Bill Cole and Nestor discuss the craziest week of Baltimore sports history โ the Ravensโ epic collapse and the promise of a new Orioles ownership for Baltimore sports fans in David Rubenstein.
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SPEAKERS
Nestor J. Aparicio, Bill Cole
Nestor J. Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home, we are wn SD am 5070 Tas Baltimore and Baltimore positive hope youโre setting a spot on your dial for us as we are. Weโve moved into the official offseason of football but the on season of baseball and it took about 36 hours from us to go to the the bottom of the pit back on up to the oils are being sold to who Oh, Bill Cole joins us now he is cold roofing and Gordian energy. He fires up my mug and I keep my royal farms, coffee, and Iโm going to have to take Iโm taking one quick swig here.
Bill Cole 00:35
So you get a chance to Cleanse the palate.
Nestor J. Aparicio 00:38
And how are you? I mean, this is I havenโt talked to you since the Ravens lost and here we are. And then this Orioles thing happens. And I need you to settle me down because Luke and I went at it about I canโt talk about the future without talking about the past and how awful itโs been. Iโve had people say, Be careful what you wish for no, no, Iโve watched this for 30 years. Like unless these people are directly descended from, you know, Hades or Hitler. They canโt be any worse than what weโve had. Because this has been just a horrible 30 years of all I keep asking, oh, I keep thinking about is there. I might have a press box seat on March 28. Like I that would blow my mind, see my name on a press pass for showing up and having people say, hey, itโs nice to have you here. Weโre the new owners. Like, I will be glad I live that long that I didnโt kill myself 12 years ago when I was thinking about it. Yeah,
Bill Cole 01:31
I mean, I letโs not get ahead of ourselves here. I donโt know if thereโs a press pass in the future for you. But just
Nestor J. Aparicio 01:38
that would be legitimate.
Bill Cole 01:39
I donโt know. I just said letโs not get ahead of ourselves. Letโs
Nestor J. Aparicio 01:42
get into the Caucasian that I employ. You think maybe I could get one. Letโs just
Bill Cole 01:47
stay focused on weโre not given to Hispanic we know to be true. Like, what we know is Iโve spent Yeah, like you said, like 36 or 72 hours talking all of the raving fans in my life off the ledge, right. Like, I just, I thought it was a, you know, the potential Super Bowl Game two best teams and you know, hey, we werenโt ready mahomes theyโd been there before. You know, they, they got in our heads, we, you know, you fumble, you throw an interception, like, youโre not going to win, youโre not going to Super Bowl like that, like, the world is true. I felt like all season, we got the benefit of calls. And I donโt know when Sunday, it didnโt feel like we got the benefit of calls. But I also think Do you remember, I donโt know this could be 10 years ago, but like, the New England Patriots plan was they were going to pass interference on every play. Because they knew the referees werenโt going to throw the flag every single time. I do believe that the Chiefs have the tactics of weโre going to hold every single play, and theyโre not going to throw the flag every play. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 02:56
youโre gonna go with the officiating thing, too. Thatโs so weak. I thought youโre better
Bill Cole 03:00
fail. No, no, no, what Iโm saying is I just I got tired of
Nestor J. Aparicio 03:04
the crying. You know, itโs like, we lose, Iโm gonna yell at the officials. I mean, stop
Bill Cole 03:09
it start it started on the first drive in the first quarter. Right? And itโs just that the only part that makes me uneasy is that benefit of the doubt thing. And you, you know, you donโt know how Iโve watched the documentary about the NBA ref, who, you know, was a gambler and all that and he said they never told me who they wanted to win the game. But I short or short knew who was better for the league if they won the game. So if thatโs not subconsciously in your head, you know, whatever. No, Iโm not blaming the referees. I donโt have an issue with it. You fumbled and he threw an interception you do that you donโt win doesnโt matter that I would say thereโs a good chance somebody got fired because they played a video like right before one of the drives might have been in the beginning of the game I donโt remember exactly what it was and I Iโm not good enough where I can you went to the game is what youโre telling. Yeah, but I canโt get my camera phone out fast enough to like document it. At the end of the video. The last fan they showed is holding a get nasty sign in the stadium that was up on the Jumbotron. The last one it was like historical video of like the old days Iโm telling you, it was a you know highlight reel clip in the stadium before the game or like in between a quarter or during a timeout of I think it was like the 2000 You know what I mean? It was just like it was a highlight reel. And it was fans and the last fan is holding a good nasty scientists.
