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With the rush or reluctance to roll out cannabis programs in many states around the country, our chief Cannabis Officer Wendy Bronfein of Curio Wellness discusses how Maryland measures up against other places as her vision and Timonium-based family business moves into Mississippi and Missouri. We always learn when she returns…

SUMMARY KEYWORDSmississippi, product, state, talked, maryland, store, business, years, cannabis, place, move, timonium, feel, minorities, working, week, merch, memphis, industry, womenSPEAKERSNestor J. Aparicio, Wendy Bronfein Nestor J. Aparicio  00:01Welcome home we are W N S T A and 5070 tastic Baltimore and Baltimore positive we’re positively wait for the big football game right? I broke out my baseball gear from curio for our daughter because I couldn’t find my I don’t know I do a lot of yoga and good laundry I had the X Guy Yeah, I can’t find my I’m a blunt person shirt here. But I am looking forward to the purple shirts because I had won a number of years ago when we were on the purple Festivus bandwagon went to Brown find joins us now she will be participating as well many and it’s sort of a little coming out party for our crabcake row and our little a Superbowl week get together. We’re hoping to put some charities together and she joins us from time to time and it’s a new year new for new shirts coming out over foreign daughter I got this move product I’ve been working on next time I’m in there I want to see some purple up and up a curio and foreign daughter. Wendy Bronfein  00:53So if when you walk in the first table to the right has a bunch of merch on it. Usually if they’re in stock, there are the purple Friday shirts. And we’ve had them since 2018 is something we do has like a jersey look with our O on it. And then the we also have a merch shop. So via our website, we partner with route one apparel, and you can get merch on that site as well. Nestor J. Aparicio  01:18We’d like to merch you’re wearing right there with a Maryland flag on it right? Yeah, so you guys fly. Everybody should know that all of the cannabis industry, they’re all state by state. Some have managed to work licenses in different places. I saw places pop up here that were named brands I’d seen in Colorado years before did just bring me up to speed 2024 Because I got on with you. And we talked a little rock and roll and we talked about how this product works. We talked about all sorts of things, sports, in music. But you know, for a new year you said you were Mississippi doing something? And I think at the Mississippi Delta Blues, you know, I think Ole Miss and all that. And you’re like No, no, no, we’re doing business down there. Everything about the cannabis industry as we talked about with your dad last month, Jeanne shock and in your place up at 20. It’s all sort of new. And I said Mississippi, what are you doing down there? What are they doing in Mississippi, we’re not doing here in Maryland. And Wendy Bronfein  02:15so we foreign daughter, which is our dispensary brand. Store in Timonium, we have a store up in Elkton, Maryland, and we created a franchise of that business and our first franchisee launched in Mississippi yesterday. So I just got back from Mississippi yesterday. Such a cool experience her name is so Dario Gray, the store is in Olive Branch Mississippi, it’s a great location, that community is medical only. So very similar to how we were in Maryland, seven years ago. So it’s really exciting to see her take off. Lots of brands down there and in Mississippi starting off as well. And it really was kind of sweet and nice to go back to those to feeling like those early moments here in Maryland, right where, where, you know, the program is smaller, or it you know, it has its constraints being in that state of of newness, you know, where everyone’s trying to get comfortable with the idea that cannabis is an opportunity. But you know, you also have a lot of people who are really excited because it’s right at the beginning, and now they have access and patients can have their needs met. And so it was it was really awesome. To be a part of that. We’re really excited for Derya to get started, we actually created a fund that has over $20 million in it to help fund the startup of a franchise for women, minorities and disabled veterans who are in our program, and Solidaria is one of those candidates. So this is not only the first franchise that we’ve opened, but it’s also the first time the fund is supporting an individual and we have somebody else in New Jersey who’s working on getting their store up and running right now to listen, Nestor J. Aparicio  03:56I don’t know much but I know that there was some disputing and there’s always going to be disputing and we’ve talked about this from the