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With an emphasis on freedom, money and the American way of life on the line with every election, Leonard Raskin joins Nestor to talk about the real result of this week’s election – the incredibly poor turnout of Marylanders at the polls when their uniquely earned right to vote wasn’t exercised.


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Nestor J. Aparicio, Leonard Raskin

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:01

Welcome Home w n s t TAS Baltimore and Baltimore positive we are positively into what a week man Preakness Oreos home all week running between the raindrops, ravens put a schedule together which back when I was a real media member, this was like a sort of a high holy holiday to dictate whether I could come to your wedding, birth of your child Bar Mitzvah, whether I could be the best man at your wedding. I mean, I had all sorts of obligations that I felt obligated. I miss my buddy’s wedding in Mexico to see if Steve Smith get. So all of this goes into the schedule. And oh, by the way, they’re running a little race on a Saturday at an old hilltop. Bob has been on the show this week. Donna Brothers has been on the show this week. And then we had an election on Tuesday, I stopped all of these interviews with Kenny rice and Deke Gerardi and all these racing people to run out and vote where nobody voted. I mean, it was nobody voting when I voted right. They did give me a beautiful sticker with a Key Bridge on it, which I’m appreciative I’m getting credit West for that, or whoever did it was his department. That’s cool. It was nice. Whenever they spent that was worth it because my wife noticed that it was nice. And anytime I think the key bridge is nice for me come from Thunder. But there was an election, there was some aftermath. And you know, this guy’s not my political analyst nor what I wanted to be yours at this point. But we are gonna have some fun he is. He is the follower of the American Dream lab. She helped me with my taxes and situation literally in less than 24 hours I’ve needed. Raskin global and someone like Linda Raskin in my life is trying to just like David Rubenstein to people make me a grown up at 55. We walk him in on Friday, by the way, Leonard, I know you’re always bugging me for crab cakes and like where to get an Oreo and I’m bogging you you want to come to the Oreo game, you’re gonna come? We’ve moved the crab Derby from Wednesday to Friday because of the weather. The crabs don’t like the rain, you go away. The PETA people called and threatened the fate of these people that they should have mechanical crabs.


Leonard Raskin  01:59

Oh crap.

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:00

Here we go. I know that that would strike that we hit them right in the heart of your Republican donkey and elephant right where they left on Friday we’ve moved the crab Derby because it’s an outdoor Plaza event. We’ve moved it to Friday. And by the way, in conjunction with the fact we were already doing the radio show. They’re already given away Pac Man scratch offs in the Maryland lottery already talking about freshwater Liberty pure and our newest sponsor in Jiffy Lube, multi care sponsoring us on an annual basis. And we’re appreciative of that, because that’s what we need around here to power the engine of freedom and free speech. And the they once called me Radio Free Dundalk. I’m now going to call myself Radio Free Venezuela. I have to embrace my Hispanic ness to prove that I’m Hispanic. How are you?

Leonard Raskin  02:42

Are you good with you? Life is good man. Life is good. Election man. Like

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:48


unlikely friends in the real world because we talked about politics, we hate each other. Or maybe we love each other more. I’m talking to your sister about politics and your family doesn’t agree with you. So it’s fine.

Leonard Raskin  02:59

It’s everywhere. Everybody’s got their own agenda and their own beliefs and likes and dislikes. And I just, but no better time to talk in the day after election. I love election night. You know, I was talking with the boys home. And we were sitting watching election results. And it’s just always fun to

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:15

share your politics or has he gotten liberated? While he’s

Leonard Raskin  03:19

he shares my politics for the most part, but he’s gotten a little bit, a little bit of touch a liberal, he fought, he fought it well, for four years. You


Nestor J. Aparicio  03:27

know, what’s crazy is that you’re gonna tell me the touch of liberal and I’m going to chuckle at you. But what is amazing is it doesn’t matter what your politics in this in this leans toward you being wrong and me being right politically toward every generation being more liberal than the last one. And then

Leonard Raskin  03:45

you know, what was it Churchill? I don’t know the exact quote, I’ll get it wrong. People will know exactly what he says it’s revolt period. Yeah. But but he said if you’re, if you’re I don’t know if it was I think it was Churchill, whoever the hell said it Roosevelt, whatever. If you’re a Republican before the age of 40, you have no heart. If you’re a Democrat after the age of 40, you have no brain.

Nestor J. Aparicio  04:08

That’s nice. I’m gonna get you No, that’s not even. That’s not even me. I was expecting far worse from you know,

Leonard Raskin  04:13


it’s a famous quote, and I got it, probably 98% Correct. And I don’t remember who the hell said it. But you can look it up because it’s a classic, traditional, you know, big old quote,

Nestor J. Aparicio  04:24

with you as you being a sponsor, and me being appreciative of your sponsorship, and you handling my money, and you know, and you having a golf tournament for charity, two weeks from now we’re going to promote. But with through all of that, I’m going to be flipping with you in the next 20 minutes. We’re going to talk about politics. Yeah, yes. Thanks. First, before we turn the mic on, you are going through results. And I was going through results. Literally my wife woke up this morning kind of forgetting like yeah, like, hey, coffee, and she said, Brandon one. Yeah. And I’m like, Yeah, you

Leonard Raskin  04:51

know, and the people of Baltimore said, the people in the city and it wasn’t here’s the thing that blows me away and people talk the media clock school. walks and and people vote. Now what was interesting or is interesting to me is very few people vote.