Nestor J. Aparicio 04:51
Hereโs whatโs amazing that you would even itโs some random you nobody brought this up. Nobody texted me from the stadium like nobody saw it. Youโre the only one thatโs told me about it. Because usually the internet, somebody will throw me something on Facebook and say, Hey, to get nasty side to shut up. There was a video and my wife would tell you this was a proud moment for me, right? We, we went to the Hall of Fame years ago, I mean, 20 years ago, and they were showing a film of a fan. It wasnโt a raving thing. It was the passion of the game de Johnโs was Sundar, it was an NFL films presentation that was at the Hall of Fame. When I took a bus trip long time ago. I mean, 2004 or five, six, whatever. And it was in the video. So maybe itโs the same piece of footage. You know, from that, that era. That was an NFL films piece. Itโs
Bill Cole 05:44
definitely old. And like, you know, the signs what you and I always joke about the different stuff that will
Nestor J. Aparicio 05:50
catch defense became Captain Defense, because he sat in my section and put my defense sign on his back. Thatโs how he became
Bill Cole 05:59
it. We enjoy talking about the different intersection points in life. And like I remember in when I was interning with you guys, like
Nestor J. Aparicio 06:09
signs out that I make
Bill Cole 06:11
when we went to like Carroll County mall or whatever that mall was out in like lessman Everybody
Nestor J. Aparicio 06:16
handed people whose names are on them like Haney Yeah, Haney never handed the sign out. But but you know, but I put their names on the sign so we could promote the business out here, you know, right.
Bill Cole 06:27
So so I donโt know anything about David Rubenstein, other than like, kind of wonโt be worse. Thatโs all I know, public what the public persona is. I ran the Kennedy
Nestor J. Aparicio 06:37
Center. So like, I know. And, by the way, heโs himself. You can go see him speak in a million different ways it billionaire you know, heโs not. Heโs not a recluse, you know, he,
Bill Cole 06:52
he openly acknowledges heโs from Baltimore. He brands himself as a patriot, meaning that he is very much invested in the patriotic anthems of our country. He wrote a great book. Does
Nestor J. Aparicio 07:14
that mean he voted for Trump? No, I donโt know. Because thatโs what that has been usurped the flag once Trump started humping the flag, like literally started making out with the flip. I mean, come on. Oh, you got this isnโt a mean he really he hugged the flag and gave a LeGarrette probably what he did to Jean Carol accepting cost of 83 million. But like when I hear patriot, that just means you voted for Trump lately that like that, that when I hear that word, I donโt hear anybody says Iโm a patriot. I voted for Joe Biden. You know, when they say Iโm a patriot, it means Iโm a Republican. Thatโs what it means.
Bill Cole 07:45
Yeah, thatโs, thatโs your emotional attachment. Oh, itโs not Thatโs me. Iโm fighting this country. Iโm fighting back for that word. Like no one gets shown that word. Right.
Nestor J. Aparicio 07:56
Correct. Itโs done that word? Well, but it was usurped. It was I
Bill Cole 08:00
donโt know. I think that
Nestor J. Aparicio 08:04
I hope I mean, Iโm a patriot, too.
