Putting The Y into your summer fun plan

We could all use a summer camp and a little more exercise and John Hoey of The Y of Central Maryland returns, joining Nestor at Pizza John’s in Essex on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour with some goals for neighborhood folks to see what their local center is doing to stay relevant and helpful in communities throughout the region.

John Hoey, CEO of the Y in Central Maryland, discussed the organization’s commitment to community service and the challenges faced due to federal funding cuts. The Y serves over 300,000 people, including Head Start programs for children from birth to age four, and before and after school enrichment programs. Hoey clarified that the Y is not closing its pools in Dundalk and Randallstown; instead, management is being handed back to Baltimore County. The Y also operates summer camps, offering various activities for children. Hoey emphasized the need for community support and the importance of the Y’s multi-generational services.

• [ ] Hand over management of the Randallstown and Dundalk pool facilities back to Baltimore County and provide the county time to determine ongoing operations (publicly announced transition of management).
• [ ] Schedule and host the next broadcast/show at the Towson (Oracio) YMCA facility as the agreed next location for the program.
• [ ] Continue coordinating with Baltimore County to determine operational plans and capital needs for the Randallstown and Dundalk buildings during the transition period.
• [ ] Promote and facilitate the ‘Send a Kid to Camp’ donation drive (encourage donations and provide donation information on ymaryland.org) to support sending children to YMCA camps.

John Hoey’s Role and Commitment to the Y

• Nestor Aparicio introduces John Hoey, CEO of the Y in Central Maryland, and discusses his long-term commitment to the organization.
• John Hoey shares his background, mentioning his 30-year tenure and his initial role as a banker.
• Nestor Aparicio highlights John’s dedication to serving the community, especially in areas with challenges.
• John Hoey explains the Y’s mission and its impact on various communities, emphasizing its role as a health club and community resource.

Clarifying Misconceptions About the Y

• Nestor Aparicio addresses recent headlines about the Y, particularly regarding the closure of pools in Dundalk and Randallstown.
• John Hoey clarifies that the pools are not closing; instead, the Y is handing management back to Baltimore County.
• John explains the challenges of running the pools and the need for more capital investment to provide a full range of Y services.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss the unique needs of different communities and how the Y tailors its services accordingly.

The Y’s Broader Community Impact

• John Hoey elaborates on the Y’s role in providing early childhood education through Head Start programs.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss the importance of Head Start in providing high-quality early childhood education and family services.
• John explains the Y’s involvement in before and after school enrichment programs, serving children from birth to age four.
• Nestor Aparicio shares a personal anecdote about the importance of medical services and the challenges faced by those without insurance.

Challenges and Future Plans for the Y

• John Hoey discusses the impact of federal funding cuts on the Y’s programs, including Head Start and out-of-school time programs.
• Nestor Aparicio and John highlight the bipartisan support for these programs and their importance for vulnerable communities.
• John emphasizes the need for community support and the Y’s efforts to adapt to changing funding environments.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss the Y’s ongoing initiatives and the importance of community involvement in maintaining the organization’s mission.

The Y’s Summer Camp Programs

• John Hoey introduces the Y’s summer camp programs, which include day camps and overnight camps.
• Nestor Aparicio shares his own experiences with summer camps and the importance of providing children with enriching experiences.
• John explains the various activities and benefits of the Y’s summer camps, emphasizing the goal of making campers happy and tired.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss the different types of camps available, including indoor and outdoor options, and the importance of providing a safe and engaging environment for children.

Community Engagement and Support

• Nestor Aparicio encourages listeners to get involved with the Y by joining local branches and supporting programs like Head Start and summer camps.
• John Hoey highlights the Y’s commitment to serving over 300,000 people in Central Maryland and the importance of community support.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss the Y’s role in providing a safety net for families and individuals in need.
• John emphasizes the Y’s mission to support all generations and the importance of community engagement in achieving the organization’s goals.

Personal Reflections and Future Plans

• Nestor Aparicio and John share personal anecdotes about their experiences with the Y and the impact of the organization on their lives.
• John reflects on his time growing up in Saratoga, New York, and his love for horse racing and the racetrack.
• Nestor Aparicio and John discuss their shared passion for community service and the importance of supporting local organizations.
• John expresses his optimism for the future and the Y’s continued efforts to make a positive impact on the community.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

YMCA, community service, summer camps, Head Start, Baltimore County, health and fitness, early childhood education, after school programs, community health workers, federal funding cuts, volunteer opportunities, family services, youth engagement, recreational activities, nonprofit support.

SPEAKERS

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John Hoey, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 tasks in Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive, positively here at Pizza John’s, because I have a professional with me, I’ve moved the pizza away from us, even though I did eat two slices during the segment with Nick Stewart, I am now angering my partners at GBMC because I’m eating full cheese pizza, and I have to cut down and make lifestyle changes. I might need more time at the Y. I have the Maryland treasures scratch offs here all four variety. We have crabs and mollusks. We have the Bay Bridge. We have acid tea courses and Ocean City Boardwalk. Lots of folks are picking that because it’s orange. My friends at GBMC put me out on the road with walking a mile in their shoes. They’re also trying to make me healthier. I’m going to be educating people, John, I got bad news today about me eating too many things that I love, so I got to be really careful with pizza. John’s and I’m going to get the skinny salad. I’m going to get the oil and vinegar.

John Hoey  01:01

Over time you grow to love that stuff.

Nestor Aparicio  01:03

Now, I woke up this morning thinking like how he’s coming out from the why we get french fries and gravy. And I can’t, I can’t even share that with you today, so

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John Hoey  01:13

I don’t eat that.

Nestor Aparicio  01:14

Hey man, good to see you. John, always here. He is CEO present. CEO right now, yeah, of all things, the why of Central Maryland and so I go places now is in Minnesota, at Springsteen was downtown. I look up, it’s just giant why in the corner. I mean, wise are everywhere.

John Hoey  01:35

I’ve been to that one, the one in downtown,

Nestor Aparicio  01:37

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yeah,

John Hoey  01:38

Minneapolis, yeah. It’s a great WHY. Actually, I was in a I went to a meeting there about a year ago, and a good friend of mine runs the, it’s called the YMCA of the North. Pretty bold. They call it the north, and

Nestor Aparicio  01:54

they

Nestor Aparicio  01:54

call everything that they’re all their coffee, everything’s true north, yeah,

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John Hoey  01:58

so

Nestor Aparicio  01:59

it’s cold as hell. I know it was, No, I knew I was North.