Nestor J. Aparicio  05:08

No votes. The first thing you really the


Leonard Raskin  05:11

primary, I looked at the city numbers and you see the small number of people that Brandon got votes from 33,000 was the number and beat Sheila right by however many it was the point is, nobody votes. There’s got to be got to be more eligible voters in the city than that unless everybody’s trying to avoid jury duty. That makes

Nestor J. Aparicio  05:35

you a really interesting political analyst this that the first thing that you bring up isn’t is turnout trolling. Last also Brooks one Where’s larry hogan? Where’s Robin? Faker? Oh, Johnny was running against. Nobody came classic, you know? So like, so So all of this, right? So, and Trump got some votes and robins people voted for Robin Ficker? What’s wrong with you people, but nonetheless, people

Leonard Raskin  06:00

voted for John Doe, people voted undecided undeclared or uninterested, I think more uninterested than anything. And everybody, everybody, here’s the thing I love all the pundits, again, all the talking heads, all the politicians, this is the most important election in our history. But the problem is now it’s like the boy that cried wolf. Every election we have now is the most important election in our history. And it’s nonsense. They’re all important. And they’re all irrelevant. Because, see, here’s the thing that I believe. And you and I have talked republican, democrat politics, that’s fine. That’s that is what it is. But I am firmly in the camp, that we have a political class. And then we have the public. And I don’t care what party is in charge, the federal deficit has not gone down. tax revenues are through the roof, the government’s bringing in more money than it ever has. And as far as I’m concerned, it’s theft. I hear people say that if the Trump tax cuts are made permanent, that there’s a $5 trillion, whatever nonsense cost of that plan, and I say cost to who Kosta who well cost to the government? Well, the government doesn’t have any money, they don’t produce anything, they steal our money and use it for what whoever’s in power wants to use it for. So to me, the only difference between a Democrat and a Republican in office is whether or not you like, what they spend the money on, because neither of them are going to stop taking it. Nobody’s going to come in and say, you can have your money back now, from a purely conservative standpoint, not Republican, forget Republican conservative perspective of what the Constitution says. And what the government does, the government does dramatically more at the federal level than they were ever intended to do. And it is so bloated and so big, that one of my favorite lines next is when there’s a snowstorm, and DC or Maryland, the government shuts down because of the weather. And here’s what they say, here’s what you hear on the radio or TV that you watch. non essential employees need not report? Well, I don’t know about you. But in my business, I have no non essential employees. If I have non essential employees, that’s called unemployment. That’s a drain on my return. And so business does not operate with non essential employees. Those are things that are called layoffs. The government never lays anybody off. It is so bloated, the bureaucracy is so big, the government does so much more than it was ever intended to do. Our founders are rolling over in their graves. And so I don’t care Republican or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter to me. The thing is, they’re all taking our money. They’re they’re absorbing capital, and we have three, if you had a pie, let’s make this a pie. There’s three parts of the pie. You’ve got the government, business and the consumer. There’s only so much money, okay, now they can print more, that’s bad thing. They can put more money in the system, that’s a bad thing. But when the government takes more business, and consumers have less, it’s very simple. So you and I try to get ahead. We try to produce our American dream. We try to have wealth and do the things we want to do for our families and charities and our future. And the more we try to get the more government takes it away. They tax it, they confiscate it. There’s all kinds of fees and charges and rules and regulations, sort of like dealing with a bank. Yeah, they all are Ticketmaster that. Yes. See, that’s the corporate side. They’re trying to get their share too. But what happens when they get too big? Well, Bill Gates was famous in the late 80s 90s. He was very famous in industry for not having any lobbyists in Washington. He had nobody on his behalf at the company dedicated to lobbying. And then suddenly there were antitrust lawsuits brought. And there were big rules and regulations put on. And Microsoft lost a fortune, a fortune in problems. And then suddenly they had the biggest lobbyists, payroll in industry, and it all stopped. So you got the corporate class, paying the ruling class, to keep the ruling class out of their wallet. The consumer doesn’t have lobbyists like that. They just get trounced. And whenever you hear

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:42


credit cards 3% know that Yeah,

Leonard Raskin  10:45

well, why are credit cards 23%? Because they’re in Delaware, and who ran Delaware? guy named Joe Biden. Why can’t you file bankruptcy and knock out your student loans if you’re bankrupt? Because Delaware and Sallie Mae are run by this guy whose name was Joe Biden says

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:03

you like Delaware when you get your tax structure there, though? That’s right, their corporate

Leonard Raskin  11:06

brilliant, its corporate and creditor brilliant in Delaware. So as Nevada, so as Wyoming, there’s some other states, south, South Dakota, there are other states that are also like that, but Delaware has a very favorable corporate state because they have great state law. And, and then, you know, suddenly we have a student loan crisis. So what is Joe do becomes President lets all the rest of us pay for all the rich people, student loans, who, who has 10s of 1000s, or hundreds of 1000s of dollars in student loans. Now your mechanic, not the guy that owns wn S T, not the guy that’s your plumber, not the guy that your roofer, it’s your lawyer, because they went to law school, it’s your doctor who went to med school and couldn’t afford it, and borrowed 100,000 $200,000. And then Joe says, We’re gonna forgive everybody, I’ll

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:58

push back on that, you know, a lot of student loans. I’m a Dundalk guy who had a nice ride because I went to community college and I didn’t have student debt. And I and I worked at the but who does, but I had a lot of friends that went to Towson or Loyola and wound up with 50 grand, that was tough for them. And

Leonard Raskin  12:14

what did they do?

