It took Nestor Aparicio more than 31 years to finally corral his first boss and the man who sponsored his “big break” at The Baltimore Sun in 1986 to come on the radio show and tell all. Let former Baltimore Sun editor Bob Nusgart tell you (and Nestor) why he gave him a sports journalism life in 1984 at The News American that eventually became WNST at the 25th Anniversary at Costas Inn.
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SPEAKERS
Nestor Aparicio, Bob Nusgart
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Looking back at W n s t test Baltimore and Baltimore positive we are positively in my homeland we’re in Dundalk we are Costas it says So behind me on the wall. So I brought you by our friends at the Maryland lottery in conjunction with our friends winter nation. 866 90 nation, everybody it’s a lottery winners yet know Kevin Grace just came by with his Joe GaNS book. He brought me a gift. And I want to make sure that I get this this thing, right because the Joe GaNS thing and all this stuff because maybe cry, but he’s got today’s turned into his old school thing. Brian Poole was on my seventh grade basketball team. He was the tall white guy we needed in the middle. Back Back in hollyburn, Holabird, you know, internet, that was actually before the bad boys, I don’t know Mikael era. So he is here now, to have some crab cakes as well. And Bob mascara is going to be the guest on the show that you’ve always wanted to hear. He is I mean, Brian Pokeyman crowing about Kenny Albert and starting my career, and I give Kenny Albert this credit for starting getting me on to the radio station that recreated the relationship that became all that. But the guy that really started my career. The only reason I’m really here is Bob knausgaard. So before I get to Bob, I do want to give a little love to Kevin because today’s about me getting rid of nasty T shirts free the bird shirts, I got wacko for Flacco signs and I think my previous guest, Tom Pierce stole from me. And Bob, on the air. I’ve said for years that the year they gave this Palmer, Jersey out, I didn’t go to the game and like they gave it out. And Kevin brought me this is a 66 Palmer jersey, with the 66 lettering. The real deal, this EBO it’s a giveaway. I mean, it’s gonna be too big for me, and it’s gonna be cheaply made, I think, but I was downtown today they gave these things out, and I wanted to have this. So this is the 66th Palmer, Jersey here. And Kevin knows I collect jerseys in Pacific a belt buckles, you know, so, yeah, it looks good. Where were you in? 66?
Bob Nusgart 01:59
Where was I in? 66? Yeah, I was in Columbus, Ohio.
Nestor Aparicio 02:03
How old? Were you in 66. You’re older than me, but not by much, but not much. Not? You MCs. You’re catching up. Thank you, Freeman. Go ahead. I’m catching up
Bob Nusgart 02:12
to you. 66. I was nine years old.
Nestor Aparicio 02:15
But you remember Did you watch the World Series? Not at that time more seven more rats. I did
Bob Nusgart 02:22
not become a huge sports fan until 1970 with the start of the Big Red Machine. Right. And then
Nestor Aparicio 02:30
when he was Robin Lee Mae and by tolling
Bob Nusgart 02:33
Okay, so I’ll give you the first fun story about me and Brooks. All right.
Nestor Aparicio 02:37
Okay, this is the man do you gave me my entire career has never you ever been on my show?
Bob Nusgart 02:43
This is this is the first ever ever,
Nestor Aparicio 02:47
ever 25 years I am hard to get get bought in the start on the show. And he drove from Ken Island today where you pay a lot. Okay, go ahead. Paying crabcakes.
Bob Nusgart 02:59
So, nobody knows who you are. Am I know? As far as I know, who is who is God knows God is
Nestor Aparicio 03:05
one of the most significant humans in my life. You know, and I’ll cry during this segment. Oh my
Bob Nusgart 03:09
god. Jen, did you hear that? One of the most significant you know, it’s true. Okay. Okay. Without you. They never hear me. Yeah. Well, that’s true.
Nestor Aparicio 03:21
And you’re on the wrong 70 World Series. Well, well, the right side for you know,
Bob Nusgart 03:25
I guess and let me tell you, that’s still pisses me off because that was my first. You know, baseball was my love. You know, more than Archie Griffin. Yeah. Well, arch came along in the next couple of years. I
Nestor Aparicio 03:39
screen. What Cornelius green to corny green.
Bob Nusgart 03:42
Yeah, there you go. That’s very impressive. Very,
Nestor Aparicio 03:45
I knew a lot of me dude. I was such a sports for you.
Bob Nusgart 03:48
Bash Nagel? Yes. Your Modus.
Nestor Aparicio 03:51
Yeah, but I was more capuleti there in that area and then show and then
Bob Nusgart 03:57
the early early 70s. Right. Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 04:00
I was gonna say because of capuleti. Yeah, he was good player. Yeah. Great player. Then Archie. And Archie did twice.
Bob Nusgart 04:08
But arch arch was the first freshman. Okay that Woody Hayes actually put into a game and the first time arch got into a game he fumbled.
Nestor Aparicio 04:19
I remember the night Woody Hayes punched, punched a kid. I remember Mr. Frank pokes out.
Bob Nusgart 04:25
Okay, you know you’re let’s not pile on the old man here. Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 04:30
That was scandalous. wasn’t at the time? Yeah. No scarred was women. Let me get you the bookstore. Oh, okay. You know your job. We won. We had a parade which went to the Hall of Fame. So he went to the Orioles.
Bob Nusgart 04:45
So, yeah, Lee May who took 10.2 seconds to get down to first base. No, that’s okay. That’s okay. No wonder Brooks was able to throw him out from 90 feet off. Talking your own players. Yeah. Well, because See she better than that? No. Hi. Oh, come on, man. Yeah, but we got rid of him to get Joe Morgan.
Nestor Aparicio 05:06
He’s still a reds fan. Yeah. Not written out the way you were.
Bob Nusgart 05:10
Well, not not taking that. That’s true. Yeah. So to get the when I first came to Baltimore, okay when I was at DNA and Newsom, okay, so
Nestor Aparicio 05:23
let me just reset, can you have some iced tea and that’ll let you talk. They’re bringing me a mushroom caps here, Costas and I’ll shut up I promise, my mouth will be full. Bob was my boss and on the desk at the news, American and sports first in January of 1984. I walked in a guy named Tom Robinson was really my sponsor. And as you would say, in charge of the interns. I was an intern at the news American, and all really happened at his point mall. I was in the Aladdin, Aladdin Castle, or, Hey, Brian, you remember the Aladdin’s castle at East Point mall next to the Chick fil A. Right where Santa Claus middle Mall. Mr. Painting Mr. bading. Marty bading. The late great Marty bading. What do you remember Melissa baiting from our class Melissa’s father was they were in the arcade during Christmas 1983 Christmas. And Mr. bading saw me and I am now in high school. It’s my 10th grade year of high school. You’re and you’re like 15 Oh, my last month of ninth grade and hollyburn. And Mr. Stadium will be here. You’ll meet Mr. Stadium today if you stay an hour. And this will be a thrill for you be a thrill for me. So, in 1982, or 83 Christmas time, I’m at the mall in let’s say May of 82. I filled out a form with Mr. bading as a substitute teacher in the cafeteria at Halliburton middle school where Brian Poole was with me. And I said I wanted to be a journalist and I circled journalism on this blue form. And Mr. Beatty, remember that? He said, Hey, I work at the newspaper. I’ll get you a job. That’s what he said to me. Was that May of 82. I filled it out. I did not get selected to be in the journalism class, which led me to meet Don molar. My parents put me in the car. In August of 1982. Jim Palmer is about to go against Sutton takes me down to the Del Valle Avenue Don molar meets me at the front door puts me in the journalism class with Don molar. So a year and a half later now. I’m at the mall. He’s point mall Christmas at three. And Mr. bading says hey, you still want a job at the paper. And if you think of him as being a little bit like Sam from a Brady Bunch Alice’s husband, Sam. Mr. bading looked a little bit like him and had his countenance a little bit. He was a printer at the news American the NA and what’s a printer? A printer is a guy used to take the hot metal pipe and put it in so you had a newspaper. By the time I got there. He had an exacto knife and some hot that some hot wax on paper that glued down pagination. So he said to me, you want to drop the paper. I said, Mr. Paden, you’re gonna give me a job at the newspaper, news, American with a great job snapping. Yes. I said, all right. Three weeks later, my phone rings. My mother answers the phone. Hey, some guy named Tom Robinson wants you he’s from the newspaper, you might want to take the call is my mother. Pick up the phone. Robbie says, Hey, you come down and interview. My dad went with me on the bus number 10. Boss, I went down. I probably didn’t have a suit on or anything. Because he told me don’t dress like that you’ll look like a jerk. Because we’re at a newspaper. And we’re all like mechanics here. So I walk into that newsroom and into the back which used to be the commissary that they turned into the sports department. And this man was the man that took me under his wing. And it’s been it’ll be 40 years and it’d be 40 years in January. Now it’s good and I’ve never put you on my show and 32 years shame on me.