John Hoey  02:01

That’s a great why the building of the day you’re talking about, and the why, as an organization, there is a great, really, really, one of the bigger wise in the country. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  02:11

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let’s start with you, because I always do this memorial stadium 33rd Street. Why you? Yeah, not an Oriole fan, but it’s there, your second choice,

John Hoey  02:22

Oriole supporter. How’s that?

Nestor Aparicio  02:24

All right, good enough. But he comes from parts otherwise. Who came here and you made a light. You’ve been here 30 years. How many years? About

John Hoey  02:33

30 years

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Nestor Aparicio  02:34

you came here as a banker.

John Hoey  02:36

Came here when I was four,

Nestor Aparicio  02:37

and this why thing happened. And every time I speak to you, you sort of pour out of you and ooze out of you that, like, you could have just been banking, but you wanted to, like, serve people, yeah, and this became a calling for you to and especially in an area where we have challenges here, we have young people, we have old people, we have people that need to get out and do more, including me, apparently, according to my eight my blood count yesterday, it’s all wise markets false, but nonetheless, for you, I mean, you’ve made a life here, and I see you in the news. I’m going to give you an opportunity to talk about what’s going on with the why? Because you would refute some of the headlines we’ve seen lately with just some facts. So Have at it, man.

John Hoey  03:20

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All right. Well, where do you want to start? What have you read that I could respond,

Nestor Aparicio  03:23

oh, here we go. Well, I what you click on and what you find is usually a paywall, if you’re clicking on anything, with the ban on the song.

John Hoey  03:31

So you kind

Nestor Aparicio  03:32

of, so I’m sort of like, well, I wonder what Bal has to say about or I don’t even do any of that. You know, it’s funny. You’d ask me, as a news guy, where I get my news, I probably like everybody else in finding headlines that come to me and how the algorithm treats me like it treats everyone else. You know, I would just say this, I broadcast from the swim facility,

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John Hoey  03:54

yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  03:54

in Randallstown. I know that was in the news recently in some way, as though it’s being shuttered drain the pool. People be swimming up down Reisterstown Road. You’re here to tell me that is not the case.

John Hoey  04:07

That is not the case. Tell

Nestor Aparicio  04:08

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me what’s

Nestor Aparicio  04:09

going on. Like, really? I mean, I read it, and I think there’s some political action. I saw Julian was with me at the pool.

John Hoey  04:17

Yeah, no, we recently announced that we’re going to hand the management of those pools back to the county. So the both the pool in Dundalk and Reynolds town are owned by Baltimore County, and

Nestor Aparicio  04:30

they made that clear when I was sitting

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John Hoey  04:32

there. Yeah, they hired us many years ago to run them. We, you know, so we’re partners with Baltimore County, so you’re not going to hear me say negative things about it. But you know, over time, we signed an agreement, a lease, we fulfilled that with them. But over time, you know, the we it’s funny. Every day people walk into both of those build. Things and say, well, where’s the rest of the why? Right? Because when people walk into something and there’s a why logo on it, yeah, they may walk in with the purpose of swimming, but they want a full why. They want everything else that we offer, both from a facilities and a programmatic standpoint, and we’re not, we haven’t been able to do that in either place.

Nestor Aparicio  05:18

You’ve told me all along your why is a little different in that you’ve taken on all sorts of educational there’s just a lot the Village People song, I’m gonna work out and I’m gonna whatever the song I’m trying to think of what all, whatever that would be, of the why, being a health club or a health facility or a community resource, the real truth of the beauty of the why, I think, is they’re all really different, right? Yeah. And they’re all sort of kind of tailored to the community they’re in, because that’s who they’re serving. The Y in Dundalk won’t be the same as the one in Timonium, because they’re different communities, right?

John Hoey  05:54

Yeah. And you know, it’s people use the term y in a lot of ways. Why? Sometimes it refers to a building, right? And so we call them y Family Centers, because, you know, there are hubs of Healthy Communities focus mostly on families, seniors, kids,

Nestor Aparicio  06:12

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but

Nestor Aparicio  06:12

not necessarily, working out necessarily,

John Hoey  06:15

that’s part of a larger set of activities there. And in fact, the Y invented this whole category, you know, 150 plus years ago,

Nestor Aparicio  06:24

of a health club,

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John Hoey  06:25

not of a health club, of organized recreation people recreating together. That whole concept started at the Y.

Nestor Aparicio  06:35

I did not know that.

John Hoey  06:36

Yeah, so, and you walk into a y today, and yeah, you’re going to see a lot of health and fitness activities and equipment and more great programs. But

Nestor Aparicio  06:49

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those were missing from the Randalls down in Dundalk

John Hoey  06:52

local. We weren’t able to do any of those there. And so when people you know, here and across the country, when people walk into a y, what they, you know, they see that y logo, and they walk in, they want to see all of those things, all of those programs. That’s what they’ve come to expect, and rightfully so. And I

Nestor Aparicio  07:15

buy a y membership, and I’m getting an x instead of a Y, right,

John Hoey  07:19

right? You’re getting, you know, you don’t want to get just a little piece of it. You want the whole thing, right? And it’s, you know, it’s like you go out to dinner and they only give you the salad, and, in your case, with the vinaigrette, so they but there’s no entree.

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Nestor Aparicio  07:37

I want the pepper Palmer show.

John Hoey  07:39

And I do, you know it’s really cool, those really nice brussels sprouts that they make now, there’s nothing

Nestor Aparicio  07:44

they fry that.

John Hoey  07:46

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Well, they should

Nestor Aparicio  07:46

have that, right? I mean, I gotta go back to boil, yeah? But I understand what

John Hoey  07:50

you’re saying. But people expect that, and, well, they should. And so we’ve been working long time with the county really trying to see if we can make that happen. Randallstown, you were there. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  08:00

you told me Randallstown, when we were sitting there, it was sort of experimental and different, you know, like a very different kind of concept for Randallstown, yeah. And I think you even said to me, they came to us and said, we’ve got this pool. We don’t know what to do with it. We can’t manage it, right? I mean, look, look, the city in the pools have been controversial going back to Dan roderick’s Show in 1966 if you didn’t see it, had references to the Patterson Park pool, like, literally, pools and communities. I saw our friends at the banner do a piece about pool clubs out in the County last year too. So, like, I’ve never thought of going to a pool club, but to me, what you were doing in Randallstown when I was there, it felt like people getting in shape, not people swimming like we used to swim down here, and then at porters down here at Rocky Point. You know,

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John Hoey  08:54

it’s, you know, swimming is, well, look, if you look at a place like Randallstown and Dundalk, we’ll serve everyone that we’re teaching kids how to swim. There you have seniors coming for water aerobics to stay fit and active. And then, as you notice, you know, when they’re done, they sit, they sit in the lobby, and they solve all the world’s problems.