Nestor J. Aparicio  12:17

That didn’t write a job that didn’t come with the promise that even currently, right, you should pay that situation with your kid to college right now. Right? It is interesting to see what kind of dough he would make the support the 60 grand a year cost to send in this guy. I don’t know what it even cost, right? No, you’re right, I guess $60 to send him to school. But you’re a guy of means if you’re my dad, my dad could have never have done that. And I’m gonna borrow,

Leonard Raskin  12:44


then you got to borrow for it if you want to go. So now you borrow. And you know, you don’t go that’s not going now what am I doing something else. Now you’re a plumber or electrician, roofer or you start a business, you’re an entrepreneur, you don’t have to go to college to make a living in this world, you can make a really good living without ever

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:04

going with that. And I got two billionaires here in my prime place that you know, seek to silence me anyway. So you know, so the political side of who the big guys write checks, but my point is,

Leonard Raskin  13:18

who’s getting their loans paid off? It’s not plumbers, it’s not electricians. It’s doctors and lawyers. Okay, they have big debt,

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:26

and anybody who had the dream of going to college and came to me and I did my thing, and it’s because I went to the School for the Arts and their job. Right.


Leonard Raskin  13:37

Now, I’m an art teacher, or a tattoo artist, or a mural artist, or something, and I’m not making enough to pay off these loans. And

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:45

I’m not picking on the amount of an art sky like, Oh, I

Leonard Raskin  13:47

got it, either. Often.

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:49

I often wonder when I hear young people, but here’s my thing here. Hang on. Leonard had an intern who was a college Person A couple months ago. Yeah. And I got I got an education and I, my friend John della Volpe was on with Jon Stewart earlier this week. He’s a he’s a Facebook friend. He’s an expert on Gen Z. You know, like, what your care will put up with him what he won’t and how old farts like us. We don’t hang on. ballgame. You know, old baseball games and thinking we’re cool. We’re not the next generation. We need to understand. I guess it’s my point. Yeah. And I hear you know, I’ve had young people say, I’m in college to become a journalist. I’m going here to be and I’m thinking, I would never tell you as a kid, because when you get out you’re going to be dealing with Mr. Rubinstein’s people and Mr. Bashar these people, and they’re going to excommunicate you unless you’re on their side of the fence. And you’re going to have you know, being a journalist is not something I would want for my child. Nobody wants for himself at 39 at this point, I’m watching my roll through but I watch all these people aspire. So when I say arts, that can mean I guess weaving it so but here’s that is a vocation that you have to yes, if they sell you a bunch of bourgeois about your English degree, then you get out and there’s no job for you.

Leonard Raskin  15:10

But here’s the problem. It’s because you can’t get rid of the debt. The reason they can lay the debt on you like a chain around your neck like an anchor, is because it is free and easy to borrow that money. You can borrow $200,000 to go to college, go try borrowing $50,000 to start a business. Good luck, right? Good luck. But why? Because if you borrow the 50 Grand to start the company and failed, what do you do? You walk in the bank eats it. You can’t walk from a student loan. It is non dischargeable in bankruptcy. So the schools can charge all they want the government and banks can lend all they want. And it’s all government backed because Joe Biden says you can’t get rid of it and bankruptcy law passed when he ran Delaware. Okay, here’s my point. If the bank had skin in the game, if the school was on the hook, you make me this promise, mica that I can get an arts degree $200,000. And then I can get a job to pay off my loans. And if I can’t, I can come back to you as the manufacturer of that degree and say you owe me money. You can’t do that. I go to the bank and say, I’m going to discharge my debt and bankruptcy. You can’t do that. So the government putting its hand on that scale, has cost Americans fortunes in kids who can’t pay off their debt because they didn’t get the job. They were promised. And colleges laugh all the way to the real estate world. Because guess what, you show me a college that doesn’t have a crane on its campus that isn’t building more dorms and more buildings. And I’ll show you a failing institution. They are not education centers. They are real estate companies hedge funds disguised as colleges.

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:10

I see now we’re agreeing

Leonard Raskin  17:13

around free money being poured into them by banks and the government to screw people that don’t know any better. I


Nestor J. Aparicio  17:20

keep saying to myself, even if I had means as you have to send your child to school, because you’ve worked hard to be able to do that. There has to be the sensibility of like, what are you going to do when you get out?

Leonard Raskin  17:30

That’s right. That’s right. And how you plan back?

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:35

The whole system isn’t flawed, horrible. Tomorrow. I mean, so So let elections here for oh, yeah, sure.

Leonard Raskin  17:43


Let’s talk. Let’s talk what happened here. So

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:45

we started with me the final here’s the thing, good. Here’s the thing that I didn’t listen, well this week. I want to know

Leonard Raskin  17:50

you’re doing great. Here’s the thing on the elections, in my opinion, my humble opinion. Marylanders stood up and said Democrat Marylanders stood up and said to David drone, you keep telling us that you’re spending your money on the election, you’re not taking any money from anywhere else. And you outspent Angela, also Brooks 10 to one 60 million of your money to 6 million of her money. And hers was raised by grassroots knocking on doors, kicking down tables, and excuse me asking people for money. And yours was I wrote the checks and nobody can say I was bought and paid for. And the citizens of Maryland and the Democratic Party said, dude, $60 million.