Bill Cole 08:06
I did not write. My comment was not meant to be politically inflammatory. My comment was meant to mean that he puts great importance on historical, institutional, like, protections. So I think we have a potential new owner of like, cherishing the past, leaning into the future, like smart capitalist, you know what I mean? Like, like, but I donโt know, I mean, I think, right. Like, I donโt know, the other guy. I donโt even know how to say his last name. But
Nestor J. Aparicio 08:53
Eric Getty, I believe until, like, different, right? So
Bill Cole 08:57
I donโt know anything about him. To your point, like, I donโt know, I donโt really know if I have a criteria of like, how I want to behave. I mean, Iโm sure I could write it down. You know, we could think about it. And we could do it out and say, This is how I want my professional sports team owner to act. I canโt imagine that. Like, in my lifetime, much of that baseball owner behavior fits into the box of how Iโd like it to be, but I would say with this guy, I believe maybe we have a chance. So I donโt know. I definitely didnโt see it coming. Although it strategically make sense. I think, like if you can at least get the deal done with the state on some kind of level. Youโre increasing value, right? You Youโre throwing stuff in, like oh, yeah, I also got a pool in the back you know, like so. Well, thereโs $600 million
Nestor J. Aparicio 10:00
here for both of these guys, the ravens are going to build a gold plated addition to their stadium thatโs going to bloom of entertainment. And people are gonna go down there on Tuesday night when itโs 15 degrees in January, okay, Iโll I need an idea. And I keep saying this right. And this is where Iโm gonna be with these Rubenstein these guys, Iโm not gonna kiss their ass if they want to give me a press credential, Iโll go use it if they donโt, Iโll sit here and do what Iโve been doing all along. But whatโs the idea? The idea canโt be weโre gonna win baseball games, weโve done that the idea canโt be, well, the stadium is beautiful. We have that the idea canโt be with the harbours over there. And thereโs water, okay, that, like there needs to be an idea. And the idea is weโre gonna bring a band in, like, I donโt if the idea is great baseball, and letโs massage that and all the patriotism you talk about which really falls into the warm feelings for booth Powell and Brooks Robinson and Jim Palmer, and the civic pride in the team and the bird and the brand. I mean, all thatโs been run through the mud. I mean, thereโs really no, Iโm having a hard time after 30 years figuring out theyโre gonna bring your own theologically correct bird back for a while, I saw that third spring training. And I donโt know what that feeling is other than when my wife and I reach for my credit card, and I go down there that I have a feeling that thatโs a baseball team I want to root for not a team that has abandoned the city and treated the city like shit for 30 and me and my family. And everybody I know this isnโt people think itโs about me and Angeloโs. It really isnโt, itโs about how heโs treated everybody. This was about the night Mike Flanagan died. This this is about all of it. This was about being awful. This was about me and my, my employee being mistreated 10 weeks ago in Arlington, Texas, because they wanted us to be mistreated, that this is about them mistreating a lot of people. And people like me, Iโm not the only one with bad blood. Iโm just the only medium member thatโs been thrown out wasnโt paid $30,000.18 years ago when they owed it to me. So I have my own personal thing. But nobody feels great about the oils and going down there. If they did, they would have been going a long time ago. I mean, you sat here. Shout upon them most of the summer last year when I said you go to the games you like my girls donโt like baseball, they donโt even know the rules. How old are they? Well, theyโre not four. I mean, you havenโt taught them the rules. They donโt care the rules. They donโt want to go, whatโs going to make them want to go whatโs going to make them want to go when theyโre 24 and 34 year old women, when they have children, the way your mother wanted to bring you and your father and your grandfather in the cold family. And my last name is Aparicio my father, itโs all we did was baseball when it becomes a part of the community again, and the heartbeat of that community again. And it feels like itโs ours and not his or theirs. Thatโs the thing with the Angeles family. Itโs never Baltimoreโs team. How did he get Baltimore in the name by the time they decided to put Baltimore in the name it became a joke to people like me that fought on a radio station for 10 years about just putting Baltimore back on the Baltimore Orioles. Thatโs how crazy this was. And