beginning, from the federal government, Nixon straight on that whatever it is, but even when it came online, and you were here, there were things in Annapolis, about minorities about people of color, about women about equal opportunities for people to have a license to be able to sell the product, given the history of the product, which we went through again, I I would send anybody that piece we did last month with you and your dad and I just felt listened to do it in the car on the way up to do a show two weeks ago and I I was listened during the holidays and like it’s a really good segment I learned a lot. But the part where in the new places you’re now the one place that’s actually doing real products and doing real medicine and doing real research and all the parts that you’ve talked about what what happened. And what’s the upshot of this because I know you’re really proud of this. I mean, it’s lead story for you and 2020 fours Hey, we’re doing other good things with everything we said we were going to do in regard to express She was women, you’re a woman. And it was this whole concept was sort of yours that that people would that this wasn’t going to be an old, quite frankly, white money thing that and was going to that it was going to be locked out for everybody that it’s been more inclusive. And you’ve been a part of that over the last couple of years. Yes. Wendy Bronfein  05:15So I mean, cannabis industry has a lot of financial constraints to it, right. So because it’s schedule one, there’s no banking access in a traditional manner, right. So you need private money to start it, which is one of the biggest hurdles that begins the process, then you have something called to 80 II, which is a part of the tax code. That means that creates a heavy, very heavy tax burden on cannabis businesses. And you cannot get funding from any kind of outside traditional methods. So that contributes to the lack of diversity that exists, you Nestor J. Aparicio  05:52can’t just go down to the bank and say, I want to open a place. And I’m going to go into bid that it’s not normal like that if I had a regular regular business and old school business, right? Wendy Bronfein  06:03Correct. Right. Okay. So that’s off the table. So if it’s traditionally hard for women, minorities, and other groups to get capital to start a business, it’s even harder in cannabis, because that’s not even an option in the first place. So when we decided to franchise, the retail store or dispensaries, that’s when we also decided to create this fund so that we could solve sort of two problems, if you will, one, we were expanding the opportunity for people to be in the industry and give them that toolkit, right. It’s not an easy business to run, it has a lot of moving parts that are different than traditional retail because of its schedule on status, and its highly regulated status and the nuance of the regulations changing by state. And then you would and then getting the capital to start it and to sustain it makes it very difficult. So we created this fund that has upwards of 40% diverse individuals invested in the Fund to then invest in women, minority disabled veterans to start the store, and then use the profits of the store to pay off the loan. And that loan has to be they have to be exiting from the loan structure in his earliest three years, or as many as seven. So it’s really just a Kickstarter, and then you’re a traditional franchisee just like a subway or McDonald’s or something like that. So we were really looking to sort of expand the opportunities of independent ownership in our industry and solve this finance problem because it’s not being solved by the federal government. We don’t have safer banking, we haven’t gotten rid of 280 E. So how could we have a private solution that could really change the course of the industry. Man Nestor J. Aparicio  07:36has a lot of directions. I’m going here. She’s our chief cannabis officer. She’s the Chief Brand Officer at curio and foreign data going over to Tony. So I wanted to just jump in on foreign daughter as a concept of a place that I found five, six years ago. Massage, Wavy Gravy, music, selling holistic things and sort of some somewhat GNC ish kind of thoughts about holistic things with a cannabis dispensary in the back for medical with a classroom setting on the side. You know, fast forward six years, you can see what it is now we did the show there last month, you can see that it’s adult use of people can come in now, lots of different people come in and lots of different ways. Still massaged, all the things that were there, when someone comes and sees your place. And maybe you said Starbucks, or you said subway or McDonald’s. I don’t know what the first ones are those I’ve been in the original Starbucks in Seattle, as opposed to what it became