Bob Nusgart 09:16
I’m embarrassed Aren’t you glad I lasted this long.
Nestor Aparicio 09:19
So telling you story about how we beat the reds and then we can tell some stories. You make me cry? We’ll eat some food.
Bob Nusgart 09:24
So here I am as a 13 year old just all over the Reds listen to every game on the radio. WL w the 50,000 was the broadcaster
Nestor Aparicio 09:34
who was their guy knocks off no yeah Knucks and Jim, when he was 12
Bob Nusgart 09:41
right Jim and Joe on the radio and and so here we get just plow right through the pirates in the divisional the first year of the divisional playoffs. Now we’re ready for the Oreos. Okay on the Oreos come to town now
Nestor Aparicio 10:00
The game is a rainout in that series right the World Series has seven features. I remember Weaver’s
Bob Nusgart 10:05
or spark jump about 71 We’re in
Nestor Aparicio 10:08
1970 There’s a ribs of rain out in the Cincinnati riverfront. The game got pushed in that world series. No, no, I don’t think so. I think Sparky
Bob Nusgart 10:18
All I know is is that in the in the first game there, you know, the first bad thing was Elrod Hendricks. Okay, thank God for Ellie and Bernie Carbo colliding at home place I remember this right and there’s a great Sports Illustrated picture because the umpire I forget his name right now calls how Bernie Carbo. Le is tagging him with the glove. Umpire thinks the ball is in the glove. Ellie has the glove in one hand, the ball is in the other hand. Okay, you’re out. You say? Sparky Anderson comes out. Ken Burkhart was the umpire. Okay.
Nestor Aparicio 11:01
I met Bernie Carbo 40 years later because he came in sports legends did a 40 year for the 70 team. Right. Okay, and Bernie Carbo came in as a part of it. So you know what I mean? I think l Rob went by then. But I remember Palmer Weaver were there Brooks was there. Paul Blair was there that night or Flanagan was there but like, I like the Bernie Carbo thing now it makes sense that he would be he was
Bob Nusgart 11:26
then as the series unfolds here is the first player who actually understood how to play astroturf was Brooks Robinson, playing 20 feet off the bat because his balls getting to me at 105 miles an hour on three bounces and makes it easy. Of course. He also went past the bag did his Brooksie thing
Nestor Aparicio 11:46
are you seeing better Hall of Famer had he played in the National League? No, no, no. You asked me don’t come on. It’s 25th anniversary Poupon Brooks.
Bob Nusgart 11:55
So So anyway, he does his thing you know, and the reds go down in flames. I mean, I’m listening to the final game. I in this the final game game five okay. 13 though. I am 13 at this time. All right. Hard to believe me a 13 year old boy and your team loses the World Series and you’re listening to the game on the radio in art class.
Nestor Aparicio 12:15
I was 11 when the pirates happened and I’m scarred by Sister Sledge all of it. Yeah, I know. We are for him. He was a really star jewel and I don’t like it.
Bob Nusgart 12:23
So the Reds go up in game five, three to nothing. Of course they get blown out nine to three. Orioles win the whole thing. Brooks Robinson this Brooks Robinson I am fed up with okay. I can’t stand this guy. Hey, Baltimore. I hate I hate everything. Baltimore. Well, I loved it. When the Jets won. It was the
Nestor Aparicio 12:42
Bengals fan yet. The National Championships when you were like 1516 you could okay. And then you had the big red.
Bob Nusgart 12:52
Oh, it was gone. So here I am. I get the Baltimore. Okay.
Nestor Aparicio 12:57
The Red Sox rolled over.
Bob Nusgart 12:59
Now that we’re down Memorial Stadium,
Nestor Aparicio 13:02
we’re gonna weep for you.
Bob Nusgart 13:04
Well, you know, it’s, it’s the little things. Okay,
Nestor Aparicio 13:07
if I were here with Bert Blyleven, I would pitch about the 79 Pirates, but I’m not you know, I’m here to praise you.
Bob Nusgart 13:14
You’re here to praise me.
Nestor Aparicio 13:16
I’m here to praise you.
Bob Nusgart 13:17
But this is how big of a man I was at the time. You took a job Baltimore, come to Baltimore. Okay, as I go and add to Okay, first game going into Memorial Stadium, getting into the press elevator to go up smelling the crankcase. So who comes into the elevator with me? Brooks Brooks. I am standing next to Brooks like sitting next to you. Here is the guy that I despise to my childhood and here’s my chance never had nobody nobody know hated Brooks
Nestor Aparicio 13:51
Robinson his formative years he hates Santa Claus we wouldn’t we would we come on Mitch ruse for Pete Rose this guy
Bob Nusgart 14:01
greatest ballplayer ever. P rose P rose. I’ve already praised boy hole in the in the in the club. He
Nestor Aparicio 14:09
only met him one time he was actually nice to me. I told that story. Last segment
Bob Nusgart 14:12
well, but rose Yeah. Well, he wasn’t nice to me.
Nestor Aparicio 14:16
Well pneus about mascara now is in the mortgage but tell them what you really do. So I can help you sell something because you feed your family still write a newspaper we go watch my dad told me about it never came.
Bob Nusgart 14:27
Never came. Never came
Nestor Aparicio 14:29
dad died. So pisted meanness I mean, he’s so mad at me that I left the paper. You know, he he had dementia. So maybe that I can write that off. But yeah, but you know, I You thought I was gonna die newspaperman. Right. Had you ever met anybody my age of love newspapers more than me. I love the newspaper. I love to every Europe
Bob Nusgart 14:47
Amer you were a game. I
Nestor Aparicio 14:49
loved everything about it. I still do. I’m reading maps and I still
Bob Nusgart 14:54
thought you were the one guy walked in. It’s like okay, I got to do this little crap job. Here you go. When do I get to cover the world? Orioles I want to cover the Orioles. I’m there for 10 minutes to cover. You you sweated it. You burped it you threw up on it. Let me cover you know, I could do a better job than this one and Rosie
Nestor Aparicio 15:15
Rosenthal now you know live from New York
Bob Nusgart 15:17
when horrible, horrible.
