My dear friend Eddie Lauer received a new heart last night. Amazing. So amazing. Yeah, and if I talk about it, I’ll start to sob and I’ll be an idiot and I’ll be a blubbering idiot. But he thanked me on his album. It is first I found his album yesterday, when he’s doing the doing the transplant. So I found some old pictures, and literally I mean they’re on my phone. I put them up and he played a party of mine, and I took pictures of the albums and the liner notes, and I put them up on my Facebook, yeah, and I put them up yesterday, and I didn’t read the liner notes. I just put them up and I thought, maybe that’s Ed’s old girlfriend, and I don’t want his picture up, or it’s been 1993

34:43

I saw

Speaker 1  34:44

the girls on his lap. It was a Pepper’s cafe where that picture, I promise, yeah, I saw that. I don’t know. I don’t know who it is, when comes out of this. I’m gonna ask him.

Lisa Mathews  34:54

So another heart attack that you put that up? No,

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Speaker 1  34:58

he’s got a new heart. Is. Perfect. He’s going to be absolutely perfect. So I looked on, I won’t pull this up on my phone, because this speaks to the power of liner notes. So I put a picture Ed. This is my ass on cane street with the pink walls. There’s Ed CD, love and loneliness. That’s the brick wall at peppers, right? Yeah. And then there’s ed at my party with my late great friend, Doug Bennett, was one of my dearest friends and music. And then I looked at the liner notes. And I looked literally in the liner notes this morning over coffee nasty Nestor music is in the liner last one. And I had no idea when I put this up that he thanked me in his liner notes in 1993 and I’m like, It’s precious. I thought it was only a nice enough in Child’s Play. And one other band thanked me in their liner notes one time. I don’t know, but that’s a big deal to get your name and somebody means they love you. You know, if my name was in, maybe I’m in. Beyond words is liner notes. I should go check it out. I might be Joyce might have done that. Yeah, she might have. Probably that’s a big thing, because you mentioned Sheryl Crow a couple minutes ago. And I was fortunate enough last Thursday night I flew to Nashville.

Lisa Mathews  36:02

I saw that picture. That’s crazy.

Speaker 1  36:05

Cameron Crowe, yeah, I don’t idolize him. I’m not that guy. I’ve never even seen Vanilla Sky. I’ve never seen say anything. But Cameron Crowe, I was always compared to him when bud Becker would see me at hammer Jacks when I was 17 years old. You remind me of Cameron Crowe. I’m like, Who the hell’s that? And nobody told me he was the fast times of Richmond High guy that would have known that, right? And the Jerry Maguire guy, which I would know that. So Cameron Crowe has a book on his life that’s come out, and I have been very compelled to his Almost Famous that I was the 17 year old music critic backstage with you when you were a grown woman in a band, and I was had the notebook in front of you and George and Michael and all of them that I have this kinship with Cameron Crowe in that I had never met any other 15 year old music critics besides him and me, literally, right. So I decided to fly to Nashville to be a part of this thing. And you remind me of Sheryl Crow in that she was a school teacher, and you have this sort of motherly way about your storytelling and all your milkshake years, I’m sure that Sheryl Crow was the perfect foil for him, because she was like a school teacher asking questions, and Cameron Crowe’s mother was a school teacher. Oh, that’s so there’s this whole thing that went on. So when you mentioned Sheryl Crow, yeah, and you mentioned like, that kind of music and that kind of artist, that’s kind of artist, you were serious, yeah, music person is

Speaker 2  37:31

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who you are, yeah, I guess I am what I do. You’re

Speaker 1  37:34

a lifer. Love riots back together.

Lisa Mathews  37:38

Please come see us. We would like to see you. So we miss our fans. It’s gonna be so exciting. I think, really, I think the creative Alliance show will be a big party. It’s gonna be great.

37:48

I got a button as we make

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Lisa Mathews  37:50

T shirts, I’ll get you one. Nestor, my thanks everybody here.

Speaker 1  37:53

Coco’s, I’m gonna continue on. Yes, we’re gonna go. How’s this coming on? I have Nancy Longo from pure point restaurant coming by. Chef Nancy coming by. We’ll talk food. We’re gonna talk crab cakes. We’re gonna talk neighborhood, probably gonna talk old Baltimore, because we like to do that as well. But little music, Little Rock and Roll. We had some sports with Greg Abel. We’re out here with Cocos. It is the Maryland crab cake tour. It is presented by our friends at the Maryland lottery. I have Raven scratch offs to give away. It’s been a lucky batch. I’ve already had a $20 winner, at a $5 winner, winner, winner. I felt like, Oprah, you’re a winner. You’re a winner because I’m getting some coconut shrimp and I’m gonna get a Greek salad. No crab cake. Okay? Crab cake needs no introduction. Everyone knows you’re getting a crab cake? Yeah, I got, have you ever had the coconut shrimp? Here? I have, yeah, unbelievable. Have you had the cream of crap soup here? Unbelievable. And my wife on the way out the door this morning, and I tell Mars this in the next segment, I took her ribs home about a month and a half ago, which I’ve never done. I just wanted to do something different. Yeah, and taking a cheeseburger home doesn’t make any sense. So I took ribs home, and her coleslaw is the best in town. Her mom’s coleslaw recipe is my mom’s coleslaw recipe. It’s perfect. So I took the ribs home, and I sliced them down, and I went and I got some Kings Hawaiian rolls, yeah, and I did sliders. So I took her pork and her coleslaw, and I took little slider rolls, and I watched the Ravens game last weekend with that, and my wife was like, you’re gonna bring some of those ribs home, right? Coleslaw? We need to have that around here this weekend for the games. So So I mean, it’s one thing to talk about the Coco’s crab cake, but when you walk in the door, the first thing you see is,

Lisa Mathews  39:45

are those giant it’s like 11 ounce, 11 ounce

Speaker 1  39:49

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around your crab cake Emporium around here. Yeah, and they’re as big as my head. Yeah, it’s crazy. And so nothing’s as

Lisa Mathews  39:55

big as your head. Ah, sorry to get that in you. Only kidding. You

Speaker 1  40:01

know I love you. No. Stop, stop. Oh no. I’ve had my feelings, hurt my feelings. It’s gotta be harder than that. I’m tougher than that. Lisa’s here, young Ron’s here. My thanks to them. I love the love riot, and I’m gonna love my lunch here, Coco, let’s go.