and what any sort of the Virgin experience of this is our flagship first store, and we’re going to become a franchise in the franchise business. How will the one in Mississippi look or be different than the vision you have here? Because I, I don’t think you got into this to do two or three. I think this is something that you’re obviously and I’ve been through your facility last year, very serious about. But as far as what the first Starbucks looks like, or McDonald’s or something for what you’re trying to do with, with what it is I’m not even sure that anybody knows it’s such a new industry. But the things you have there, it feels to me like you’re Timonium foreign data that everybody drives by across the model is that that’s a little bit of a showroom for what you feel like the future is going to be in lots of different ways in lots of different places, right? Oh, Wendy Bronfein  09:18absolutely. Yeah. So we can we consider the Timonium store, like like you said, One, it’s that flagship stores. Also it’s like that testing ground, right. Like if there’s a new product we want to carry in the front or service or something. We’re going to test and try everything in Timonium before we export it to any other store. But because cannabis is so nuanced in each state, the store itself becomes molded to the regulations in a given state. So for example, in the Mississippi store, it’s a smaller footprint than what we have in Timonium. They cannot in their regulations have something like our wellness shop that’s in the front right though the holistic pharmacy that we call it so they Can’t they can’t sell sort of this traditional retail area and then have a dispensary or a cannabis dispensary Correct. They’re only kind of dispensary now in their dispensary. They could sell things like you know stuff to store your cannabis in rolling papers and trays and and paraphernalia. But they can’t sell hemp based CBD, right? So like we pride our selves that our stores to have kind of a very curated hemp based CBD collection, where that’s become very pervasive and very questionable what you’re finding in different places. And so we’ve really vetted the CBD lines that we carry, I Nestor J. Aparicio  10:35get patients that have CBD, and I’m like, no, no, you, right? I mean, it’s, it’s, it goes back to what you’re doing your dad of talking about trust, right, and reliability and like, make sure you’re getting like the real thing. You’re not buying something off the streets, right? I mean, literally. Right? Wendy Bronfein  10:51Exactly. So they’re, they’re really, it’s very centrally focused on the cannabis. So it’s much more traditional in the sense of, it looks just like our store and has the same kind of look and feel. But you’re entering you’re checking in as a patient, you’re being called into the dispensary, and you’re being able to buy cannabis or supporting cannabis paraphernalia. And that’s sort of the scope of what you can do in Mississippi. So Nestor J. Aparicio  11:11where else? I mean, other places, I think I knew, you know, you had said to me, there were a couple of states that were sort of coming online. I know other people in your industry. Eugene Monroe, former Raven player told me Massachusetts during different places, he and there’s minority investment and football money, and somebody that is was in a lot of pain. And anytime I talked to him, he talks about what I’ve learned with this product here. But for the ambition of all of this is to rule the world, like, you know, like all that. But I think there’s one step at a time from state by state as places go on that, as you said, there’s a tremendous opportunity in regard to science in regard to medicine, in regard to all sorts of things that eliminate the old taboos that our grandparents had. But state by state, everything’s coming in how I haven’t done the math on this lately, once it came here didn’t matter. Who’s got it where it is, I mean, me and my sister in laws, like in Massachusetts, because she’s in New Hampshire, and Massachusetts was sort of they opened the doors there kind of quickly. I made the mobile wagering because of what I do with the lottery. And it’s been watching both of these sort of parallel universes of how are we going to handle this regulated and really have oversight so that we’re not having bad things being sold. But state by state? What are you seeing in regard to six, seven years ago, when you got into this to where it is now or Mississippi that just pretty red, to me feels like if you’re in Mississippi can almost probably go anywhere? What’s next, I guess, Utah, right. But there’s a handful of places still no, but where’s the curio opportunity for you and your family for a Maryland business. So Wendy Bronfein  12:47obviously, we’re very much focused here in Maryland, where we started