then this creep kid born on third thanks to triple SAS and everybody not investing any money not even living here. threatening the move the team without saying the teamโs gonna stay here and theyโre doing everything possible to embarrass the governor. He embarrassed the governor embarrassed the governor so bad the governor doesnโt speak to me anymore, because the governor doesnโt want to sit next to me and say you were canoodling? By the way. The mayor of Brandon Scott was still kissing Angeloโs his ass last night. Iโm like, I went back on Twitter, you have to kiss his ass anymore. Heโs gone. Youโd have to say what a great owner. He wasnโt a great owner. They were awful. People call it what it was. They were awful. Awful. And this guy canโt be any worse. I mean, he just canโt be and I hope heโs better hope heโs a good guy. hope theyโre good people. I hope I get back and I hope I want to buy tickets. People ask me my barometer, they should know that. Iโm not going to bullshit them. And more than that, when after 32 years of doing this, Iโve dedicated my life to getting the team fixed. Literally, I put my business, my reputation, my name, everything I have around getting the team fixed 18 years ago. And if it gets fixed, Iโll be the first guy to acknowledge itโs fixed and itโs good. But I need to see that itโs fixed. And the first part of getting a fix for me for my family for what Iโve done for 32 years promoting sports and having a Caucasian employee that they let in and wonโt allow me in. Itโs like the Hispanic guy in give me a press pass. Put my name give me a seat up in a corner in the back treat me like garbage. Iโm used to it. I dealt with Chad steel for 20 years, but let me in and let me do my job and be transparent, be accountable and have integrity.
Bill Cole 14:36
They have to have a name for that. You know, they havenโt have a name for that. I might be making a fool of myself by calling that gaslighting but like, I really donโt think Luke being a Caucasian and you being Hispanic has anything to do with be honest.
Nestor J. Aparicio 14:59
I want you to Pull it up. Because hereโs the hereโs the interesting thing. No, no, no, no, no stop. Iโm not gonna allow you to do this because I love to do this shit on the internet hold on last week. Last week they dedicated the press box that Jim Hanuman Jim Hanuman was a mentor. I work with Jim Andaman in 1986. It was the Orioles press boxes that Jim had him in press box. They put a picture of 25 people, including Luke, and I didnโt even know Luke was going down there. Apparently they had a luncheon. And they I donโt I havenโt even talked. I havenโt had a conversation with Luke about it. Heโs in the picture, though. Okay. So I think he went literally, I didnโt ask him. Every single person in the picture is a Caucasian, every single person in that press box is Caucasian. And I started to think about this. Itโs 2024. And youโre dedicating a press box in Baltimore, Maryland, and Baltimore, Maryland. Camden Yards with this game $600 million dollars. We all know that they have a black white issue that that stadium is 98%. Caucasian has been itโs the sport, race baiting, you do not talk to everybody in the media. Everybody in the media was a white guy, there was one woman in the picture, who is it works with a team. So everybody in that press box is a white guy. So letโs just start with that. So donโt say itโs done this or itโs not that Iโm gone. They should answer why it is then why am I not there? Why would it? Why would I own a radio station be on the air 24 hours a day have 100,000 people have sponsors like coal roofing who Thank you very
Bill Cole 16:35
much, because they because they can and because you undermine the brand and the perception that they wanted to put into the marketplace.
Nestor J. Aparicio 16:43
I didnโt know your mind anything. I asked questions, and they threw me out. Right? Well,
Bill Cole 16:47
if you ask the wrong questions, and they have all the power, theyโre the king, and you donโt get to come anymore.
Nestor J. Aparicio 16:52
Thatโs not transparency, accountability. Thatโs not the kind of organization that anyone should support. Anybody should no one should support that kind of organization.
Bill Cole 17:00
You turning your particular circumstances into a racial argument undermines the real racial issue that you brought up. And then hereโs a picture of the press box. And itโs all occasions thereโs no diversity in baseball, thereโs no there is not okay. Thatโs a real issue. I worry that by taking your particular circumstances, and making that a racial thing we grant,
Nestor J. Aparicio 17:31
why donโt they let me in Greg Bader, why donโt you let me in? Why donโt you let me in?
Bill Cole 17:38
Well, I understand that you canโt get the answers or that no way. Right.