Nestor Aparicio  09:15

People are having a pretty

Nestor Aparicio  09:16

good

John Hoey  09:16

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time, which is wonderful. We want them to do that. And yeah, there are people there swimming laps. It’s a wide variety of things that people are doing. But at the end of the day in randlestown, you know, the there’s a massive rec center on the other side of the wall. We had tried for years to try to, you know, see if we can do other programming. It didn’t work out in Dundalk. We had been running the pool there. That building, and Dundalk was was originally built as why in probably, I think probably in the 50s, don’t

Nestor Aparicio  09:54

I’ve been at that? Why I’ve been in that pool

John Hoey  09:57

around the 50s? You think

Nestor Aparicio  09:58

it’s

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Nestor Aparicio  09:59

old town done.

Nestor Aparicio  10:00

Oh yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  10:00

right across from what I would call the police station. You’d have to be a real young, old timer to remember that still looks like a police station on the front

John Hoey  10:07

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and but it used to be a y and there’s gym there, and there’s all this other space. The county was using that building for other things, which is fine, it’s their building. They own it. And we had, again, wanted to do more there, but you

Nestor Aparicio  10:23

were just literally operating.

John Hoey  10:24

We’re just, yeah, we had a

Nestor Aparicio  10:25

putting your name, your brand, make it

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John Hoey  10:29

and

Nestor Aparicio  10:29

die, oriented, yes, yes.

John Hoey  10:32

So in Dundalk, the, you know, the unfortunately, the pool there had a an issue with it, and during covid, it was closed, and the county, you know, the county, went about repairing it. Unfortunately, it took five years, so we couldn’t reopen it for another five years. So we lost a lot of momentum there. But at the end of the day, look, Baltimore County, they’re our partners. We all we, you know, we had a good long conversations with them about how to move forward. We’re in a world where, you know, everyone is resource constrained, right? So for those, for both of those pools and those buildings, there needs to be more capital investment. And, you know, there’s only so much money to go around, whether it’s at the county or anywhere.

Nestor Aparicio  11:24

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Oh, and I talked about Trump taking over and like cuts that were made federally to things like Head Start. That when I heard Head Start, I think of you, because you and I have talked about it more than I’ve talked to anybody else about it. Literally, three and four year old kids here, right? Like the most important thing we should as a society be putting ourselves into, this was a space that you entered because a lot of other entities weren’t entering, and civic institutions and counties couldn’t provide pre K, literally, right?

John Hoey  11:57

And it’s and

Nestor Aparicio  11:58

why wouldn’t John, but as the why, we’ll take it on,

John Hoey  12:01

and it’s right. I think it’s better done by entities like ours that can be, can create, can have expertise in it, and can make it part of a larger whole, which in it for us, Head Start is part of a larger whole of a wider range of Family and Youth Services.

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Nestor Aparicio  12:20

And fix that up. And when they’re eight years old or 12 years old or 15 year olds, they’ll still be at the Y still, and they’ll still be in the neighborhood, and they’ll be supporting

John Hoey  12:28

and so unfortunately, you know, the like I was talking about, that there isn’t the capital available to to improve either one of those buildings or facilities to the point that it needs to be for us to for it to really be a full why? And that’s no one’s fault. There’s no it’s no one’s you know, it’s like, I guess sometimes in the media, we want everything to be you’re wrong, you’re right. Who’s at fault? Who’s wearing the black hat? Who’s wearing the white hat? There’s no black hat or white hat in that story, there’s just

Nestor Aparicio  13:02

always so much money. There’s

John Hoey  13:04

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two partners trying to work its way out. And we said, you know, it’s probably best if we exited. We gave we we agreed to go longer than the lease went, just because it’s the right thing to do. So Baltimore County can figure out how they want to operate it moving forward, neither is closing. Those headlines were wrong. They’re not closing. So

Nestor Aparicio  13:28

they’re

Nestor Aparicio  13:28

staying open.

John Hoey  13:29

They’re going to stay open. The county will operate them how they’re going to do that. They’re working out. They’re working that out. We’re giving them time to work it out. So

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Nestor Aparicio  13:38

so they can put another name on the door and say Baltimore County, and have it

Nestor Aparicio  13:42

be

Nestor Aparicio  13:42

functional,

John Hoey  13:43

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yeah, so,

Nestor Aparicio  13:43

but not a why?

John Hoey  13:44

Correct,

Nestor Aparicio  13:45

correct. So

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John Hoey  13:45

that’s what’s happening. And is it unfortunate? Yes. I mean, we love both of those communities. We love being in those communities. We do other things in those communities. Head Start being one of them already. So it’s not like we’re exiting the communities completely. But, you know, look deep down, I’m an optimist, and maybe some point in the future, we’ll come back together and figure it out, and maybe, you know, and that would be awesome, and, if not, fine. But I mean, where

Nestor Aparicio  14:18

else you operating in the county? Because we’re talking we spend all this time talking about which we’re not doing. You’re still all over the place, right?

John Hoey  14:24

Still all over the county. We we operate the county’s Head Start program. So that’s all over the county, right? So you know, bunch of sites all over the county. We have,

Nestor Aparicio  14:33

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what is Head Start, by the way, just so people don’t know,

John Hoey  14:35

Head Start is a federally funded program that serves children, really from birth to four, and provides both a set of early childhood, preschool like programming for children, but also a range of Family Services. And it’s for families with children who are families who are at or. Under the federal poverty level, so that they have access to high quality early childhood education as well as a set of services for families with young children, which would include things like dental services and, you know, eye exams and things that, candidly, Nestor, most people take for granted that they can provide their kids. But if you’re, if your work, if you live at a certain income level and below, those things are tough.