and where this where we just transitioned to adult use only, you know, shy of six months ago. We, in addition to that to the Mississippi franchise store opening, yeah, having its grand opening yesterday, we were given our approval to begin production in Missouri earlier this week. And so we’ve been building out a facility there for manufacturing and cultivation and manufacturing was finished. And so we can soon begin production there. And then cultivation will be ready later this year. Nestor J. Aparicio  13:23Here’s what you didn’t demonium. Right. So you’re basically taking what you didn’t ammonium and building that in Missouri someplace. Right? Wendy Bronfein  13:31Exactly. Yeah. In the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri. And, and then we’re also looking at other states. I’ll call it on the eastern side, you know, let’s let’s call it east of, of Michigan, so to speak, right? We don’t really look out to Western opportunities. But states on this side of the country where we can continue to expand and bring our products and services, has Nestor J. Aparicio  13:56it made it easier getting into state B, or C or D or E running a clean show here doing things the right way? Um, I mean, the credit that when you’re applying for license, it’s sort of I think the same thing about the I keep comparing it to sports wagering, but when the big casinos came in, they were so it was so much easier for them to operate because they knew what they were doing, as opposed to somebody saying, I’m going to bootstrap this, which goes back to the beginning of how hard this any of these industries are to break. It sounds like a great idea. I’ll just get into it. And then you realize it’s, I’ve realized, it’s really amazing what you guys have done to be pioneers and all of this. Well, Wendy Bronfein  14:34so Missouri is interesting, because Missouri is is already existing, right? So when we started in Maryland, we were here at the beginning when everyone started so we’re all at the same time growing our businesses in Missouri, that industry has been around for a number of years now. And we’re we’re I think, the only if among a few who are new and entering right now. So this is a different sort of experience for us in entering a market that is already existing and having to introduce ourselves and kind of win over the patients and customers. But we’re very excited to do that. Because I think, to your point, when you talk about move, or the terpene, choose or good night or good day or our GI products, there’s nothing like that in the state. So the fact that we can bring our chews that are so well liked here, and our flour that’s award winning, and our vapes that come from the same great strains, like all that stuff, we can bring there and bring a high quality, where GMP, they’re just like we are here, which is very rare in that day to have that level of production quality and rigor. But then to have all the differentiated products that we do, I think is going to help make a mark pretty quickly in Missouri. Well, Nestor J. Aparicio  15:44yeah, Far be it for me to like be an endorser of anything or social influencer in any way. But you gave me this sort of on the way out the door because I had asked you I’m holding up the move product. I was with you and Gina Gina was talking about being a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame drummer, show me all of her surgeries and scars to her hands on her fingers and talking drumming with your father. And on the way out. I’m like, I need to get out, you know, I need to get some new bomb and I and I had a product that was just quite frankly, out of date. I mean, he smelled a little funky because it had been like two years old. It just it was ready to go. And I’m like, I don’t know that it’s even effective anymore. I need something fresh my back. No joke. Everybody knows my back. I talk about it all the time, like our Breker. But just L three l four. And just having a product that I’ve been like rolling this on for whatever, it’s been three weeks. And my knee I’ve had a little knee issue for knee surgery back in oh six, and I’m having a little swelling and inflammation behind my right knee which is I went to PT two weeks ago, you’re gonna like this one. Kids there. And I said, Yeah, my knees screwed up. I’m walking like John Wayne. And the kids said to me, who’s that? Oh, Lord, and I’m like, I’m walking like John Wayne. I’m in pain. I looked like I got shot in my knee. So I need something. So this move product, he gave me this. And in conjunction with yoga, PT, stretching, you know, all of that. I find it fascinating. you hand me something like this. And I take it out. And I’m like, I really scientifically like I own a radio station. I don’t really know how it works. I don’t have the beans go out your car. I don’t