Nestor J. Aparicio  18:34

What are you doing that for you who got rich from that money? Because we never talked

Leonard Raskin  18:37

about that commercials, the producers or commercial DHL. WJC

Nestor J. Aparicio  18:40

Fox 45. Yeah, Facebook, Facebook and other local local companies took you know, all of this money dad’s could have been 60. Guys, like you don’t think a million apiece that happened to That’s right. It didn’t happen that way it happened. So like, to my point, they go out and do all this grassroots to give the money to Hearst Corporation. That’s right, whoever Westing I don’t even know who the hell,

Leonard Raskin  19:05

whoever it is to get them to say it’s a media play. Exactly. That’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  19:10


my point. And people have press credentials, and I don’t I own an FCC. Yes. It’s just like they do an answer to the government to serve the public with

Leonard Raskin  19:19

you 100%. And so, so I think Maryland or Democrats said, Wait a minute, we want a GAO who’s fighting for the citizens of the Democratic Party. We don’t want a guy that owns liquor stores, telling us how great he is because he’s rich, and combined thinks he can buy an election.

Nestor J. Aparicio  19:37

Let me say something nice about David Trump.

Leonard Raskin  19:40

A good guy. I don’t know him yet.


Nestor J. Aparicio  19:41

I got it. Well, that this plays right into a good story. Okay, so So hang with me here. Yeah, I’ve never I don’t know much about David throne. I’ve never met him. I’ve seen the signs in his district when I’ve driven West. You know, I Yeah, sure. So so. And you know, to Google him like Angela alsobrooks. A lot of my friends support Got her through parties for her different things. And I tried to get both of them on and I failed. I mean there are people never really got back to me right. So I’m not, you know, no offense but like, I’m only going to ask three different times and yeah, you know, and maybe Angela would come on now Larry Hogan, same thing. Just you know, Tom Cal so everybody knows that. I’ve had Tom Kelso on us Maryland stadium authority. He’s running Hogan something came that I don’t see it wrong. That’s doing something with Larry. He’s very connected to Larry. We’re working on getting larry hogan on so I’m I’m hoping to have them both on and, and I I suspect I will, but I’ve never met Angela alsobrooks. Larry Hogan did my vam no larry hogan. Well sure agree with Larry Hogan politically. I thought the military ads were really be you know, like me, you know, like dude, and I don’t know my skin color not but I’m Hispanic. My people came here from another and I point that out when I do I get called names. But But I don’t swim across the Rio Grande. I don’t mind my father came here sort of my brother certainly didn’t come here the absolute you know, we know like, Okay, people come here under all sorts of circumstances. They come here for a better life. Oh, I

Leonard Raskin  21:09

get that and asylum asylum has its has its value, but invasion is a little too much like millions and millions of people walking in.

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:16

But you know, what if your larry hogan had been the governor of the state and you’re trying to give to people, you know, the military garb at the border and standing next to the machine like I don’t need all that. It’d be a good senator. Well be a Senator for six months. What do we have? Listen, Larry will sit with me if he’s as honorable right? He

Leonard Raskin  21:40


is. We got five months for him to beat to beat.

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:42

I have no reason to be honorable other than the last time I saw him. He said I already did your show last year. Okay. It’s literally last words out of Larry Hogan’s mouth today. Well, it’s time to do it this year because General Election is running right. And I get to ask him about why he felt that commercial would be attractive to me and my wife. But nonetheless, I’ll do all of that. But Trump, he’s no longer in this. So let’s start right. I ran into him at St. Louis. So this gives me a chance to say that the grab Derby moved from Wednesday to Friday, we’re going to be failing Have you been in new families yet?

Leonard Raskin  22:13

I have not been to the to the market bending to new Lexington market yet I’ve been to the market but not since there is no front now with the jacket. It’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  22:20

it’s really lovely. And you can see the stadium it’s three blocks away. It come by get a crab cake, a beer. But so we’re doing the crab races Friday, but last Thursday night. This was one of the most beautiful things Leonard. Bill Devine has been battling some he’s, you know, in his 90s. He’s battled some health issues. He had a surgery, like major surgery three weeks ago. He had not been in his new store. And they wheeled him in grace usually good. So he got to see it. With 400 people there the whole market was shut down was VIP kind of thing. Yeah. And BJ surhoff who’s a part of the crab thing I talked to him and a lot of listeners of mine and friends. It wasn’t like a celeb. Don Mohler and his wife, beautiful wife, Linda, people were there, right? And we’re mingling and we’re having some food they served as too much food and you know, it was all that and I looked up and I was literally was talking to BJ sir off and having like, a crab cake. My wife said, hey, that’s David, Sharon. And Dutch had given like a little speech, but nobody could hear it because the PA wasn’t good. And I know dotchin Yeah, sure. So I want that you’ll love this. You’re just gonna love this you Mr. Rubenstein representatives can love this too, because they’re listening now. I I went over to Dutch and just gave him the fake Dutch how are you? And I was like really looking to introduce myself to David Trump, right. And they didn’t have food and they weren’t eating and they were just talking to two of them. And I went over and I said Hey, David, I’m Nestor Aparicio. First I’m a Venezuelan and you had a poll are when people said ASA will pop it are that I loved that I bought in Miami and his stores, stores were in Fort Lauderdale. So like, I always got my Venezuelan beer in your Florida store. I’m appreciative of that joint place in the world outside of Caracas America that I could get it so I love it. So God says to him, the thing that I would love that if I died today and it were on my tombstone, and I would credit Dutch Ruppersberger, do you ever get a statue built when I’m gone like your envelope or Van Gogh? they ever do that for me do it and Dundalk if you do at some point mall if you’ve got a bowling alleys but underneath of it dodge says to David Tron who has no idea who I am and I have no idea and I’m not impressed. I just want to get him on the show which means representative Dutch says to him elbows me says he’s real Ballmer. Literally that’s all he said. elbowed him and said he’s real ball. There. You got that. And I said, dots. Hang on a minute. I’m gonna grab my wife and I just want to bring her over here and have you say that to David tro. Now the not winner of the you know did a Senate Senate primary but nonetheless, that was the nicest thing anybody’s ever said to me. Berger introducing me, you know, guy he’s politically trying to aid right as he’s real bottom. So if somebody were to say to David Reubens, a he’s real ball. You know, like that’s all I want people to say he’s