Nestor Aparicio  15:27

By the way, can I just give a public service to GBMC? I went to give blood yesterday morning, and I hate this more than you know. It’s a needle. I don’t you know, my wife’s diabetic. She sticks herself like, she just all the time pizza. John, boom, you know, like, literally, like, literally, has to start shooting up at the table, you know, like, and I’ve watched this for 23 years, and I’m such a sissy, you know. And the doctor said we’re gonna get some labs, and I made a science joke. She didn’t find it funny. I didn’t find the email I got sworn to funny

Nestor Aparicio  15:56

either.

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Nestor Aparicio  15:57

And I wanted to give blood, and I’m sitting there, and they put the tourniquet on, and I’m like, Oh, this sucks. And I swear to you, at that moment, I thought, man, they’re telling me whether I’m healthy or not, I’ve got insurance for this. Yeah, how much would all of this cost me if you didn’t,

Nestor Aparicio  16:12

if I

Nestor Aparicio  16:12

didn’t have insurance? You know what I mean? So this is a privilege that in the modern world sticking the needle in me, and I’m, like, privileged to be able to know whether a lot of people couldn’t afford to get this needle right now and find for distressing. And due to my the magnet magnanimous nature of the Verizon Corporation, my wife’s insurance and our Blue Cross, and like all of that, I have that there are a lot of people that would like to know that they’re healthy or not, or wouldn’t mind taking the needle if it the bill didn’t come to them right, that they don’t get the opportunity to do this. So medical is something I guess I take for granted. I talk a lot about GBMC.

John Hoey  16:52

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By the way, my twin daughters were born at GBMC, so I always that’s

Nestor Aparicio  16:56

how they turned out so good.

John Hoey  16:57

I always have a soft spot for GB but I

Nestor Aparicio  16:59

guess my point is there are basic things, people listening in the car, driving around in your car. A lot of people don’t have a car. A lot of people don’t have things and and the why helps those families, right? Why is a safety net for those people?

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John Hoey  17:11

So it starts serves those so. So you’re asking me, what else do we do in Baltimore County, as we sit here in Baltimore County, the so we, I mentioned Head Start. We have also have before and after school enrichment programs in several schools around the county. So those are programs where pub in public schools, where parents drop their kids off maybe early in the morning because they got to get to work or and they certainly, since most people don’t, don’t leave work, at 245 with schools close. We run an after school program in those schools, so we call that before and after school. It’s

Nestor Aparicio  17:47

not a small thing. This

John Hoey  17:48

is a very big thing. I mean, your parent, I’m a parent. Elizabeth’s a parent. I mean, that’s the kind of stuff we you know, we have to have in our families, in our society to make things work. And we want our kids to not just be we want them to be safe, cared for, but we also want them to be engaged in stuff that’s positive. So in those programs, we’re doing things that you know they don’t do during the school day, you know. And whether that’s different kind of arts and crafts or sports or other things that you know aren’t necessarily in the curriculum, but we find, and we hear from a lot of parents, hey, the only reason my kid goes to school is because of your the Y program that you know she goes to right after school,

Nestor Aparicio  18:34

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relationships and meeting people, yeah, and meeting people you interact with at the youngest age. Now for me, it was kindergarten, right? And the kids in the neighborhood, but, you know, we didn’t have a resource like that, right, especially when I was younger. Meet the kids in the alley. If you didn’t meet them, that’s the only people you met, literally, right?

John Hoey  18:52

Yeah. I mean, I just still

Nestor Aparicio  18:53

friends with the bill use family.

John Hoey  18:54

I just walked home to, you know, or, you know, when found some friends and played baseball or something, you know. But those were more innocent times. John

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Nestor Aparicio  19:03

always here. We’re here at Pizza. John’s all courtesy of our friends at the Maryland lottery, GBMC stuck me with a needle, making me order low fat pizza out here, no french fries and gravy for me. Also our friends at foreign and Dermer. They’re the comfort guys, HVAC, AC. I hope it warms up a little bit, but not too much. When I get Orioles tickets, make sure you keep him comfortable. 410, 367777, what do you I haven’t had you on in a while, man, like, what are you most proud of? Why lately? I mean, I I half kid you as my friend and whatever about getting beaten up in the media about these different things. But like, for me and you, like, what? What are you standing on? Last time I talked to you, I think was federal cuts and stuff like this. They’re trying to take things away from you, right, right? But, I mean, you’re still doing a lot of good things. Yeah, we’ll get you out of bed every morning.

John Hoey  19:46

Man, wow, we’re doing so much good stuff. I mean, the Federal Environment is just, it is what it is. You know, there’s, I always try to focus on things that i i Or what’s

Nestor Aparicio  19:57

hurt the most, because, I mean, money’s gone away. What? What is something that you’re like, that that’s not good. We got to get that back.

John Hoey  20:05

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Well, we haven’t lost stuff, but the things are being cut, or things like, well, we’ll talk. We’ll start with Head Start. I mean, it’s being flat, funded year over year. So what that means is,

Nestor Aparicio  20:18

I’ve seen gas prices where we got some inflation, right? Yeah?

John Hoey  20:22

Like, it’s hard to give people increases when the funding at when we’re asked to serve the same number of kids. And, you know, obviously we want to, we’re we want to pay people more. So we’ve got to, when that happens, we got to restructure and find ways, because we’re going to give people increases, right? We’re not going to not give people increases. So it just makes it harder and harder to figure out how to deliver these programs. So Head Start is an example the you know, the most recent budget presented out of the White House cuts the block grant that funds all of our out of school time program, programming in Baltimore City. So all the programming we do that, you know, in elementary, middle and high schools in Baltimore City, and we’re in 29 of those

Nestor Aparicio  21:20

after school. Primarily,

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John Hoey  21:22

it’s after school, it’s summer programming.

Nestor Aparicio  21:25

So

John Hoey  21:26

all you know the you know, all those times when kids are most vulnerable, right? So hopefully, you know the budget process is not just, you know, by Fiat from the President. Hopefully that gets figured out. Those programs don’t get cut. But the the but the budget released by the White House cut all that out. It cut out all the community health work that we do. So we do a lot of work, community health work. We have community health workers across the several what is community

Nestor Aparicio  22:03

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health? Define that for me.