Nestor Aparicio 15:21
I was. I was sick. I really was. Yeah,
Bob Nusgart 15:24
so okay, if you’re not gonna let me cover these teams. I’m just gonna go out I’m gonna
Nestor Aparicio 15:30
be honest truth man. I was 15 years old. All I wanted to do was be great. That’s all I ever wanted to be was great like that. I was obsessed. No,
Bob Nusgart 15:40
you’d be like, you’d be like, get into kindergarten with the thing that says just just give me the diploma. I’m gonna get there. Just give me the diploma. I don’t need this 12 years to earn it. You know?
Nestor Aparicio 15:50
Because you sent me to the skip Jacks locker room when I was 15. Yeah, why would an early
Bob Nusgart 15:56
skip Jax? Jax let me I love the concept of the skip Jax but the skip Jax had one
Nestor Aparicio 16:04
Houston concept Oilers. I wanted this to make you comfortable by the way. Oh,
Bob Nusgart 16:10
yeah. The only kid in Baltimore that is a diehard oiler fan. I wore
Nestor Aparicio 16:15
Euler stuff. Also I get every night pass
Bob Nusgart 16:19
greenies a week. Damn pass is pastor at Jersey, a pastor in New Jersey. Absolutely. Yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 16:25
it fits me and I got on the internet for $32 and I love it. Dan loved it too when I sent him a text so
Bob Nusgart 16:32
so they said they still have those out there. When I
Nestor Aparicio 16:34
see Sandy McKee. And if anybody was an old school newspaper reader, she’s a NASCAR writer Hall of Fame. She covered sports but had her own desk overlooking the freeway on the fifth floor. And she know you’re
Bob Nusgart 16:49
at a classy place. When the highlight is a desk. I could look out a window at a highway. That was
Nestor Aparicio 16:59
during then when there was a car chase Dicker when would be on a scanner in the middle of the newsroom. We have a perpetrator coming southbound right now up at three North should be passing by the building and about 50 seconds. Just past Coldspring Lane he’s doing proximately 85 miles an hour. People know who they would have the you know, Dick was the police plotter like friggin legend.
Bob Nusgart 17:23
This guy was the original and we would all go over to
Nestor Aparicio 17:25
the window and Dick would have like he’s like he’s watching the horses cab. He would have like binoculars looking at and damage there wouldn’t be 10 cop cars coming down. And meanwhile my car’s getting broken into for the eighth time underneath the bridge at 501 North
Bob Nusgart 17:41
Gurwin stories all night long. There. gurgling was one of the great was he was a newspapers guide newspaper. He was the best ever Oh, that was that was a guy
Nestor Aparicio 17:51
three o’clock in the morning. He come over we’re editing putting the newspaper together because we work night shift. That’s the thing. I want to let everybody know. I work with Bob at the news American we put a like a paper together. And I was 15 and 16. When did you leave to go to the sun you and Molly Dhanam 84 When was it?
Bob Nusgart 18:11
And October of 84.
Nestor Aparicio 18:13
Okay, so I got there in January of 84. In October of 84. You left the summer of 84. He says to me, I’m down there work and at eight o’clock at night. I need you to write a story. He says to me, Theresa Andrews just won the gold medal at Los Angeles. I need you to call Marie Stevens her coach over the north Baltimore Aquatic Club since July 1984 Mary Lou Retton is doing her thing flow home and the whole deal right? And she said he says you gotta call her so I got my first byline in the news American. Andrew strikes gold hits home. The true headline. That’s what it says. So this so he sent me got my first byline because like you trusted me to write a six inch piece and you knew I wanted to see my name in the paper. You made that happen for me. And then you left
Bob Nusgart 19:09
in October you drove me out.
Nestor Aparicio 19:13
So what everybody was leaving because the place was going out of business. Right. Tell that story.
Bob Nusgart 19:17
Well, the news American was first of all, I came from Austin, Texas.
Nestor Aparicio 19:24
told me he was so shocked he took this gig. Yeah. I could not believe that Bob mascara wanted to leave Austin Texas.
Bob Nusgart 19:35
Sometimes I wonder why. Awesome.
Nestor Aparicio 19:37
Burton, swimming’s pretty girls. Coming to the state capitol Texas
Bob Nusgart 19:41
chili house. Lone Star beer
Nestor Aparicio 19:45
for the first time of my life six months ago to see Springsteen and if they helped us keep Austin weird. Austin Texas was awesome.
Bob Nusgart 19:52
But Austin, Texas back in. I arrived there in I was there for like, one year For one year in college 23 No, I was at Pensacola first. Okay. That’s cool News Journal. Beautiful. Get that paper.
Nestor Aparicio 20:07
What did you do? They’re not sports. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Oh,
Bob Nusgart 20:11
oh no. And when you’re in Pensacola we had to cover these were the teams that we covered religiously. Florida Gators. Okay. Now Alabama coach, Pensacola is lower Alabama, right. Got it. Redneck Riviera, Auburn. Okay. Alabama, Auburn, Southern Miss. Florida State Florida State right Florida and FAMU Florida. Okay.
Nestor Aparicio 20:36
So high schools.
Bob Nusgart 20:38
And and my assignment. My assignment was that twice a week. I had to call around, gather up information. You know, so you had the Saturday game. On Tuesday, I had to fill an entire page.
Nestor Aparicio 20:53
Are you gonna talk for a while because you are I’m going to eat mushrooms. Eat your mic. All right, go ahead. So you tell some stories
Bob Nusgart 20:59
fill an entire page. Okay. And
Nestor Aparicio 21:03
metal type there at that time was this old school also about this was monitor monitor. Okay, so my newspaper standard monitor modern by 1981 standard they had they had computer terminals. All right, fair enough.
Bob Nusgart 21:15
They just come out. It’s funny because my original sign on was NAS and use Easy, which I’ve kept to this day.
Nestor Aparicio 21:25
Don’t tell people that the people listening this show are gonna break into your some account.
Bob Nusgart 21:29
They won’t see it. So anyway, we’re we’re
Nestor Aparicio 21:34
asked how did you get from so called Austin Austin to Baltimore. So
Bob Nusgart 21:38
there was so there was a sports writer she did. Her name was Janet slow and she wrote, and she got a job at the Austin American Statesman. Ah, okay. And so it was always the end, right? Somebody, you always find somebody and then they call but before I got to Austin, got a phone call from the sports editor at the Houston Post. It hurt me and he wanted me to come on in for an interview. Hey, they flew me out from Pensacola to Houston and sigh Oh my god, this is this is the big time. This is huge. You know, pro town. Okay. Oilers. Okay, rockets. Okay, the whole the whole thing one
Nestor Aparicio 22:21
Oh, camel is falling apart. I mean, things are bad Stabler was and it wasn’t good.
Bob Nusgart 22:27
So, so anyway, you learn the first rule, Okay, you go there, they interview you, they love you. And then they give you the test. Because this was the work on the copy desk. Okay. And the test was here are 50 Devil words. Okay. Devil words. Yes. Where? Anyway. So these are the words like, okay, they’re, they’re next to each other, you know, pick out which one that is spelled incorrectly. Okay, and if they’re both spelled incorrectly spell it correctly. B is a spelling bee. Which, which was this is before you had computers that would spell check, and they wouldn’t give you a dictionary. There’s no no this is like you got to know it. All right. And you know, when you would take a test and you know, after like seven
Nestor Aparicio 23:24
words like reluctant, that might be an end or
Bob Nusgart 23:28
two wins, or one and two T’s two E which
Nestor Aparicio 23:31
always takes the calm and not that you taught me that very end.