Leonard Raskin  25:19

right. So let’s get into it. Let’s get into it number hang on let’s get into it number you’re ready go ahead, go ahead. This is I find this amazing. I just looked this up in 1789. Okay, a senator in the United States government got a $6 a day per diem while in sessions $6 a day. That was from 1789 to 1815. In 1855, they made $3,000 A year 3000 A year. In 2014, a US senator makes $174,000 a year. Okay. Explain to me as as a capable individual business owner, who invest money in his business to get a rate of return, to spread news and information. And to have a life for you and your family that you want for your future. why anyone would spend $61 million of their own money to get a job that pays $174,000 a year. I don’t understand the maths. Can you help me with that? Well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:36

I mean, that’s for him to explain. He didn’t win. So you know what I mean? Like so

Leonard Raskin  26:40

here’s my thing. There’s something about power. There’s something about fame. There’s something about the opportunity, I believe, when you become a senator, to make a fortune in your family in your life. And what I see is there are a lot of senators that come and go in Washington, because they can’t stand when they get there. What’s going on these days. It’s really tragic. Public service is not what it was. Well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:08


I mean, I was gonna run for mayor and under the circumstances that Sheila was going to win expressly Sheila I believe when I went to bed Monday night was going to win Tuesday night when I wake up and Brandon won. I don’t good, bad. I get along. With it, I mean, I offer

Leonard Raskin  27:24

time and I agree, but I still say I am thrilled with the limited number of voters who came out in Baltimore City and said we don’t want to put a convicted criminal back in the seat of government. They did that in Washington DC with a guy named Marion Perry didn’t work out so well. I don’t care I know she’s paid her restitution I get it. I think it should disqualify you from the seat in a criminal conviction not overturned not on appeal. Not not a hit job. A criminal conviction for something she did which was blatantly terrible. Although small, and that makes it even more terrible. I was talking to somebody about this a couple of weeks ago and they said My God if you’re gonna steal and get caught at least Steal a Million dollars don’t steal a couple 100 of gift cards.

Nestor J. Aparicio  28:20

Yeah, it is and I had her on and she’s much more charming than the media part like and and I still think in a lot of minds right she was stupid but I don’t disagree with you that I would not have pulled the lever right and I think part of it and again I think some people abstained just said I don’t like either and that you’re that I can’t vote for winners I’m not going to vote for I mean that’s like me right now with Angelo some Ashati lock in the ad like neither one can be a winner for me like you’d say pick one or the other like I’m appalled by the concept of it right?

Leonard Raskin  28:57

These are my choices is not good. So for me we’ve got a presidential election coming up like that.


Nestor J. Aparicio  29:02

The amazing part Leonard and I sell marketing for a living and dare I would say to any of my sponsors right why Xbox whatever that it’s it works or it doesn’t work are getting the word out. Here’s the thing. That’s amazing. David Jones spent his 60 million all these people spent all of this money Yep. Saying please support me, US my party. F Joe Biden, FBI Trump, right. Let’s go go. Figure I love Trump come support me. I’m pro Biden. I’m anti this I love also Brookside that any of that all that I’ve done, I’ve given the hundreds of hours to politics here in the last six months. The amazing part. All the ads every ad that come in every frickin text. Oh my god, stop effing. That’s the best part of today, actually. Yes, yes. So all of this stuff goes on. And I walked into where I voted. And I got applause when I walked in like literally because I looked like I was the First one that had been there and 30 minutes 45 minutes away and I went out we don’t want was in and out and no one there. Parked, no one in no one out. I didn’t see it’s like it was a private voting place. Same here same hand, and I’m a mailer and whatever, but I put it on the calendar and wanted to go do it right. I wanted to physically do it not because I believe Donald Trump has screwed up the US postal system because he might pray he has or not, because I believe they will count but I don’t believe any of that. I just wanted to go vote. And even when I got to, like you want digital or paper and I’m like, give me paper. I want paper. And I don’t know what and then I’m not thinking why I’m like, Let’s guess what I’m used to when I’m here. I

Leonard Raskin  30:39

chose the digital see how it works? Why got

Nestor J. Aparicio  30:41

me the hell out of the office to go vote. Right, right. It felt good to me. Well, he felt bad to me when I got there. And my voting experience was Tumbleweed and then I woke up in the morning and said nobody voted I go back to what you said. So all of these texts, all of this brush all of this media all this conversation all of these debates already came in oh the you whatever corruption and corruption were everything. 60 million of this or 6 million of that whatever all go into TV hill all go into like all of that. And then the activation is we didn’t sell any bobbleheads. We didn’t even sell any pizza. Like what we like what happened that that’s really the story is that Khamees are the team did their own thing

Leonard Raskin  31:26


different and dress rights. You know, people come here from all over the world and can’t believe this opportunity to vote for who you want. Not who you have to. Yeah, and yet people don’t get out and do it. They bitch people bitch and complain a lot. But they don’t go out when it matters and do anything about it. And then they keep squawking I say to people, if you didn’t vote, I don’t want to hear what you have to say.