Nestor J. Aparicio 17:42
I get it. So I bring up possibilities. Yeah,
Bill Cole 17:46
but we have to be careful that when we bring those possibilities up, weโre not actually taking the focus away from the real
Nestor J. Aparicio 17:53
issue. The real focus is they donโt they lie when they do. Thatโs the real answer. And listen, this is this is what weโre talking about chords. What Iโve dealt with for 18 years, professional sports.
Bill Cole 18:06
You know, when people were saying that baseball raised
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:09
email saying I was drunk in the press box, and thatโs why chats deal through. Really, really, is that what heโs telling you? Is that what theyโre telling you? Whoโs telling you that?
Bill Cole 18:17
Yeah, thatโs a lie. I donโt know. Youโd be that person. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:21
Nobodyโs ever seen me drunk. Literally. Nobodyโs ever seen you
Bill Cole 18:25
and you and I have hung out in Ocean City. Like if there was a time where we were thrown back. There was a time we were gonna throw back it would have been that we
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:33
werenโt you know, I was spear sponsored. Right? So the thing that would have killed this entity would have killed my career would have killed Bob Haney his career, Jeremy Cohn, Rob Lowe, just go through the list of all the people would have been would have been Milton Kent writing that I had a DUI in 1999 on Harford road coming back from della roses at three in the morning, that would have been the end of the radio station would have been the end of my career would have been, it would have been the end. So I donโt drink and drive.
Bill Cole 19:01
So the other comment about what you said before, right? Like,
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:10
they would have taken my press pass if I did that,
Bill Cole 19:12
right. One of the challenge. One of the challenges, when we talk about Angeloโs, is that outside of his handling of the baseball team, you know, Angeloโs and their family, and the money that they have poured back into the community has, you know, is a cherished and grateful, you know, scenario, so,
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:34
I want to meet those people for real.
Bill Cole 19:36
Yeah, well, you could we could do that. I mean, that could be part of the like, Hey, I think youโre doing uh, arenโt you doing a thing? Like youโre gonna say next week? Yeah. Okay. Well, thereโs gonna be a whole lot of potential people that you could ask, Hey, did the angel loose, you know, foundation or Did did you ever get any money from them? Like, youโre gonna ask that question? I
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:57
know, I know that I can find more people. If that had been stiffed and youโre talking to one, youโre talking to one, I did the work. They shook my hand and they didnโt pay the bill for $30,000. They didnโt pay $30,000 bill. And when I made that public, it was amazing how many air conditioning and refrigeration people came out and said, they donโt pay their bills, and they donโt pay them timely and you canโt find them. And then they sue you so that they donโt have to pay the bill that thatโs an Angeles family tradition. So that that I had a lot more of that than I ever had people saying, Mr. Angeloโs who knows me he wrote a check to me. No, no, I donโt I call bullshit all day on that bill Cole. I, I kept putting my name on the building, where I graduated from University of Baltimore, where I go down there and I see Angeloโs his name on the building there. i Thereโs no question. He had an honorarium to write a check there. But like, this notion that youโre gonna, youโre gonna soften my heart by telling me Mr. Angelos was charitable. Okay, fine. Iโll dedicate a whole week Iโll do the week after the Super Bowl. Two to 40 hours of people talking good about Peter angelos, if they sit here with integrity and do it seriously, they sit here with integrity and do it, I will hear it out. I took those phone calls. The phone lines were open to say good things about the Angelus family to this
Bill Cole 21:21
is why you and I can have these conversations because the life is very complicated. So nothing is simple. What is simple today is that we are potentially entering a transition where we get to talk about David Rubenstein instead of Peter Angelos. And Kent My sense is right, my sense is David Rubenstein, and this is a completely backless, baseless comment, because I really have no idea. But like, he strikes me as a person who will be able to get along with all of the parties that he needs to so whether itโs Brandon Scott, or Westmore, or other or other baseball owners, or the local media, or like Iโm not saying youโre gonna get unfettered access, Iโm not saying heโs gonna talk to you, but
Nestor J. Aparicio 22:12
I donโt care about any thereโs no need to run it. Iโm
Bill Cole 22:17
just saying, right? Iโm just saying I get it. But Iโm just saying he doesnโt appear to be a recluse. Like, he doesnโt hide from things. He seems very much overshot. He
Nestor J. Aparicio 22:27
bought this in the beginning. It didnโt want anybody to know who he is. Because apparently he does doesnโt he does. Heโs private. And heโs been running to the hills. He didnโt need to be in front of this because bellick was and Ray Lewis was and every lead was and then John Arbol was and you know, like, he didnโt need to be in the front of it. David Rubenstein needs to Stein I believe itโs nine needs to be in front of this to let people like me know, itโs okay to come back. I mean, really, itโs okay to come back. People like you. And I donโt mean to give you a hard time but you donโt go you donโt give them money. Why donโt you say to your daughters just but youโre you could you could you could corral your daughters into liking it to some degree. If youโd liked it more. If it was important to you. It might be important to them.