Bob Nusgart 23:34
And you just go okay, I know this is going downhill real quick, you know, and of course, I was right, failed, you know, I failed. I failed. I failed the editor test. And the guy calls me up. And he says, Well, you know, maybe get a little bit more seasoning, get a loaner. And that was when I went with my tail between my legs back to Pensacola because I had just blown a job. That would increase my weekly pay fivefold. Okay. From going my my weekly pay at the Pensacola News Journal we never would have was 200 and to be here, it’s $215 a week.
Nestor Aparicio 24:14
Okay, so you go to Austin, then I go to leave Austin, Texas.
Bob Nusgart 24:19
Austin. You’re young. There’s very simple. I wanted to get back to the Big Sioux to a big city, East Coast
Nestor Aparicio 24:27
College and I never and I never miss
Bob Nusgart 24:30
Columbus wasn’t the Columbus of today Columbus was like, it was Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus, right Columbus Day. Alito and Akron, so so it was number three and everything until you realize that Columbus,
Nestor Aparicio 24:47
Baltimore You chased the Colts out of here. Well, the Orioles won the World Series, which I’m sure you loved because you love Brooks. And and then the Colts left in the cold. So I started at the P Brij
Bob Nusgart 25:00
even though I was quoted, even though it’s quoted in the Indianapolis paper, that where are you? Oh, yeah, yeah, they called me up and they wanted to know, like, what was going on? And I said, just I doubt it’s going to happen. It’s not going to happen. He’s done this or say he’s done this so many times now. And they were and they were giving him a video. Yeah, well, that that Oh, that was a classic, right? No, but but the night, but the night of the move. Yeah. When I was at Edna, I was still at the,
Nestor Aparicio 25:30
because I was at TNA. And I remember the night of the move. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Would you lay out the paper that night?
Bob Nusgart 25:37
We were we were actually it was we were putting God forgot we were putting the paper to bed. All right. Okay. So who was it beat? Right and Ken Murray? Yeah. Ken Murray. Alright. Yeah. Barry Levine. Uh huh. Bernie was around Jeff Gordon. Bernie row. Yeah. So but Stedman No,
Nestor Aparicio 25:57
I mean, Stedman right.
Bob Nusgart 26:00
Well, you know, I always I always blame Stedman. I said, you know, you are the reason why the Colts left. What do you mean, the ad? And I said, Well, come on. You knew Pete. You know, Pete and you were buds. You were buddies. You guys could have stopped that. Couldn’t have done that credit. It’s a travesty. It’s a travesty. Okay. Yes.
Nestor Aparicio 26:24
He called Bob mercy a different name. Yeah, sort of the name that Lamar called that kid in Pennsylvania. Similar line right along that line. But no scars here. He was my my editor. Easy reason I have a career. The reason I’m here at cost isn’t eating these delicious mushroom caps.
Bob Nusgart 26:41
So So anyway, one call comes into the newsroom. You know, Hey, I see some something’s going on at the coal complex. Okay, the one then there was two calls, then it was four calls. Okay. Something’s going on. And that’s when we sent gene Boyers. Okay, okay. I can’t believe I’m remembering these names.
Nestor Aparicio 27:04
I got a good gene on the show. I didn’t okay, I’m thinking about this. Rachel talk. Eugene boys are great photographers out in the desert taking pictures raising grandkids love and life.
Bob Nusgart 27:12
So he goes out there. I think Barry Levine goes out there. And they have this place cordoned off. Barry Levine, who after he did a stint in Baltimore went to the National Enquirer. Oh, yeah. And Mary’s been on the show. Barry Barry was one of the great character entry characters that you’ll ever meet. And he weaseled his
Nestor Aparicio 27:34
way part Hunter S. Thompson part. Maury Povich show,
Bob Nusgart 27:39
and it would take four hours to write three paragraphs. Well,
Nestor Aparicio 27:45
it’s a little short. Yeah, that’s okay. That’s fine.
Bob Nusgart 27:48
Barry weaseled his way into the cold saw this
Nestor Aparicio 27:51
editor stuff. This is what I was saying. I knew when I was a kid who was a good writer, a bad writer. We were you asked me why I was so prickly about getting things right is because I was around you guys. I wanted to get things right. Well, I wanted to be great. It’s because I wanted you to love it. And that was great. You know?
Bob Nusgart 28:10
Well, you you turned out okay, it
Nestor Aparicio 28:12
turned out okay. No, it wasn’t working out wasn’t for lack of effort. It wasn’t for you guys beat me on. Yeah. Was it for me screwing the lottery now? Isn’t it great that I’m sponsored by the lottery, isn’t it?
Bob Nusgart 28:23
Your whole life has been a lottery. Right?
Nestor Aparicio 28:27
It’s like the Pearl Jam song hit the lottery when he was born. Right? Like, just like that.
Bob Nusgart 28:33
But that’s true. It’s true.
Nestor Aparicio 28:34
Did you think that 40 years later? Actually, I screwed the lottery numbers about 35 years ago, but I would screw the lottery numbers up on this.
Bob Nusgart 28:42
Do you know how many people thought that they won a million dollars and then lost it because of my
Nestor Aparicio 28:47
executive editor of the other big Sameen Jack Lemmon called me in a big office? Jack Lemmon look like Lou Grant, right? Didn’t he?
Bob Nusgart 28:56
Luke grant or Mr. Potter from it’s it’s a wonderful, okay.
Nestor Aparicio 28:59
It’s when he calls me in and just to intimidate because they didn’t really want to fire me because everybody their loved me. And he shuts the door. He’s like, son, I just can’t have you screwed up. And all these years later, the lotteries,
Bob Nusgart 29:13
lottery is a great status. The great irony of
Nestor Aparicio 29:21
any irony of 25 years is that I created this radio stage to realize the
Bob Nusgart 29:26
Ravens million dollar billion dollars writing that if you were if you were still doing that, you would have given somebody a heart attack. And they’d say, sorry, really, John, I’ll
Nestor Aparicio 29:40
give the tickets out. I will not read the scores. Marlo says You saved me three or four times because I had the wrong seat. Yeah, you saved me a few times.
Bob Nusgart 29:51
A few times. No, that’s fine. But we would open up the window and yell Nestor back up
Nestor Aparicio 30:00
Yeah, fix the lottery
Bob Nusgart 30:04
you know it’s like the old it was the original You had one job yeah one job to do
Nestor Aparicio 30:10
but but not war Nunes playing in Foxborough? Yeah. And I gotta go, man. Yeah.
Bob Nusgart 30:15
Before these numbers get out.
Nestor Aparicio 30:19
I turn 18 with you every time I see you get mad or disappointed with me. Yeah. So my wife says to me, like six months ago. You and I were together. Brian, you’re with us at night, right? We want to see your wife’s band. Right? Where? We’re at Riley’s oyster. Yes. All right, so we’re Riley’s oyster
Bob Nusgart 30:37
and their bands playing a bare bones here in a couple of weeks. bare bones in Ellicott City. To date on. I believe it’s August 18.
Nestor Aparicio 30:44
I’m an Ocean City, man.
Bob Nusgart 30:45
You know? Um, well, I guess we’ll have to. I can’t go
Nestor Aparicio 30:49
by Oh, so we’re there. And you and I like our BS and what your wife’s plan Brian met us out for a beer my wife stare Ellen’s bra, everybody’s there. Right? We leave we get in the car. And my wife says to me, that guy loves you more than any one on Earth loves you. And I’m like, What do you mean? She’s like, That guy loves you more than anybody loves you. And I thought that that was really saying that she said, she said no one loves you more than Bob NASCAR.
Bob Nusgart 31:23
And I’m thinking to myself protected you. You did? Not me so sometimes from yourself.