Nestor J. Aparicio  31:52

handle your money. He’s asking global we just got to follow me to do any baseball. We didn’t do any like pregnant until Preakness all week. I bought baphuon. I’m, I’m doing baseball, we have the NFL schedule coming out. So we’ll do that next week. You and I but also on the political side. Was there anything that I’m sort of shocked that Sheila didn’t win a shot blows my mind voted.

Leonard Raskin  32:12

I also look at the week before, the week before we had early voting, you know, and think about all the money that has to be spent to set up the places and get the people there. And the machines and the the electricity and the time everybody a chance and nobody then right and we had less than 5% of the people came out for early voting and precious few more on the actual election day. It’s astonishing. People take this country and their rights and their privileges for granted so much that it’s become the norm not to vote rather than to vote and that is a sad commentary on our population. It’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  32:53

not good. It’s not good. It’s exactly right. I don’t care Democrat Republican and everywhere I go misinformed, ill informed or willfully ignorant or willfully uninformed. Just


Leonard Raskin  33:04

a hugely ignorant population. Yeah, let the please let

Nestor J. Aparicio  33:07

you know. It scared the hell out of me when I wrote the second ravens book and I went down to the beach. And these are people with purple castles and purple everything. And they didn’t say to me, I’m not interested in the Ravens or I don’t like you or I don’t like Brian pillock or I didn’t like John Harbaugh, or Joe, if they said to me, I don’t read books. Right. And that was a black, white universal, male, female as a matter Oh, this Raven fans, this was Raven, Raven, and I wrote a brush expressly give them more color information back down on something they love. But it was a book and they don’t read books. And that freaked me out. And it freaks me out every time I bring John Eisenberg on or, you know this week I had an author named Dan Schlosberg on he covered to Hank Aaron, you know, author. Yeah, Tim Wendell, who was a baseball author forever wrote all of these great baseball books. Nobody cares. Look here, like books, authors learning, it’s important for every and I know, listen on the money side of things. This is one of your pitches is they? And to me and you saw this in action, we got together with our account the other night, you me, my wife and our team we have we have a financial team? Absolutely me. So it’s a good plug for you as well. And I promise to pay all my bills. But that you would put together a team that so we could sort of get this thing, right? Yes, so many people make the mistake of thinking, guessing worrying. I’m one of those guys, I am smart enough and old enough to know and I said this to Joe, I’ll never It’s Chinese literature it and Bashaud he once said something really smart to me and I don’t want to like totally quote it. But I’ll give you though. Yeah, sure. The gist of it is that you’re never going to and I’m completely that’s okay. motorizing this but if you don’t play that It’s hard and it’s a hobby. Don’t think it’s a vocation like, that’s right, turn your if you’re if you’re good at football, give your money to someone else because someone else is can professionally do that in the same way you want a dentist, a doctor. That’s right, don’t think that you can handle your own teeth. Nobody believes. But they believe they can do their own money. They believe absolutely things that they’re absolutely, truly expert on. And I think one of the real parts that you know you’re a grown up is knowing what you don’t know. And then turning that over to people like Joe and Joe sitting there, when you pick the widget of the EBIT, DTA and the big 50. And I’m like, dude, dude, just you know, math. And I understand that if I bring in an extra $100,000 of revenue this year, 25 to 33% of its going out the back door in this state in this situation, and you’re going to tell me how we’re going to send that to the state. And we’re just going to write a check. And I don’t need it all explained to me because I really am challenged to understand it in the same way. That’s right, that some folks are really challenged to understand the infield fly rule spin rate, but they just don’t want to know that they just want to

Leonard Raskin  36:05

just want to watch the game and see the score. Right? It’s watch. Chicks dig the long ball. Yeah.

Nestor J. Aparicio  36:12


They don’t need to read the form at the racetrack, betting on the race, and that the horse dad is great. But there is your analogy. They don’t have any colors. They don’t know anything about the sport. They’re betting against experts that’s read the form in odds. And they’re there. There’s a

Leonard Raskin  36:30

way or there’s a chance they share. There’s a book. It’s called The Wisdom of Crowds. There you go. And the the betting window is is one of the classic wisdom of crowds, the odds are there for a reason. The knowledgeable bet on the favorites. That’s how they become the favorites. The long shots are there because they don’t usually win. Now, should you take a flyer on one? Sure, go ahead. But more often than not closer to the Favorites will win the race because they’re better horses and people that no no, no. Winner,

Nestor J. Aparicio  37:04

the favorite wins 30% of the time.

Leonard Raskin  37:07

There you go, what I heard last week, and any given day, there’s going to be an upset so 18 to one and the derby was a pretty good get.