John Hoey  22:05

So community health workers are people who work with people in the community who may not have health insurance, who need to navigate either the health care system they are struggling to find you know, they’re food insecure. They don’t know there’s

Nestor Aparicio  22:25

somebody, it’s a member of the Y that comes in and gets counsel. They

John Hoey  22:29

may be members, or some of them are not okay. So they’re, you know, their resources in those communities. So they, let’s say they don’t know how to access SNAP benefits, right, which provide food. So these people are, think of them as navigators, sure, helping people find, get access to the services that are out there, and to, you know, connect them. I’m an

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Nestor Aparicio  22:54

old Mr. Rogers guy, find the helpers

John Hoey  22:56

that find the helpers, right? And then other things that they do, like, you know, the University of Maryland funds memberships for for people who have are at high risk from a health standpoint, in several of our Whys they pay their memberships. Why? Because those folks, they want those folks to be in a in a healthy environment,

Nestor Aparicio  23:19

to be healthier than just take

John Hoey  23:20

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care. Oh, it’s more expensive on the back end than it is on the front.

Nestor Aparicio  23:24

They told me I gave blood yesterday. That’s what I’m trying to, you know? So

John Hoey  23:27

our community health workers are, you know, they’re out there finding Reese, you know, finding folks who will help fund things like that. So these, they’re very they’re very creative folks. They’re trying to figure out how to help people who really are falling between the cracks and it’s affecting their health, whether that’s their physical or mental health. So all that funding to pay those people, and some of the resources that they access in the in the budget that was just released by the White House, that’s all wiped out now, again, Ben, I’ve lived long enough and I’ve been in this job long enough to know

Nestor Aparicio  24:08

how many years

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John Hoey  24:09

this, in a couple months, I’ll be hitting my 20th anniversary, all

Nestor Aparicio  24:13

right, 20 years run away. So you this is your fifth president or something like that, right? Yeah. I mean all sorts of things,

John Hoey  24:18

right? Fourth, yeah, let alone

Nestor Aparicio  24:19

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county executives and governors and mayors and all that,

Nestor Aparicio  24:22

right?

John Hoey  24:22

A lot of those

Nestor Aparicio  24:22

red, blue, purple, left, right, east, west, all of that. Right? You got to try to figure out how

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John Hoey  24:27

to make it work. Got to be nimble. So, you know, the we’ll see what happens ultimately. The, you know, the good news is that, generally speaking, most of what we do, most of these and, you know, there’s other federal funding that we rely on. And typically what happens, it’s funding that comes from the government, federal government, to the state, and then it’s dispersed through the state, okay, but it’s, it starts at the federal level. You know, most of those programs all. Have typically had bipartisan support. You know what’s interesting? We talk about Head Start. People may think it’s a, you know, one party versus the other. For a lot of rural America, Head Start is the only early childhood opportunity in those communities, there are no preschool

Nestor Aparicio  25:22

counties right here in Maryland,

John Hoey  25:24

in Maryland, across the country, in some of

Nestor Aparicio  25:28

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the cornbread on from over the eastern shore, cornbread on and because he’s gonna have to come on and talk about that, because he’s in charge of the rural counties for Wes Moore, my favorite Republican and and Raven fan and Oriole fan. But I’ll get cornbread on to talk about that, because that because that is that’s a fascinating thing, because he is involved in those rural counties that to say, like, you take, you take Head Start away, you take these programs away. You think you’re doing something to cities. You’re doing something to everyone.

John Hoey  25:55

Yeah, and that’s why, again, a lot of these programs have, most of these programs do have bipartisan support, because, you know, you’re affecting your voters. If you take those away, there’s no

Nestor Aparicio  26:07

question about that. But

John Hoey  26:08

and so, you know, my view is, we make these things partisan. They’re not partisan. You ask people, I don’t care what your party is like, do we want kids to be safe and engaged after school and in the summer, when they’re most vulnerable. Do we think that’s important as a society? I would say 90% of people would say yes. Do we think all kids, particularly the kids from from poorer families should have access to high quality early childhood experiences. I think most people would say that’s a great idea, because you know what happens when they don’t they’re not ready for kindergarten, and they start kindergarten behind, and they never catch up, and then, you know, a lot of bad stuff happens. So

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Nestor Aparicio  27:01

Head Start, I shouldn’t have to explain what it is, right? That speaks for itself.

John Hoey  27:05

It’s a good name.

Nestor Aparicio  27:06

It’s great. Absolutely,

John Hoey  27:07

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whoever was in charge of the branding there did a great job. I think that was introduced during the Great Society and Lyndon Johnson’s presidency,

Nestor Aparicio  27:17

okay,

John Hoey  27:17

during the time when the Civil Rights Act was passed and all that stuff. Head Start was part of that wave of legislation

Nestor Aparicio  27:24

making better little people.

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John Hoey  27:26

Yes, hopefully

Nestor Aparicio  27:26

they’ll

Nestor Aparicio  27:27

drive better when they get to be big people on the freeway. John, how he’s here for the Y just sort of last thing exit for you. What’s give me some good stuff going on here, some stuff I last time I saw you, I think was turkey trot maybe.

John Hoey  27:40

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Yeah, we’ve seen you before. You saw the throngs there. I think you were shocked.

Nestor Aparicio  27:45

You know what? I had you on right after that at Christmas time over gertrudes, because that morning you were, like, involved in all of this circus going on. There’s 3800 people running around town. The part that I remember was I dropped my wife off the airport on Thanksgiving morning, I came back to Towson, and I’m like, I told Hoey I was gonna walk for the Y he probably needs me there. Better be looking for me. It’ll be a lot of people there. He says there’ll be a lot of people. I’m thinking, all right, there’ll be a lot of people there. And I pulled up in the old Towson. It was a little chilly that morning, seven, 715 in the morning, whatever it was, and I had gloves, and I had a thing, and I had a little thermos of coffee, and it was nice and just perfect for me. And I went to park the car, and I just saw people walking like they were going to, like a, like a big concert, or, like a football game. It was totally it was like people were just walking. And I was on a corner as a corner house, and everybody was out doing either the Bloody Mary or the orange. It was, you know, this was a spirited thanks. They were doing more than bacon to Turkey that morning, but they all had funny outfits. Yeah, they had leg warmers, funny hats,

John Hoey  28:53

Turkey hats.