Nestor Aparicio 31:29
So here’s the story about how wn St. was built. In 1984 you leave me in October. Everybody’s leaving the news, America and they’re all afraid it’s gonna go out of business. Because it was going out of business going out of business. And I’m a kid. I don’t know anything. I’m 17 years old. I’m happy to be there. Bob past him called me into the little glass office. And he says Nestor we we need someone to cover the F and skip jacks. And, you know, you seem to know hockey a little bit. We’re gonna send you up there. Give me a pass. I’m only 15 No, I didn’t say that. I’m like, I’m gonna write like a 17 year old, you know? And I’m like, so I started covering the games, and they paid me 25 bucks or 15 or whatever it was. And I went and did it. Women who used to cover hockey for Tom Robinson it was it was robbing for there was somebody George Taylor, George Taylor. Well, he was anything son. Yeah, he was called. I didn’t use American I don’t know that anybody. Right. The skip Jacks were like an allergy. Nobody wanted to go to an empty hockey rink.
Bob Nusgart 32:37
No, them skip. The skip Jacks had a what was it? To understand it? Well, it was 3265 Okay, next night. What was the what was 3260? By every night it was the same?
Nestor Aparicio 32:52
They weren’t lying about that. You know. So anyway, they put me on the Skipjacks because nobody wanted to go and I had what you would call enthusiasm, right? Yes. Give me that I’ll do unbridled. Give me that. I will write about it. Do I get my name in the paper? Do I get to I get to cover the Orioles? Yeah, right. Do I get to cover the Orioles by doing this? Alright,
Bob Nusgart 33:12
good. Because now I’ve shown you I can do the skip jacks. Therefore I should be able to do the Orioles.
Nestor Aparicio 33:16
Right. It’s exactly though isn’t that doesn’t that serve the standard?
Bob Nusgart 33:20
After after one story.
Nestor Aparicio 33:22
So
Bob Nusgart 33:24
I’m good to go. You, me and Peter King. Were ready. You
Nestor Aparicio 33:30
leave in October of 84. And at some point in early 85. I graduated high school June of 85. And I got on the phone with you and I’ll never forget this. I snuck out of the sports department. We had this long hallway. And in the hallway was where the morgue was. So the morgue had one door. Now the fire floor is the library. It’s a library. It’s where every newspaper clip from 17 Nine. Everything ever was in this morgue. And it smelled like an old paper mill. It had this beautiful print smell to it that if you lit a match in there, everything in there was dusty like Calvin stadium. Everything in there was old falling apart. All right. So I went in there and I grabbed the phone and I called up to the evening sun. NUS says I get in at 11 o’clock at night. So there was a break in the paper at night. And I call up the Nasus Do you remember this call? I called you and said you got to get me out of here. But I think this place is going out of business. And I’m 17 was a 17 I was only six that was 1617 I was about to turn 70 I was 16 I said no she gotta get me out of here. splices going out of business. I’ve been here 15 months I’m not covering the Orioles yet, you know, I see gotta get me out of here. Travis. I swear I sent it just like that. I remember where I was Mark Miller, the old reporter came in and caught me on the phone with you. And I was worried he was doing some story on this thing called aids that nobody knew anything about. I remember all this. So I said, No, she gotta get me out of here. And you said to me that night, you’re like, You laughed at me. And you’re like, ness, I’m gonna get you out of there. I’m gonna get you out of there. Just relax. I’m gonna get I was like, I was in jail. You were like my lawyer. You’re like, I’m gonna get you out of there. I’m like, Bob’s gonna get in and call you Mr. NASCAR. You were just nervous. Bob. I don’t know. I didn’t have any respect for any of you. Other than I just call Mr. stabbed the mystery. Call me John. And I figure if I can call him John. I ain’t calling you mister. You know. So nos calls me one night and says, give me a call. I got some news for you. There’s a guy named Steve Andrew lowness right after loans. And Steve Angelo. This was my original foil. I hated him because he had the job I want, right. I wanted Steve Angelo does his job. And you said to me, this guy’s gonna bet to get a promotion. They’re gonna make him a reporter. I’m gonna have an opening up here for you soon. Just hang out. I’m gonna I’m gonna get you here. I’m gonna get you here. And you knew I had a kid. You knew I needed. I needed insurance for my kid, right? You I had a baby. I was 15 You’re 16 years old that a baby. And you’re like, I’m gonna get you out of here. And sure enough, he said, give me a call. I went back into the more because it was the only place I can make those kind of phone calls. And you said What time do you get off? And I said, I get off around 11 tonight. He’s like, listen, on your way home, stop up at the evening sun. I’ll never forget this. I pulled up at 11 o’clock. 1130 at night, maybe midnight. On a Sunday night. I pulled up in this. It was Christmas. It was like two weeks before Christmas. And I parked the car and you had ever security guards at the sun. Like at midnight, man. You had to like get a pass. Good news, American. You just did whatever you want it you know. And I went in and I sat in Jack’s office and you came in and Mike Marlowe, who’s a legend came in and you’re like, we’re gonna hire you. And you handed me this employee handbook that had all of my vacation days. It had all of my legal it was like a real thing. It was a union. It was the Baltimore Washington, you newspaper guild union book. And I looked there and I was no longer making $3.33 An hour under the table from the Hearst Corporation. You had stepped me up. And I Brian, this is 1980 86 January 6. I had a job. It was like $18,200 a year with benefits. And like 10 days of real vacation is six or seven other that you can fake if you want it to but I never wanted to fake being I love working. And you gave me a life.
Bob Nusgart 38:03
And look what happened. Why did you believe
Nestor Aparicio 38:05
in me? Why did you want me around handing out flyers 40 hours a week all night long. Three o’clock in the morning. Four o’clock in the morning five o’clock in the morning if
Bob Nusgart 38:16
you wanted to work I was a pain in Word. You wanted to work?
Nestor Aparicio 38:21
I just like this.
Bob Nusgart 38:24
I will give you I will give you the line. You know what why? And your hair was not that long. It was
Nestor Aparicio 38:33
when I left nine to got to be this long row. Yeah. And Yeti better thing going on? Yeah, yeah. had a girlfriend that like long hair. Spent a lot of time to hammer Jackson’s you remember? Yeah, that’s right. Did you did you ever go to hammer jacks with me?
Bob Nusgart 38:47
Now with you with hammer Jacks one one time. I begged you to go. And I actually almost got into a fight with the guy.
Nestor Aparicio 38:56
What do you see there?
Bob Nusgart 38:57
Yeah. Well, it was let me see.
Nestor Aparicio 39:03
Good taste amuse you love Springsteen. Love good music. Of course. I bet you’re wasting a incredible band.
Bob Nusgart 39:09
But this was actually I think for my wife’s 40th birthday. And we had and we were at hammer taxes. I think this was the new the new hammer Jack. Oh, that’s not the same as yours. It wasn’t the same. No, it wasn’t the same
Nestor Aparicio 39:22
never went down with me. Like because Zang was with me, Chris Zane took me on my 21st birthday to have my first legal beard Amberjacks bad English played that night. John. Wait, Neil. Sean.