really know how it works. And I think to myself how many times I took an Advil or a buffer. And I don’t really know just take two with my mom told me take this or whatever, rub that on it or you know, spit on it, whatever you do. But this here, explain to me this product, because you were like, this is different, because this is sort of transdermal. When you rub it here, it’s going to be in your bloodstream. Why does this ease me and in the morning, and this is scouts honor, I wake up and I’m a little stiff. Yes, I’m 55 I wake up, I’m a little like, I gotta move a little bit to move a little bit to feel well crack myself out. Because my cat’s been between my legs. And I in the morning, I’m like, gonna be an Advil day gonna be something I need some sort of anti and I’m gonna need something today. And I’ve been banging this on in the morning, and I can feel it a little bit pasty later in the day that it feels like it’s still on me. When I had oils or different things. It’s sort of absorb a little differently that I feel like it’s still influencing me. But I put it on. And it’s I don’t know, it’s today we’re taping it’s 11 in the morning, and I haven’t thought about my back in a five or six hours. And I don’t know what magic is working. But I don’t know what magic is working and I I couldn’t explain it to anybody. I can’t I’m asking you to explain because I can’t explain it. And what is Wendy Bronfein  18:37so that’s, it’s called Move, move. That’s our topical line. There’s there’s two types of products in it topical. And transdermal so topical is on a more of a superficial layer of your skin. So think about like just using like a Vaseline or a Ben gay or something that you just rub in or a lotion. Right. And it’s right, Nestor J. Aparicio  18:56like, you know, we’re like, and a lot of folks are like that. How does the green plant with the leaves that I used to see at the center of the mall? Like, how does that become you know, and I guess that is that’s the magic in the science of the plant, right and cannabinoids and all of these things that you’re trying to educate me some things better than others. Wendy Bronfein  19:12Well, so that formula is a one to one ratio of CBD to THC. THC is typically good for pain and CBD for inflammation. So you know those body aches you’re talking about kind of touch on both areas. And when you have the product that you’re showing, when you take and you open it up, it’s a roller so like you’re applying it kind of like a deodorant. But what you mentioned before about where you apply it, that’s the difference between topical and transdermal. So if you’re using the topical product, you’d say oh my shoulders achy, and you’d rub it right there. Now when you have a transdermal, you can put it you can put it where it hurts but you can also put it where you’re veiny like if you have veins in your wrist, the top of your hand the top of your feet, because it’s going to penetrate deeper and so if it if you put it or you’re veiny it’s moving into your blood system. And then it’s moving through your body to where you need it. Nestor J. Aparicio  20:06My real life part is I stare at the screen all day, whether I’m with you or without you, right? Like, I’m, like, Utusan I stare at the screen, whether I’m doing video, radio, audio podcasts, whatever the kids are calling it these days, people say what do you do? I’m a podcaster. That doesn’t sound like nearly as cool as being a radio guy, which sounds makes me old. But either way, my neck is always in here. And I have found this to be something like out sometimes I’ll just like just get it up on my neck. And it makes my neck that’s really been even more so maybe than my back the last month is that my neck is felt a lot more limber. And I don’t feel as tight from being on screens as so many people are all day. We’re all on screens. Wendy Bronfein  20:49Oh, yeah. I mean, my husband and I are topical junkies, we each have our own, like we’re using I mean, whether we use it post workout pre workout achiness from life. I mean, I I’m the biggest proponent of topicals. Because the other part is, is whether it’s topical or transdermal, there’s no psychoactivity, right. So it gets rid of your discomfort and you have no there’s no high issue too. And it’s just getting rid of pain and inflammation. So I’ve Nestor J. Aparicio  21:15taken an ad that’s got I haven’t I really haven’t I haven’t taken an Advil in a couple of weeks. And I’m not an Advil junkie, I’m uh, you know, one day a week one or two or three, really, if I really need to loosen something up, but I’m trying everything to stay away from any of that. It’s not good for your liver. It’s not good for you. i You know, I know all of that, that this has been a product for a couple of weeks. I’m digging and I think people would dig it. If they go try