Nestor Aparicio  28:54

They had special drinking mugs that indicated whether they were Calvert all or Loyola to some degree. And they were playing the Rocky theme full blast on the corner

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John Hoey  29:04

right to

Nestor Aparicio  29:04

try to inspire me in four layers of clothing with a cup of coffee to go running with these to trot. I didn’t try. I prodded. I plotted on a horse racing form of Trotter, than a Trotter at that point, but I was more of a

John Hoey  29:20

mutter.

Nestor Aparicio  29:21

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Well, not only was I blown away that I saw you in the morning and you’re blowing a whistle, and I saw the drone flying through, and people were like, NBC, Sunday night, football’s here, and I’m thinking, Well, you know, maybe they’ll make the Y famous or whatever. They put you right in the lead.

John Hoey  29:37

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  29:37

on Thanksgiving, I’m home eating my I got my turkey. We didn’t make a turkey, but I, if I told you about my turkey on Thanksgiving, you it would be, it would be like a, it would be like a lonely hearts. I was home, but I was watching the Raven game. You know, I was home and I was, I was eating turkey out of a tray. I wasn’t really eating a whole, not the turkey. At the pilgrims. This is more like the turkey. The people stopped by subway, got, you know, take out Turkey. But I was sitting there and you showed up and you, I mean, this was national TV, all of that. But more than that, I think it captured like, Oh, my God, that’s like an event. Like, had I not gone there that morning, I’d be like, how many people were there? But I saw it with my own eyes.

John Hoey  30:21

So, yeah, right, that was, you

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Nestor Aparicio  30:22

don’t need my help with the turkey trot. There’s plenty of people turkey

John Hoey  30:26

trot, but we, you know, we need your help and everyone’s help to make the Y work. I mean, people don’t realize it doesn’t work without the community support. People. People

Nestor Aparicio  30:35

were enthusiastic that morning,

John Hoey  30:37

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and they are. I mean, we’re very fortunate, you know, we serve over 300,000 people in Central Maryland. I mean, think about that. That’s crazy, but it’s

Nestor Aparicio  30:50

Camden Yards, right? Yeah, think about it, yeah, right,

John Hoey  30:52

right. So you know, that’s gonna say maybe 6m and D banks, whatever

Nestor Aparicio  31:00

it’s a lot

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Nestor Aparicio  31:01

of people, a

Nestor Aparicio  31:02

lot of people.

John Hoey  31:03

But I’m, you know, I’m proud of so much that we do. I could be here for four hours talking about it all, because it’s, it’s tell

Nestor Aparicio  31:10

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people how to be involved. Go to their local Y. There’s one down, there’s one within a mile, or five of you, basically, right?

John Hoey  31:14

Join the Y. You know, you won’t regret it. I mean, Nestor, sounds like it’d be good idea for you too, because we don’t just do fitness. We help you with nutrition and other things. I

Nestor Aparicio  31:25

must say that going to the turkey trot in Towson, and knowing that, like how Towson centric, and me living in Towson, I should at least come over and hang out a little. Next time we do the show we should

Nestor Aparicio  31:39

do

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John Hoey  31:39

next time we’re going to do it at the oracio. Y in Towson where you were,

Nestor Aparicio  31:43

okay,

John Hoey  31:44

let’s do it there. You’re gonna love it.

Nestor Aparicio  31:46

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All right, bring me in, man, you’re

John Hoey  31:48

gonna love it. So join the Y

Nestor Aparicio  31:50

appropriately the next time.

John Hoey  31:51

Yeah, we got camp just coming up. We have a lot of kids who need support, so we have send a kid to camp. So you can donate to help send kids to camp. Because

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Nestor Aparicio  32:00

what do they do at camp?

John Hoey  32:01

They do everything.

Nestor Aparicio  32:02

I don’t want to act like the poor kid that fried crab cakes that were special from Dundalk, poor little me, but like I didn’t get to go to camp. Well,

John Hoey  32:12

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that makes two of us Nestor, my parents couldn’t afford to send me to camp. You know what camp was for me? Was my bike.

Nestor Aparicio  32:19

We had a thing at Colgate Elementary School in the 70s, where in the summer, five days a week the parks and recreation program would open. It was like a fun center would be on a Friday night for us, but it was a daily thing, and literally, it was the old ditto paper. You’d smell the purple on it, you know. And my mom would put that get a little rush. I was lucky. Like someone asked me, Sarah David asked me, what my mom did. I’m like, my mom was a homemaker. You know what I mean, in the 70s and 80s, and she lost a child, took care to love me to death, but like when I got out of school, she didn’t my ass hanging at the house all day, no. So she put the Ditto up on the refrigerator. I’ll never forget it. And every day it was like a calendar, and our rec ran an Oriole night with a bus. We ran a King’s Dominion night. We had a couple of Rocky Point, like, wrote what field trips, yeah, but for the most part, like, we gathered in a y kind of environment as young people, because our parents had to work. I was lucky. My mom was home, but she’s like, you’re going up to school, you’re going out playing with a kid, you’re going up to camp. And I’m like, camp, Mom, it’s the elementary school. It’s in the cafeteria where I’ve been eating. That’s not camp. Camp was like, going away, yeah, what’s a y camp? Give me a camp.

John Hoey  33:37

Well, it’s a lot of different things we do day camp. So, you know,

Nestor Aparicio  33:42

we

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John Hoey  33:42

do, we have overnight camps as well.

Nestor Aparicio  33:44

Sounds more exotic, yes, more like meatballs.

John Hoey  33:46

That’s, yeah, well, meatballs are great movie, and so we do that so and we also have,

Nestor Aparicio  33:53

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you know, all my stick for 30 years has been the character meatballs, right? Yeah, it’s pretty good.

Nestor Aparicio  33:58

It’s a

John Hoey  33:58

bad one to go to. That’s

Nestor Aparicio  33:59

pretty good one.

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John Hoey  34:00

I was just that

Nestor Aparicio  34:01

line. That’s the best camp ever. I was, if your camps half as good as meatballs, I want to come to the Y cam. I get to have that much fun. Can I be a counselor?

John Hoey  34:08

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  34:08

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well, I’m not growing up enough for that. Yeah,

John Hoey  34:11

we’d have to do a background.