Bill Cole 23:10
I donโt disagree. Look, it doesnโt have to be important.
Nestor J. Aparicio 23:13
You it hasnโt been important to me in a long time. Because there hasnโt been important. We
Bill Cole 23:16
have to debate division conference, championship teams in the same year. Yet. It seems like we didnโt really accomplish anything. Right. Like, like for all the enjoyment. The Orioles were when it came time to like, get it done. We lost the Ravens. I think for the first three quarters of the sports, though, you know, it is but just I mean, when is that? Has that ever happened? Like I donโt know. History?
Nestor J. Aparicio 23:48
71 we want divisions around here. Both
Bill Cole 23:51
of them. Yeah. Well, so thatโs I mean, like thatโs pretty hard
Nestor J. Aparicio 23:55
to in baseball, because they were in the World Series. The only way to get there. Right.
Bill Cole 23:58
Weโre very, weโre very spoiled. And I think you know, we remain spoiled. Well, thatโs pretty awesome. Yeah, thatโs a pretty awesome year.
Nestor J. Aparicio 24:05
It was an incredible year in sports. And itโs gotten off to an incredible start if weโre in a different place for baseball than weโve been the last 32 years because itโs been, you know, as the and again, Iโve said this to you privately, I donโt love set it on the air. The real reason the Angeloโs family really hated me. I mean, hated me. Itโs because people will call and I was the complaint department. Like literally what when the station started in 1998 99 2000 2001. And then things got bad and the Ravens got good won the Super Bowl in 2002 3456. In those years, I was the only sports radio station I was on the air every day. I wasnโt syndicated anymore. I was back here every day. And the phone calls we begin Hey nasty. I was at the game last night and got a cold hot dog. And I saw a rat run across from me, you know, whatever it was right? Sure. The complaints they didnโt even have a complaint if you call the orals to complain, they would hold the middle finger up say, What do you ungrateful? We gave you baseball, we save the team. Bullshit hobby didnโt save. I love the video that Angela is made from self saying he saved the team for Baltimore. Like I had a guy tried to a guy from caves took me out to lunch one day trying to butter me up, buy me a salad. And he was telling me the team was moving to Cincinnati. I didnโt have the heart to tell him to Cincinnati already had another team. Like he had no like, there was such fiction around all of it. And everything they did was a lie. Baltimore wasnโt on the like the Nationals didnโt even exist yet. And Peter was fighting with them. The sky boxes it emptied out, and everybodyโs calling me on the radio and they canโt control bill and Parkville call in and say in a nasty whatโs wrong with the Orioles? You know, I hear to Sidney ponson guy ainโt no good, you know, like, and every day they would lose. And every day, weโd have to beat them up. And then I would go to try to talk to them. And they were jerks. They were complete. Arrogant, awful. Eric, the arrogance reminds me of Chad steel. I mean, thereโs just an arrogance involved of fu weโre the Orioles. Thatโs the way it always was. I mean, we used to say here on the air all the time, they their whole philosophy is fu when we win, youโll come back. That was how they ran the operation. When you win, youโll be begging us for playoffs, you better be nice to us, you only play off, youโll be calling me for playoff tickets. And thatโs how they handled everything. And thatโs when it really got sideways is when I became the complaint department for them. And they couldnโt clean it up. And they couldnโt answer it. And they didnโt have any integrity or competence to fix it. And, and I hope I donโt expect David Rubenstein to be I donโt know, I donโt know whether theyโre gonna win a World Series