Nestor J. Aparicio  37:13

Tell them what you do in handling money because I we do a nice little plug. So we do want to make sure I don’t think you’re

Leonard Raskin  37:20

a business owner. When you’re a business owner, we help you put a board of directors or board of advisors together. To make sure that when you understand how the widgets are made, you can focus on making the widgets and have a team of people around you to help you understand all the rest of what you need to know about the profit when it comes in from the widget sales. And too many business owners are see everything CEO CIO CFO CEO, oh my god run field run every part of their business. And they’re also still buying the paperclip staples. And you need people that do that that are better than you at doing it. And you need a professional team around you to help you strategize what to do and how to grow and how to be in the future. An entrepreneur and a business owner with success, most business owners get into business because they love something, they have a passion and they turn it into a vocation as you were saying about the shotty they turn the passion into a vocation and then they generate revenue and then the revenue grows and then they don’t know what the heck to do next. And they either stay stuck at a certain level or they grow when they grow they then don’t know what to do. And as you said you got to put a team of people around you that are expert at it to help you go to the next level you know someone wants said you can’t get where you want to go by doing the things that got you to where you are you have to do something different take a next step and that next step might be bigger harder, but you can’t keep doing what you’re doing and expect to get anywhere different. So we help people get to the different we help them to get to the bigger better. And we help people have their American dream to have the success they want the life they want and let their job or their business be a tool for that rather than all of that and that’s that’s what it’s about man we help people handle their money to do that.

Nestor J. Aparicio  39:07

Let Raskin is reskin global I’m wearing the shirt here if so um you’re gonna do some baseball soon or what’s what’s happening here Yeah,

Leonard Raskin  39:16


well got a little business trip coming up we got a little business travel coming up but we’ll be back and and I’m not a 65 degree rainy Oriole day guy. I’m not that dedicated

Nestor J. Aparicio  39:26

92 degree. No, not not either. But I was two weeks ago we had time

Leonard Raskin  39:31

right? It was a little crazy weather snafu. I am a sunny ad. sit out there and enjoy the game or a nice ride a Saturday evening. nice breeze blowing through the park. Enjoying the lemonade, watching the O’s that’s my thing. Soon enough,

Nestor J. Aparicio  39:51

I’m trying to figure my way back in in in certain circumstances and letter to smiling at that Mr. Writing gotta go to writing a letter to Mr. Rubenstein gotta go direct soon. Yeah. Yeah, I’m gonna have to write or columnist it’s time and a nice letter.


Leonard Raskin  40:10

I don’t know what your people are telling you. I don’t know what your people are telling you. But here’s who I am and what’s going on. Let’s talk. Let’s break bread.

Nestor J. Aparicio  40:15

Yeah, I, I’m trying,

Leonard Raskin  40:18

I’ve got Scott to show. He’s got a show on Bloomberg TV, to be a guest on his show.

Nestor J. Aparicio  40:25


You think that you think

Leonard Raskin  40:27

for a half hour, then you can interview him? Tell me tell me what to be sure.

Nestor J. Aparicio  40:32

We wouldn’t see that as equitable, but that’s fine. But it would be a question for him.

Leonard Raskin  40:38

Right? It’s an ask. Well, no, I don’t know the man. If I did, I’d already called him for you.


Nestor J. Aparicio  40:43

The most amazing thing is if he sat with me, I would have an hour it would be the best hour conversation he’s ever had publicly because it would be about not about what he thinks of outfielders or how he felt about my cousin. You know, I want to know what his plan is. I want to know what are you doing here? Like what and then follow up, you spray it with a script, not him? Misters questions to his handler? No, like literally sit and say, Why do you love Baltimore? How did you get into this? Who called you? What are you doing with John Angelo’s last summer and telling everybody that you weren’t involved and telling people in the media? I don’t know if he’s gonna answer. What you’re gonna get into the national staying with leonsis, what happened there? And tell me about your business. And do you? What do you own? How did you get rich with his Carlyle that Tell me Tell the people in Dundalk about this, who haven’t Googled you? And don’t watch Bloomberg News? And you know, what, don’t read books?

Leonard Raskin  41:30

That might, he might answer some of those. I’m sure I’ll answer some of those. And some of them will tell you can’t talk about but but the idea is you gotta get you gotta have that. What are you gonna do with the $600 million? What’s the right it’s worth? It’s worth the conversation important?

Nestor J. Aparicio  41:43

Was that in the deal to get the John Angeles thing? You know, that’s all. That’s it.

Leonard Raskin  41:48


I’m with you. I’d call him if I knew him. And

Nestor J. Aparicio  41:51

here’s the one thing I would tell his people if they were listening, yeah, because no one listens. But everybody hears everyone here. Yeah, exactly. You’re catching on. You’re catching on. The other thing I would say is I am on the understanding that he doesn’t really know a lot of he doesn’t want to talk about Cal Ripken or Scott Erickson or the big loss to you know, Benitez given up the home run the Fernandez or you know, how Willie Stargell in 79 made him feel, or was he at the vet in 83 with me, because he probably wasn’t because my understanding is if I sat in really caught Baseball, baseball baseball with him is he’s a limited vernacular to discuss spin right? So so you want I’m saying baseball, so I wouldn’t come at him with that. I would not be looking to embarrass him on the praise him on the only other than the Baltimore Orioles.