Nestor Aparicio  34:12

CEO president

John Hoey  34:13

would have to do a

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Nestor Aparicio  34:14

background. Responsible. Well,

John Hoey  34:17

you don’t want that 30

Nestor Aparicio  34:19

minutes a year is enough for you in here. Yeah, but why? Seriously, camp that that sounds as a kid, that sounds like something I’d want to do. That’s all

John Hoey  34:28

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we do a lot of camp. We engage young people at all ages, with, you know, with kids their own age, and it really is a wide variety of activities. And I always say, like, since I didn’t go to camp, but I sent my kids to camp. And the thing you want as a parent, when you pick your kid up at camp, you want them to be tired. You know you want to send my kids, who have had a great time and tired as can be. And so I can guarantee you, if you send your kid to Hawaii camp, and you pick. Them up at the end of the day after a hard day of work. For you, your kids gonna be happy and tired as can be, which is really the best state for a kid.

Nestor Aparicio  35:09

If I come as your counselor, can you guarantee that I’m not going to have mosquito bites?

John Hoey  35:14

No, I cannot guarantee that

Nestor Aparicio  35:16

I’m not your counselor. Then I’ve retired from my why development, I don’t sounds like woods. Wood sounds like a bears.

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John Hoey  35:27

Some, some of our camps have are in bears or access to woods. Well, I mean, look, bears may be out there. I we’ve never seen any around.

Nestor Aparicio  35:36

I saw a coyote in Baltimore County last month.

John Hoey  35:38

I believe that.

Nestor Aparicio  35:39

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Yeah, my wife went down to Asheville, North Carolina, with her family. She invited me. I’m like, Hey, you go your family alone. You have a good time. I’ll stay here watch the cat, and then, like, the third day, she had a bear in the trash can. Wow. I’m like, that’s a trip I don’t need to be on. So that’s not my kind of camp,

John Hoey  35:54

right?

Nestor Aparicio  35:55

My kind of camps more indoor, hotel oriented. I mean, I would do the bunks, but as long as they don’t have mosquitoes, that’s my only can I be a city camper?

John Hoey  36:07

You could. Yeah, you get we have camps. We have indoor camps too.

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Nestor Aparicio  36:11

That’s

Nestor Aparicio  36:11

my kind of camp. Indoor plumbing better, all

John Hoey  36:14

right, a few of those

Nestor Aparicio  36:15

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caught, not one of those, like, like, asleep on the floor, no,

John Hoey  36:20

well, I’m not. I’m talking about the day camps. We have some of that are indoors, but all of our overnight camps, I mean, you get you sleep indoors, none of them are outdoors,

Nestor Aparicio  36:30

all right,

John Hoey  36:30

but that’s

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Nestor Aparicio  36:31

right,

John Hoey  36:34

there’s real plumbing, but you are outside most of the day, which is good for for kids. John

Nestor Aparicio  36:39

always here from the Y. He’s doing good things for kids head start. And I would say this, man, when I come out to do the show with you at the Y, it’s been adults, mainly, right? I mean, I I think it kids. I think Head Start all that. But, like, even old people like me are at the Y from time to time. Yeah, but, but, I mean, it really is an incredible community.

John Hoey  36:58

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Well, we’re multi we’re we cut across every generation. You know we serve. There’s seven generations active in this world right now. We serve all seven of them.

Nestor Aparicio  37:06

I hope I’m still on the front three, not the back.

John Hoey  37:08

You don’t want to be on the back nine. John,

Nestor Aparicio  37:10

always here. It’s all brought to you by the marijuana. All right, so this is a moment of truth. Here. You taking acid tea courses? Are you taking Bay bridges? Two spans? I thought it was the Key Bridge, this is Boardwalk. Be 300,000 people with that boardwalk thing, the way you serve it, 300,000 just

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John Hoey  37:29

like, probably

Nestor Aparicio  37:30

not looks like this is right where they have the concert my kid goes to. And then we have mollusks. It looks like a Heron and some hawks. Which one’s yours?

John Hoey  37:37

Maryland mollusks, all right, I’m sure they’re often overlooked.

Nestor Aparicio  37:41

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Crustacean ear that I’ll be eating that one it cost us next week. Here’s John owie from the Y. Tell me how they can get involved in the Y and where to

John Hoey  37:47

go join the Y maryland.org support a kid, send a kid to camp, you know, or sign your kid up for camp. We have so much going on, but if you go to our website, why maryland.org you’re going to find a lot of good stuff.

Nestor Aparicio  38:03

I admitted to Dick Girardi this week of Baltimore, Maryland, 40 year horse analyst who lives up in Philly. Now that I can drive down 33rd Street. Now, because you’re there,

John Hoey  38:13

feel good about things. You feel better. Now

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Nestor Aparicio  38:17

I haven’t told you this. I went over there and with a friend of mine since the last time we were together. And I turned in, I like, I made the turn off a 33rd into the facility. I was showing a guy from Philly what Memorial Stadium was really wanted to see. It’s I rate him. He was here, and I drove him in, and I did it without getting cleaned. And you saw like I didn’t get

John Hoey  38:41

messed although I also saw the Cal Ripken senior field.

Nestor Aparicio  38:44

I did,

John Hoey  38:45

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yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  38:45

I was there the day they dedicated. That

John Hoey  38:47

did

Nestor Aparicio  38:47

you me

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Nestor Aparicio  38:47

and Brooks Robinson were there?

John Hoey  38:49

Yeah, that’s that was an awesome day.

Nestor Aparicio  38:50

Yeah, John always here. When you drive by 33rd Street, don’t think of Brooks or Johnny. Think of the why

John Hoey  38:58

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was great. You must be a pro.

Nestor Aparicio  39:00

You can drive in without feeling bad about the 79 Orioles or the 71 ores, or any of that stuff you want to cheap shots with the New York baseball thing. Or, you know, you’re talking to trash or No, Nestor,

John Hoey  39:09

I’m a New York Mets fan, so

Nestor Aparicio  39:10

that’s right,

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John Hoey  39:12

I’m remaining silent right now. This is a really,

Nestor Aparicio  39:15

I forgot your Mets, not Yankees. Yeah,

John Hoey  39:17

this is a tough year.

Nestor Aparicio  39:18

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I’m sorry. We

John Hoey  39:19

need a new general manager badly

Nestor Aparicio  39:23

might be ownership.

John Hoey  39:24

I think I have

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Nestor Aparicio  39:26

a lot of experience of bad ownership

John Hoey  39:28

is fine. I think he just picked the wrong General Manager. But that can be corrected.