Bob Nusgart 39:37
Well, let’s put it this way when I was when I came to the news, American okay. So in the middle of the night so the work hours were from 11pm to 6am Was it all it was a horror as soon as you could possibly get out? Okay, but in the middle of the night. Okay, it’s time for break. We would walk to the block every night now. This Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 40:00
My pleasure palace on this corner I remember no but right in the middle of the point you get
Bob Nusgart 40:08
some back you know it’s like okay I just came from Austin Texas pull out
Nestor Aparicio 40:12
John he’s right down here and Edgemere now they do you can relive the experience they’re still around it’s legit it’s a mile away we can get one I don’t know offense the polish I don’t know why you leave costs to go there but in the other direction from drug study we’re going to be
Bob Nusgart 40:27
as as you’re driving home. So, so anyway, but and I was with Jack Jack Gibbons, Jack Evans,
Nestor Aparicio 40:38
my other Saint he will come on the show either. Marlo refused to come on the show. I invite them I beg them. You’re there Emissary?
Bob Nusgart 40:46
The Emissary? Well, the yuan. Well, these were guys that I sort of learned from and got into the whole gig here in Baltimore. And they went Baltimore was all about and when I first came to Baltimore and I walked around the Inner Harbor when it was brand new and everything and people were just
Nestor Aparicio 41:09
and we weren’t you and Stan Rapoport, which sent me over to Zynga Barrows at news American. It’s now the Shake Shack. I say to my wife all the time, the Shake Shack moreso than the Chick fil A but the Shake Shack was in Guerreros. It was a Italian joint. And Stan rat before it would send me over to the the harbor place over to the light street pavilion to bring back cheese bread and pizza bread. And I would get I would get fried dough from Anna’s fried dough.
Bob Nusgart 41:42
Or you that you were there when Matt was there, Matt. Gotta forget his last night. Big Guy, Matt Cullen. Now call that calling by column. I
Nestor Aparicio 41:50
didn’t know Matt column. Well, I was here five minutes with him.
Bob Nusgart 41:52
Whoa, okay. Well, Matt was him and saying used to go at it because they were both excellent copy editors and headline writers and so forth. But anything that Zang would write now let me take a look at that it really doesn’t convey the actual spirit of the story. I think I need to change this, you know, and how did
Nestor Aparicio 42:16
we How did a sitcom not exist about its SPORTS NIGHT like with Josh Charles and like, whatever. But like, the fact that they didn’t spit off Oscar Madison, to see who he worked with the fact that Simon didn’t.
Bob Nusgart 42:33
Like, of course, like I said, the first night that I was in Baltimore, I was I was to start work, like on that Monday or whatever. I’m coming into the newsroom as first time I’ve ever been in the news American building. Now I left the Austin American Statesman, which had just built a brand new state of the art building on the Colorado River. immaculate. I come up with a glass Yeah, looking over a river, not you know, Lombardi
Nestor Aparicio 43:01
basically the building the sun built 25 years later with a white thing at the end of a freeway.
Bob Nusgart 43:06
Yeah, that’s now being torn down. Right. So So I come in there. And there’s nobody there yet. Except for Mark cram. sports writer. I’m
Nestor Aparicio 43:17
marksman on the show many times at a Philadelphia chronicle the life of Joe Frazier better than anyone. Mark was impeccable. Writers father was impeccable writer, right,
Bob Nusgart 43:26
great writer. It’s just blood. And so he asked me who I fell on and started getting words come from Austin. And Mark used to have these glasses that he would pair over much like his father. Yeah, that looks like there. Yeah, look right there. And he stares at me. He goes, Why in the hell would you come to a dump like this? I go. Well, I guess that’s a great introduction here for the first starting out your first job your first day at work. Okay.
Nestor Aparicio 43:55
That would be like the beginning. Like, they were like taxi. You know, it was like about like, the Palma, the sports department at the news. America was a sitcom what
Bob Nusgart 44:09
was great is the characters that were there. You could not make them up in reality, because you had the baseball writer, Ron Borgess. Okay.
Nestor Aparicio 44:20
Legend of writing about boxing and football.
Bob Nusgart 44:23
Yes, but he was he covered the Orioles or the NA at that time. Okay. And Ron Borges had the biggest hothead that you could ever imagine. It’s like if you were on his good side, then he was good until you said something and then he would flip in a second and just rip your head off on something. So one night, as as only could happen at the news American. This is when they were building the subway. Okay, so we’re in the middle of the night. All right. And somebody’s working on the subway subway. I had not opened up Yeah, well, they cut the electric somewhere. And everything went out on the whole block. It’s pitch black. Okay. And Marlene. And so he calls up, he says, you know, I’m ready to follow the story. So well, you gotta wait. We have no power. Why don’t you wish? Oh, crap, whatever he’s doing well, I don’t care. I can’t tell you there’s nothing here. Well, how long do I have to wait? How do I know? You know, when the lights come back on? Electricity last week? Just goes off on me, you know, and that’s when I, you know, I have, you know, being an editor, you can, you know, try and talk people off the ledge. And Mike, Marla would be the louder you got the softer he would get? Well, I’m not that way, you know, and I fired back at him, you know, and just sort of shut him down, you know, in that particular instance. And then your great friends after that now, because then he realizes that, oh, he’s going to talk back to me. Yeah. Yeah, don’t give him you know, I’m the one sitting here. Dark too. Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 46:11
Yeah. You guys controlled my very existence, and you endorsed me, and I’m appreciative but, and my wife thinks you love me more than anybody.
Bob Nusgart 46:20
Well, of course, yeah. But, but what amazes me and what the people may or may not realize during that era of, you know, sports journalism in the 80s 90s 2000s until the internet came along, and ESPN and the National start scarfing up people so that you had some of the best writers you know, you hear hear, you know, Borgias even Beto wouldn’t say
Nestor Aparicio 46:54
though, you see Ken Rosenthal in the dugout at the All Star game or in bought me like
Bob Nusgart 46:57
boy, he’s another one you know, Jack Jack hired him when we gave him a game the start and
Nestor Aparicio 47:02
Jack sent me on there. Forget this jack sent me up to cover a capitals, flyers game at the spectrum. And he said to me, you’re gonna meet a guy there young guy there, make sure you say hello to he’s a friend of mine. His name’s Ken Rosenthal. And I went up and I met Ken Rosenthal. And we’re both very young and remember, I was hitting it off and he was writing for the Camden paper covering the flyers and whatever. You do a lot of sports New York guy pen guy, right, like the whole thing. And then went back and I’m like, Hey, Jack, I met that guy. He’s like my age, right? He’s got to be 15 like me right about 1718 River was he’s like, Yeah, I just hired him. He’s gonna start covering the Orioles next week for us. Yeah, I’d like to shim Hedeman though. It’s my first question you know, but I I look I was introduced so I will just say this for you and as a tribute to you, because I got Calvin stadium here. I got John Allen here. We’re Costas we’re doing our 25th anniversary it’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery in conjunction with our friends at window nation 866 90 nation you gave me like this like place in life to be able to do this every time I see Rosenthal or Buster and of Oriole fans hate Buster right like it’s great. Like we work with both of them and when I get such Tim Kirk Kerkorian Mike right, I get such a sense of pride. I mean, even when I see Steven a Smith I’m like, Steven, I used to do my show when I was at Sporting News Radio, my see balding or so all these people in the industry do well and people are it. It really reminds me of the humble beginnings of walking in in 1984 with this dream, to want to do sports. This guy here John John Allen and his his his high school yearbook. It says what are you going to be because he’s an Allen and almond Aparicio. So we’re, Kate says John Allen, you remember this right? Pull? It says rock star. It said he, he said I want to be rock star. And I think I said I wanted to be sports journalist. Right. So so that all these years later that I’m celebrating 25 years of owning a radio station, that the Orioles owner and the Ravens owner so fear me that they won’t let me in. Like they’re saying they they won’t let me in. That’s how much they fear me for truth. And that you live a dream, right? I mean, you changed your dream, you do a mortgage. Isn’t that right? Like, like the newspaper industry is not a dream for anybody anymore. And the way that my dad was pissed at me. Never wanted me to have a radio station,
Bob Nusgart 49:26
luckily for me, is that I realized where the newspaper industry was going back in 2001 2002, and it wasn’t a pretty sight. And you had the internet was coming on Google, Bing, all these things. And you had newspapers that were that was the main media thing. I would literally go home in the morning, or whatever and listen to BHL news. Why don’t you just read the newspaper because we’re doing all of your work? You’re not are reporting anything you’re just we regurgitating? What is it? All of us? Is there. So it’s okay. So it’s it really starts with the sun. And the, and the people that were there. And even, you know, at that particular time, look around, there’s a picture of the newsroom and I just read a story on Atlin day Battlin shows who’s crazy that Gary Gately sent around another writer at the sun. And you realize how much talent was in that newsroom. Also,
Nestor Aparicio 50:37
knowledge now, really institutional knowledge.