Leonard Raskin  42:47

So I think you need to break bread and then you need to say okay, let’s have a real conversation and we’ll talk to each other like men work on that. Listen, your people have I’ll tell you what people call his people. We’ll see what we can get done. I’ll tell you what Michael

Nestor J. Aparicio  42:59

Aragaki PR person told me on Yeah, I saw Michael Eric Getty, one of the other owners right at the bottom right here. Yeah, handed him my my business card. And I said hi, I’m Nestor Aparicio. I do sports radio here. I’ve done sports media for 30 years. I’d love to just say hello. Yep, took my card. He handed it to a woman. And and he turned his back and walked away. And the woman put her hand out and said he said meet Priscilla is what he said. This is what he said. This is Priscilla. This is Priscilla. And Priscilla gave me the the limp handshake took my card and said took the card from him. Right because he didn’t take he didn’t want to touch the card. He gave it to her. And literally literally gave it to her and she said we’ll be in touch. And she turned to move then I’m Jen been in touch and it’s been six weeks. So you know, so that was my approach to the one of the so so you’re saying like, let’s go up and break bread and so don’t don’t think and I have a I get it. I’ve tried to break Cal Ripken What about him? I love Cal Ripken. I’ve offered him a crab cake and that’s that’s a standing offer with him. He had a couple of crab cakes with me. But


Leonard Raskin  44:10

is he involved? Is John

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:13

involved? Yeah. John’s involved with maroon what John does? No, but I’m saying with with Rubenstein. No, no.

Leonard Raskin  44:22

I’m talking about cows and owner. Grant Hills an owner.

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:26



Leonard Raskin  44:26

I mean, I love trying to try to get there. I’m just trying to get there. That’s all never met Grant Hill.

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:31

Calvin. It was a beautiful guy. Right? Yeah. You know,

Leonard Raskin  44:35

their owners. Kurt Schmoke. Kurt Schmoke. Right. Is he part of the team?


Nestor J. Aparicio  44:40

Ah, he was in the box opening day. And

Leonard Raskin  44:43

isn’t he? Isn’t he the President University of Baltimore. My alma

Nestor J. Aparicio  44:47

mater. You

Leonard Raskin  44:48


wouldn’t be baby you ladies. So talk to Kurt. All right. He knows David. All right. I’m just thinking of entrees to to Kevin Bacon, right. Yeah. Separation This,

Nestor J. Aparicio  45:00

I own a radio station I do a show you, you you credential my employee. Tell me why you. You credential him and don’t me, tell me why they might drop. How about Tuesday night, Tuesday night? Luke couldn’t cover the game. They know why he couldn’t cover the game. I know. He was the deacon in his church. Oh, and it’s the monthly meeting at his church on Tuesday night. Yep. Luke is a man of God. And I love Luke. And Luke loves the Lord. And Luke serves the Lord. And Luke is the deacon at his church. And he takes it very, very seriously, especially on Sundays when the ravens are, you know, play, you know what I mean? Like he’s very. So I’m Ultra respectful that he doesn’t have to go to the Oreo game that night, right? Like, you know what I mean? Like, he goes to a game every night, right? So like, my seat sits empty, because they won’t let me in it. I get it. It’s insane. I mean, I don’t even know what else to say. It’s just it doesn’t. And whatever reason they give, it’s because I’m a bad guy. And they’ve been telling people I’m a bad guy for 20 years. And the same people are there. So when people ask me why I don’t have a press credential at this point, the same people are there and I’m getting the same sort of, gee,

Leonard Raskin  46:10

it’s that it’s that state. It’s that bureaucracy. It’s not it’s not the president. It’s the bureaucracy.

Nestor J. Aparicio  46:16

Yeah, I it’s, you know, I said to my wife, because I was moved by this, shall we say, on Tuesday evening? You know, I said to her, it’s just, it’s not surprising at all. It’s disappointing. Yes. You know, I’ve put Oriole gear on, I’ve been back down there spending money pulling my credit card down, giving them fair treatment on the air. I mean, like they’re the best baseball team I’ve ever seen in this city in my lifetime, by far, including any Ripken Palmer Brooks, my cousin, whatever, their this is a great time for them to reach. Everyone. You want to be inclusive and use the flag of inclusivity include everyone, even the people you don’t like even the people that criticize you. Just Lee, and even the people that for 20 years, you’ve been telling everybody in the world that I’m a bad guy. Yeah, I’m not a bad guy. We were bad organization run by a bad guy. Yeah. So and I’ll you know, and that can be on my tombstone, too. But I still love Dutch saying to David Troon, he’s really real Baltimore. That was the most awesome i love you Dutch Thank you. That’s no other message. And I deteriorating disintegrate today. He’s real. He’s real Baltimore. That’s all you need to know. He’s real Baltimore, too. He’s the other side of Northwest I’m southeast exact somewhere in the town and in the beltway, get together on


Leonard Raskin  47:43

the Cambridge know, when the new bridge will meet on the new bridge.

Nestor J. Aparicio  47:48

You know what, that new bridge when it happens is going to be a big day. It’s you know, big day, big day for whomever the governor is whomever like, but it’s going to be a big day. I think for the citizens here. I think it’s a big day to shine for Baltimore. So I do hope that just like you and I’ve gotten together, Republican and Democrat, you know, last that they can all get together and play nice, should be playing. And like find a way to make it work and be nice to each other. Amen. So I’m all for being nice. More kindness gets you farther. And even though we’re not gonna have mechanical crabs, we’re not gonna be nice to the crabs on Friday, or go down to participate to crab derby. Get a patty and scratch. Oh,

Leonard Raskin  48:26

that’s good eatin.

Nestor J. Aparicio  48:26

I am Nestor. We are wn st am 1570, Towson Baltimore and we never stop talking. crabcakes Baltimore positive

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