it. So go give it a try. You can find that over foreign daughter, Wendy brown fine is here. She’s our chief cannabis officer trying to educate us. She’s Chief Brand Officer. And dare I say founder, because I you know, Dad pointed at you like you, you soft sell your whole role in all of this. It’s like get your dad next to you a little bit, right? Yeah. What are you working on? What are you working on this year? Give me Give me a beginning of the year sort of update, because you do come on the show once a week. But you’re always getting pulled out of something that I mean, really serious things and lots of moving parts going on with your with a growing local business. Yeah, Wendy Bronfein  22:14well, so we got, you know, some projects in new states coming on. Here in Maryland, just just the same as we talk about Maryland, the store being the proving ground for different concepts on retail, same thing with our cultivation and manufacturing. So new products that we could come out with will hit here first, right, we’ll test them out here. So some different products that we’re looking at to come out this year, from our manufacturing team, right places where could be kind of new forms of Chews and vapes new products for new audiences. And we have some women’s products that we’re looking at to develop expanding our pre roll offerings. We’ve got some special things coming out next month. I love Valentine’s Day and everything sexy about that. So definitely stuff for the Maryland market, whether you’re a patient or a lifestyle, adult use consumer. Our legislative session is going to kick off very soon. Next week here in Maryland, in the changeover from medical to adult use, the program had a much more restrictive approach to advertising. So we’re going to be strongly advocating to return to the freedoms that we had when we were medical only I think that the awareness of the adult use program is not as prolific as it was assumed to be. And I think that a lot of that is attributed to the fact that there’s a lack of ability to average ties and make people aware of it. So and then on the federal side, really working to write the issues of our industry economically. I don’t think legalization is going to come anytime soon for our industry, but if we can get banking, if we can open capital markets deal with to A to E, that really normalizes our existence. It also really helps facilitate what states are looking to do with social equity programs because that idea of generational wealth creation can really happen if these punitive taxes are removed. If people can use banks if capital markets are open so that they can secure money to start businesses. That just normalizes who we are. So I think that’s really what we need on a federal level. Now more than ever, Nestor J. Aparicio  24:31I say you are a legitimate business treat you like one, right? I mean, that’s literally I have a feeling that the week that we do our little Super Bowl crabcake row week, it’s the week before Valentine’s day you’re gonna come out with charities, you’re involved with living classrooms with the associated you’ll give me a whole list of people and we’re going to be doing this special thing. It’s the first time I’ve really talked about it on the airs with you here. I’ll be talking about it more when I’m like reading let the cat out of the bag fully. But I have a feeling It’s gonna be like the sex education class that week when you’re talking about because you’re giving away your like our products or some things here. So is that a is that a prelude to Valentine’s Day? Is that what we’re gonna be doing? Wendy Bronfein  25:13Oh, for sure. But also, I will, I will give you a teaser right now. So we grow this strain. We grow this train called Golden strawberries since the beginning. And there started to be this chatter around the office. And we were a really small team then when we first grew it from men that it was like Viagra like, and I’m gonna be real TMI here. So Nestor J. Aparicio  25:34I know, you know, we all we’re all grown ups here for the most. So Wendy Bronfein  25:37So yeah, my husband and I were both patient or both patients. And so I never told him about this whole thing with the golden strawberry, but we had it and he had some that was flour, and did what we were gonna do. And I asked him the next day what he thought about it, and he completely validated and in my experience, I agree validated what these rumors were, so we then kind of created the sub brand, Nestor J. Aparicio  26:07like oysters, like back at the bulrush 3040. I Wendy Bronfein  26:12mean, a couple went like so we had so back end, this is early medical. And days, there was an older couple who would come to the dispensary. And they they would come they bought Oh, I don’t know if they bought flour or vape but they bought one