Bob Nusgart 50:41
That was the key because you had somebody like David Adler, who had been there for years and who relate back to what Baltimore was in the 60s 70s 80s 90s. I had Dave on the show. Yeah, he was, you know, and these people are great, just like if you had Stedman John. John Kelly, do you see these people? No, I was in
Nestor Aparicio 50:59
fenwicks. Bakery. Do you have you read peach cake? You like peaches? Jen, can you grab me that peach cake over here. I was at Fenwick this morning. And I want to tell you this. This is true. This morning at 8am. I go into Fenwick bakery because I promised dentists Colossus, I’d have peach cake here so I spent spent 60 bucks on peach cake with Al this morning. Hey, Laurie, I got you some peach cake. Alright, so this is this is legit. So I walk into Fenwick bakery this morning. Okay to get this peach cake. If you have you seen anything more beautiful than this? BHK that’s awesome. Okay, so this is peach cake. This is C this is the real this is Baltimore positive spot. This is this is real peach cake. Okay, so I go in to get this peach cake this morning. Jane, can I get a knife, maybe like a good Baker’s knife. I’ll put some sugar on this as well. So I go into Fenwick bakery. My wife is waiting out on Harford road for me. And I’m waiting. They gave me four orders of this and I had a honey dip. So I look up on the wall behind where they were the cook, there’s cookies, and there’s bonds. And I look up and there’s a doorway and above the doorway. There’s this yellowed newspaper. And it says Fenwick is a great place for crumb desserts or crumb pie. And it’s from like 1979 and is Jack Kelly writing about the Fenwick and I’m in there. And so I just said Jack Kelly, because you’re talking about these venerable institutional sort of things that you will never have had in Austin, Texas, and these,
Bob Nusgart 52:35
but these people don’t exist anymore. Because the sun is a shell of what it once was. No, did you see
Nestor Aparicio 52:43
Roderick show? No. All right. So here’s something you’re going to do with your beautiful wife, Ellen. And the two of you are cordially invited and I’m buying Okay, you ready? Okay. So December the December the eighth. A John. You’re on to the suit. It’s December 8. You’re holding December 8. Friday night. Don’t book any rock and roll. Child’s play any that stuff? So we’re Rodricks show? Yeah. Was at the at the Walters not the Walters BMA were cartridges up by Hopkins. His show about Baltimore, his stage show that he did last? Oh, yes. Yeah. Was one of the greatest things I’ve ever witnessed. It was two and a half hours of pure delight. And I ran into Atlin there that night, which is when I invited him to fade Lee’s receipt didn’t make it although he’s in the show. Okay, for six in the show and didn’t make it I took a
Bob Nusgart 53:40
picture you were sick is another one that I lost I
Nestor Aparicio 53:43
had received two weeks ago with Coco’s with baseball with 25th. So Baltimore has all of this and Baltimore has this gym thing of knowledge. And what was in that morgue at the news American and what’s in the heads of every Dan Rodricks and Marty bass and, and Denise Koch and, and Michael, Alaska. And it’s been gifted to me from having, like, just done this with Sylvia badger, or with Dick Irwin, or you with people, right. So Jack Kelly wrote about this peach cake in 1978. And you know what, it’s still gonna be one of the greatest things you’ve ever put on your lips.
Bob Nusgart 54:22
And it’s not from 1978
Nestor Aparicio 54:25
It’s from like, 2023 this morning. It’s fresh as hell. I want you to have a bite. Can I get some play to Costas? Everybody’s having so much fun over here with Calvin and the rock stars Calvin’s great and the authors that I can’t be heavy peach cake so damn good. Yeah, you think? Yeah, right. Right.
Bob Nusgart 54:47
So you Matt was here. A couple of days.
Nestor Aparicio 54:51
Turn your head. Yeah, see that playing goodbye. it’ll disappear. Thank you very much. Jen’s here. So, you know, it’s because of like Baltimore. In Baltimore traditions you come here you get peach cake and season. You get crab anything you want those crab mushroom caps our eating among my favorite thing to today’s for a day for me to celebrate, but I am so grateful for you for my childhood pouring through all of these newspaper clips that I’ve been doing last month. My wife and I have been very emotional lately. It’s really weird getting thrown out by the ravens and the Orioles did you find that to be weird? No me as a kid. Where my heart My spirit are?
Bob Nusgart 55:28
Well, it’s funny. Again, it’s the irony of it all that only only you know that loves these two teams more than anybody else
Nestor Aparicio 55:39
has ever loved anything
Bob Nusgart 55:41
can just piss off the management of both teams. I
Nestor Aparicio 55:46
like Chad steel. Nobody in the world could ever imagine me taking orders from a guy like Chad steel. Can you imagine that? No. I mean, seriously, I work for great. Barely took orders from me great men. Correct. I took Larry Harris from Mike Marlowe from you know John Steadman from Jack Lemmon. My
Bob Nusgart 56:11
firewall. Kathy follows your father fair ball.
Nestor Aparicio 56:17
I learned from all of you, man. I love you. I appreciate you, man. You didn’t wipe things. Like you love me more than anybody. I love you even more now. It’s true. I love you, man. No, I do. I love you so much. You got your peach cake, as you know, is that I’m about you got a crab cake. Acosta’s. Yeah, you live at Burger King Island? Yeah, yeah. Fresh out of the water. Water to table
Bob Nusgart 56:42
water to table. I like that. I don’t think they even use that phrase.
Nestor Aparicio 56:47
So there you go free. I’ll take that down and make next month I’ll make a fortune on that. Maryland tourism
Bob Nusgart 56:52
water table. That’s a good one. You bet you better copyright that one. Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 56:58
That’s, that’s worth the sponsorship. That’s right. Yeah.
Bob Nusgart 57:02
There’d be other places you know, garbage can to table I’ve
Nestor Aparicio 57:05
given you love. I’ve told you how much. It’s 57 minutes into segment anything you want to say before you go plug your mortgage company something?
Bob Nusgart 57:11
Yeah. Bob Yeah, Federal Credit Union. And that go like
Nestor Aparicio 57:15
worst thing for rates and stuff. Well give me a little insider banking thing.
Bob Nusgart 57:19
Okay, I’m gonna get I’m gonna give you a little insider thing. Go ahead. Okay. I just started Lafayette Federal Credit Union, they have probably one of the best most aggressive programs out there right now. It’s I call it a five five arm I call it the five five solution,
Nestor Aparicio 57:36
five and a half percent adjustment could be there. Yeah. Okay.