in the next 20 years or even care. I care that that I would be proud to put a hat on. And that comes from my heart dude. But like literally, the reason I donโt wear ravens stuff right now is thereโs nothing about that I should be proud of, of the way theyโve treated me my family. I know the truth. You can go refer the football team. I know the truth. I know what happens behind closed doors, Iโm privy to all of it too much, quite frankly. And I share that and for that Iโm a jerk for sharing truth. But the truth is, I was a complaint department for them 20 years ago, and they never handled the complaints and still havenโt handled the complaints. And to this day, whateverโs wrong. There is no wrong ask Greg Bader, heโll tell you how wonderful it is when theyโre losing 120 games. So theyโre not anymore. Theyโre winning. Football Teams winning. And now are they going to get people back? I mean, the football team spent the whole year with $10 tickets on game day. Iโm not making that up. Thatโs not me being a jerk. Thatโs empty seats. 1000s of empty seats for a team that was as good as it gets. And they they couldnโt sell tickets a month ago. You know, like so they they played a playoff game was 20 degrees and that they couldnโt give their tickets away. So I want to see it. Fiber. And again, the way I know it was vibrate the way you know, it was vibrant. The way the Ravens were in the 90s when you couldnโt get a ticket the way the Orioles were in the 90s when you couldnโt get a ticket. Thatโs when itโs booming. And thatโs why itโs booming. Itโs not a television thing, dude. Itโs meant to bring people out. Itโs why we just gave them 1.2 billion people was the stimulate downtown stimulate traffic stimulate the economy. And Iโll keep going back to the original thing now that Iโm done pitching David Rubenstein, whatโs the idea? Whatโs the whatโs going to whatโs going to make it full again, other than just winning because they are winning? Theyโre winning. Now Now what else are you going to do to make it full? Whatโs whatโs the value proposition?
Bill Cole 28:53
Well, weโre gonna, weโre gonna find out, right, weโre gonna find tell
Nestor J. Aparicio 28:56
me what you do. Because youโre up on roofs and like the weather gets this time of year like, take bad things happen with every snowstorm I thought of you two weeks ago, when there was 10 inches of snow on my roof.
Bill Cole 29:06
Weโre, you know, weโre just rooting for warmer weather. Youโre now gonna take care of your stuff, the repairs and preventative maintenance and that kind of stuffs always better now before the snow and rain and everything else. So no, and then, you know, a lot of the discussions around solar picking up. It certainly makes sense, right? If youโre thinking about doing your roof, you should at least know what that looks like
Nestor J. Aparicio 29:30
sunny now today, I wouldnโt have no electricity, you know, thatโs okay. Thatโs okay. You could teach him right. Itโll be alright. The teacher will teach well sorted out no calls here. Heโs cold roofing and Gordian. He has no idea why he came on. You knew today was gonna be chippy. You knew you were gonna push back and you knew we were totally
Bill Cole 29:48
good. Like, I just I mean, it was crazy. I definitely didnโt see the oil thing common. And
Nestor J. Aparicio 29:55
I mean, I saw it but Iโm not ready for it. You know what I mean? Like you see it but youโre not
Bill Cole 30:01
I didnโt know that David Rubenstein was trying to buy a team or was in that discussion. I mean, I think thatโs phenomenally interesting. Like,
Nestor J. Aparicio 30:09
Raskin told me this in September, like literally, and thatโs why on my Facebook, he wrote I told you
Bill Cole 30:17
so. Nice. Thatโs great. Yeah, thatโs great. All right.
Nestor J. Aparicio 30:22
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