Nestor Aparicio  39:34

If I were him, I’d hire Bobby Valentine to bring him back, is

John Hoey  39:37

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what I would do. It’s

Nestor Aparicio  39:38

my favorite. Met absolutely John. Oh, he’s here. We’re gonna be continuing our Maryland crab cake tour. John Allen’s gonna come by for a crab cake as well. We’re gonna have some fun around here. Is it pizza? John’s in Essex. I’m giving away Maryland lottery scratch offs. We will be a Planet Fitness on the seventh. We will be, that’s a Timonium. We’re on the 13th. We’ll be at faidley’s at Lexington market. Ivan Bates will be there. You know, we’re doing something that’s. Preakness oriented that we were doing something that I think they’ve been doing for 50 years now. It’s the crab derby. It’s the Preakness Derby with the crabs. It’s a little bit of a fun thing. We’re gonna be doing that on the 13th annifees, and we’re opening the fishmonger’s daughter the 21st

John Hoey  40:12

next time we can talk horse racing, because I grew up in Saratoga, New York, so I’m I grew up

Nestor Aparicio  40:18

all right at the race.

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John Hoey  40:19

If we’re

Nestor Aparicio  40:19

going to talk about the things that I’m not allowed to eat anymore, including the cheesesteak that I really wanted, the French fries that I wanted here, you’ve had hatties Fried chicken.

Nestor Aparicio  40:29

No,

Nestor Aparicio  40:30

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it’s in Saratoga. You’ve never had the fried chicken. Hatties Fried Miss Hattie’s fried chicken. You never done this.

John Hoey  40:36

Man, I must

Nestor Aparicio  40:37

who need the blowfish. Called it out in SPAC about 10 years ago, I was,

John Hoey  40:41

I grew up at SPAC.

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Nestor Aparicio  40:42

Okay, so I went to SPAC. SPAC looks like, isn’t

John Hoey  40:44

that beautiful?

Nestor Aparicio  40:45

It looks like a Greek garden of rocks. It’s kind of this weird area. And I went and they shouted at the chicken. I went ahead it the next day. Don’t tell John Cabot royal folks. But it was the best fried chicken

John Hoey  40:56

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ever in my life. It must have come about after I, you know, grew up and left there. But I’m glad to hear they’ve got some a marquee chicken. That’s good. You’ve

Nestor Aparicio  41:06

been

Nestor Aparicio  41:06

to the race track up there, Saratoga,

John Hoey  41:07

have I been? Yeah, literally, grew up there. I

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Nestor Aparicio  41:11

spent a glorious

John Hoey  41:14

I worked at the race track. Every time I go back in the summer.

Nestor Aparicio  41:19

You did the Travers. You did it

John Hoey  41:20

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all. I’ve done it all, man. I love it. It’s it’s sadly. I mean, I shouldn’t say this here in Baltimore, but comparing Saratoga racetrack to,

Nestor Aparicio  41:30

I know,

Nestor Aparicio  41:32

was

John Hoey  41:33

hard for me when I first went to Pimlico. I’m like, wait a minute, Joe.

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Nestor Aparicio  41:36

We went about eight or nine years ago. We went up to see hooting the blowfish. It’s back. And I love three Well, we drove out of New York, and the reason we went, we were in New York, rented a car and just said, Let’s go for it. I’ve never been to Saratoga. Was August. I’m like, let’s go. Let’s go do it. And we ran up see you in blow fishing. We spent the afternoon. We walked into Saratoga about the fourth rate. I had friends there that day. It was like, we walked into like a postcard.

John Hoey  41:59

Yes, it

Nestor Aparicio  41:59

was like walking into a 1957 like walking into Guys and Dolls. It was like walking into a movie set

John Hoey  42:06

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so beautiful. It’s funny, like, if you’re in Baltimore and you say, like, you know, I got dropped off at the racetrack as a kid, people would be like, Wow, was that like child abuse, and you wouldn’t do that at Pimlico. I didn’t

Nestor Aparicio  42:21

feel like I was dressed nice

John Hoey  42:22

enough. I would always beg, I’d beg, beg to drop off and be dropped off, and I’d get dropped off, and I spend the day there. And it was safe. It was fun. I learned how to bet I was tall, so, you know, they didn’t really question me when I bet I didn’t have much money. So it wasn’t, didn’t really matter.

Nestor Aparicio  42:39

My dad never went.

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Nestor Aparicio  42:41

I

John Hoey  42:41

just loved it. I saw, I met, I met famous jockeys and owners. And I saw, you know, alidar versus a firm at the Travers. I saw Secretariat there. I mean, I saw it all. So

Nestor Aparicio  42:57

you were there 73 to 83

John Hoey  43:00

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there in the

Nestor Aparicio  43:01

Seattle slough,

John Hoey  43:02

really, mostly the late 60s and throughout the 70s.

Nestor Aparicio  43:07

I never talked to you about this because, I mean, when we’re right on the eve of the Preakness, and I’ve done a lot of horse racing where Derby’s getting run this week, I didn’t know you had the thoroughbreds in your bloodlines.

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John Hoey  43:17

Yeah. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio  43:17

you didn’t even take the horses on the

John Hoey  43:19

I thought about

Nestor Aparicio  43:21

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it, but

John Hoey  43:22

somebody said, you said the last person took the horses. So I wanted to, you know, I wanted to diverse,

Nestor Aparicio  43:27

beautiful horses.

John Hoey  43:28

I was gonna pick the horses.

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Nestor Aparicio  43:29

Well, Marilyn lottery commissioned local artists to come up with this artwork. And this is Assateague, and these are the mollusks. And the I go to call this Blackwater, because it looks like Blackwater to me. And then this is, I thought it was a Key Bridge, but it’s Bay Bridge. But people keep taking the board walk when I keep running out of these. We will be giving these out at Planet Fitness on the seventh, 13th, at Fayette Lee’s 21st to fishmonger’s daughter into June. We’re gonna be getting all around the county, back at Costas, back at Koco’s, all over the place. Thanks, man. It’s good seeing

John Hoey  43:58

pleasure. Great to see you.

Nestor Aparicio  43:59

Sorry about your Mets, not really. Yeah, I remember 69 back for more. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us. We’re pizza John’s.

Nestor Aparicio  44:05

You.