Bob Nusgart 57:41
Okay. But it’s, it’s an adjustable rate mortgage, you get your initial rate for five years and then a year six as the potential to go and adjust and then when that rates determines it, it’s fixed for the next five years. So there’s one one adjustment in a 10 year period. Not too bad. Get out and get a load of this 100% financing up to a million dollars.
Nestor Aparicio 58:05
So how does someone in my small community this little am radio station get in touch with someone like you like me like that? I don’t want to sit here.
Bob Nusgart 58:14
www dot Robert nascar.com All right. Make it simple. Robert nascar.com
Nestor Aparicio 58:20
If you love wn S T or you’ve ever loved me, it’s this guy’s fault. It’s a really Yes. You Jack Mike. Blame all of you, Jack and Mike.
Bob Nusgart 58:30
They love personally apologize to Brian Billick know the reason why Nestor is here. The reason why he
Nestor Aparicio 58:40
was running the airport. Oh, no.
Bob Nusgart 58:44
No. You know, had some dealings. Okay, fair enough. No. And that’s what he
Nestor Aparicio 58:51
wants me to.
Bob Nusgart 58:52
Why know that?
Nestor Aparicio 58:56
Certainly more than John lately. Anyway, I’m Nestor. He’s Bob. We’re all brought to you by the Maryland lottery in a friendly winter nation. Great job. Oh, geez.
Bob Nusgart 59:07
You know, keep keep doing the stuff.
Nestor Aparicio 59:12
I keep you know what I do? Because he you know, because he Jack was a bob. Trying to think, Robbie. You know, I report the truth. That’s what you taught me to do. I mean, seriously, could I report what
Bob Nusgart 59:26
I taught you? I do know how to do? Don’t screw up. Could I
Nestor Aparicio 59:29
could I open this microphone and lie to people for money for anything? No. Well, there you go. That’s all you need to know. All right, we’re gonna be doing Joe Enoch gets his credit. I call Joe I call Greg Landry from Towson transfers. And I call Bill Cole from coal roofing. About a month ago my wife was out of town with her sister fourth July. As I’m going through all this my 25th anniversary. I really want to make it a big deal. In the era social there’s all this stuff people have never seen it. Hear this letter that I printed in the sun, you were still with the sun in 1998. I put a letter in the sports section about starting the station 25 years ago today, and I shared it today, the letter that I paid $1,100 For this, you know, whatever we paid for the space probably was like 800 bucks, but it wasn’t 50 bucks. So I put that letter in there. And all these years later, you know, going through those newspaper clips, I said, what? I’m going to be famous for fighting with Peter Angelos. I’m going to be famous for getting thrown out by Steve shoddy, because I’m going to make him famous. And I don’t know what else we’ve done. But then I started like looking through all the stuff we’ve done. And every day in my life when I go out somebody says I was in your March in New Orleans. I was free the birds I was there. You’re right. The whiskey Joe’s than we did at the Super Bowl. I bought your book. I was on a road trip. I went here with you. I did this with you. I went to the soccer game with you. I was there the night something happened. Like all of these things that we 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of people and Joe Enoch says idea he said dude, you should do the 25 greatest moments in the history of your company because your company everybody’s had an entree with ravens Orioles, you the station, and I said I’m gonna do that. And then when I started putting together I was forgetting stuff like the night I took Deion Sanders in the party hill station. In his $50,000 mink coat. He walked in and did two and a half hours radioed me as prime time and he brought Cordell stir with Cordell. When I see Cordell. He still talks about it. He said, Me and Dion came over to Parkville with you, man. I’m like yeah, I remember. So that’s my daddy made my top 25 I mean, we’ve got like, so I’m gonna do these stories and I Trent Dilfer cried on the stage at the at the bar before he won the Super Bowl, telling me how much it would mean to him to win the Super Bowl what it would mean that in four weeks later, he goes and wins. So these moments are rare. I mean, the night that David Modell and Brian brought the Lombardi Trophy into the barn and we almost broke our foot road. I mean, like crazy stuff has happened in my life, right? Aren’t Donovan sitting telling his life story with John Buren and I over Schlitz and spam? You know what I mean? Like baloney sandwiches crazy. So I’ve done all this stuff. And I’m gonna feature that one a week, every week, I’ve come up with a 25 greatest things that I think our company has done, and we’re gonna celebrate that and we’re gonna celebrate that for the next six months. And I got that idea from the lottery because they had this 50th anniversary and it’s not like a one day thing. Like we kicked that off right here six months ago, and they’re still we still have these we’re still you might want 100 bucks. It’s number two for you. Number two, yeah, Marlo is number one, you know? I mean, she thinks you love him the most but truly Marlowe
Bob Nusgart 1:02:42
are these are these good numbers or are these the bad numbers?
Nestor Aparicio 1:02:46
This isn’t a McDonald’s promotion. I don’t know who wins I just get the tickets now.
Bob Nusgart 1:02:50
Oh, okay. I thought you had some inside information here.
Nestor Aparicio 1:02:54
I’d lose my press pass if I did that. Yeah. Which one? Mascara is my my mentor my friend. I’ve just given him peach cake for the first time in his life. He’s very happy to know me because of that. I’m wearing my dad Passerini throwback jersey. So you’d recognize
Bob Nusgart 1:03:06
me and he didn’t realize that I would recognize that it was a damn passerine
Nestor Aparicio 1:03:10
look at football here we come Houston. Oh, there’s number one.
Bob Nusgart 1:03:15
Get your pump Phillips that football has what what’s that gets your bum Phillips at
Nestor Aparicio 1:03:19
football has the Oilers the greatest football team we take the ball from goal to goal like no one’s ever seen. We’re in the air we’re on the ground always in control. And when you’re talking Oilers, you’re talking Super Bowl because we’re the Houston all for the sandy Mickey I used to sing that to her all the time Steelers.
Bob Nusgart 1:03:42
The Steelers squashed that one didn’t I got real rock stars here.
Nestor Aparicio 1:03:45
Calvin stayed in place to piano. We’ve put six double A batteries into the piano so it’s going to work. John Allen this year, I grew up with John. He’s a rock star. And he’s one of my best friends. And we’re going to talk about him putting Childsplay back together. They’re going down to Merriweather. And they’re closing down kicks his career as the opening band at Merriweather Post and I’m, I was gonna go to Europe and see see all that week. I canceled everything because I’m just I gotta be here. Okay. I can’t. I can’t I can’t not be at Merryweather. Steve Whiteman saved my voice back in 1999 gave me voice lessons over on the Harford road at the drugstore. Really? Yes, Stephen. I went in the basement. And I was I was I was yelling on the radio. And my voice was like this. And he’s like, you’re doing it wrong. You have to do it from down here. You sing from down. You talk from down here, down here. And he gave me these lessons. And he I’ll tell John about this later, but it was he would say you have to warm up. It’s like It’s like any instrument. You have to warm up. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Me, me do all this stuff. And I started doing that and I stopped yelling into the mic and I just did That headsets and adjusting the headsets 25 years later I’m still here and you can hear my voice
Bob Nusgart 1:05:08
the voice that just won’t be the voice of
Nestor Aparicio 1:05:10
Baltimore there is all right, Bob’s gotta go. It’s been an hour and five minutes. That’s enough. I gotta play some commercials. I am Destro mix Costas. It’s our 25th anniversary for being our guest, Bob NuSTAR will get my first book which is perfectly edited by Kevin Eck. You will also get my second book once you pick him off even more than sophisti Bushati off because it has has typos in it. He’s gonna get a wacko for Flacco sign and to see Joe throw sign and can’t have all the peach cake for Lori. And for Calvin state. I’m Nestor. We’re WNS D back for more from Costas. It’s our 25th anniversary.