of them. They were love frisky little old kapow. They would tell us about why they loved the product comments to get it. I mean, so we ended up kind of we had enough kind of anecdotal feedback from people Nestor J. Aparicio  26:40going strawberry, honey, okay, just shell let’s make sure she know like Wendy Bronfein  26:44for men, it was giving this Viagra like effects. And for women it was giving this like heightened sensitivity and like mentally relaxing effects. So the two together in that kind of combination was very effective. So but no matter how you do it, or who you do it with, I think everybody likes it. And so, you know, we’re gonna have a lot of Oh, is the line Oh, ah, you can figure out why it’s called that. Is you know, going to have it’s a special moment in February. Oh, Nestor J. Aparicio  27:16oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. All right. So it’s a little bit like When Harry Met Sally, I’ll have what she’s having. Yes. Wendy Bronfein  27:23100%. Yeah. Okay, good. Good. Good. Nestor J. Aparicio  27:26All right. Well, I can’t wait to hear more about this. We’re gonna build a whole segment around that. When the broad find is here. She’s our chief cannabis officer, very proud to be opening an Olive Branch, Mississippi, I had to figure out if I’ve ever been Olive Branch Mississippi, I have on the way to Oxford, Mississippi, coming out of Memphis airport. So it is a Memphis suburb on the four o’clock, five o’clock beltway of the southeast side of Memphis, in the great state of Mississippi. And I’ve been to Oxford. I’ll tell you that story. One day I got flown out in the private plane. It was it was a whole thing. I ate barbecue at the place Elvis loved so I did all of that. Mississippi stuff. I even brought my blue suede shoes and boarded the plane. So so we will be Wendy Bronfein  28:07we I have to plug this. So we ate dinner at this restaurant in Memphis. On Wednesday night called the beauty shop. I didn’t get there in time to go to Graceland, which is what I wanted to do. So this was like my next best thing because it was rumored that this restaurant back in the day was a place that Priscilla went to. And it has like all this stuff in there that still feels like a beauty shop from like, you know, I don’t know, like 70 years ago or so. And the food was fantastic. It was super cool. So if you’re in the Memphis area, I recommend the beauty shop. Nestor J. Aparicio  28:41I’ve only been in Memphis one time in my life. It’s when the Ravens played at the Liberty Bowl. The one season the Tennessee Oilers played over there before they when they moved from Houston. It was 1997. One time in one time that there were 5000 people with the game. It was it was one of those but but we ripped it up that week. And it was a casino. Mississippi had Tunica and we went over we watched games we went back we but I’ve never been back Southwest Airlines and fly there and they never played football there again. Memphis played football there. All right. Why did my father’s here Chief Brand Officer of all things, curio wellness, I recommend the move product. I’m on this. So we’ll be talking more about that. And she visits every week or two. We have some fun. Hey, next time you come back right between people in the Super Bowl right here. Everybody’s excited about this. antimonium Correct. Oh, Wendy Bronfein  29:28yeah. I know. We have like a meeting. We have a board meeting today which I have this whole morning when I was getting dressed. I was very conflicted because I had no way to be purple Friday and like in a dressed up way and I was like, am I going to jinx the weekend game because I can’t purple Friday it Nestor J. Aparicio  29:43doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter. No, no. We put it away two weeks from now bring it out and go three times and we need to get through this thing here. So let’s football ahead. Let’s have a conversation. So we call them wise conversation wise conversations around here. Because we try to learn stuff around here and and Have a little bit of fun mix it in with our football, our politics, our charity or community, all that stuff. It’s a new year doing lots of good stuff. We’re gonna have tons and tons of great NFL guest all week long year looking forward to the playoff games, the rise of Joe Flacco and where Patrick mahomes Josh Allen and all the rest of these guys stand in the way of Lamar Jackson, and our next game next weekend and then getting on to the championship game hopefully, and fingers crossed. Luke is all reserved in Las Vegas for Super Bowl week activity. were reserved to do some charity work I’ll be telling you more about in the coming weeks. I am Nestor we are wn st am 1570, Towson Baltimore. We never stop talking Baltimore. Positive

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